Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Sexy Randal 105]

I would just like to state that it has been confirmed that Nurarihyon no Mago will be starting a new arc next week. This means it's basically not going to be cut. Psyren just started a new arc as well so that doesn't seem likely. Eyeshield's presumed last game just started (Honestly, who could they possibly play after the "dream team" of America?). Eyeshield seems like a likely candidate for ending during the next cuts. Either Kuroko or Hoop men is going to have to die off. I kind of doubt Sket will end, since it's been doing good recently. Beezlebub seems too good to be cut. It's the funniest gag series I've read since Gintama. Neuro, To-love, ES21 and Kuroko/Hoop men seem like likely candidates this time around.

 

[Kaiten]

After the pillow fight, Eyeshield deserves to end. Bokke and Eyeshield, I still think they'll be next.

 

[GARusashi]

I still don't see why Bokke would be canceled, Nishi is a fairly successful JUMP manga-ka isn't he? I mean even if it's in the bottom five, I think it'll manage to survive the cuts. Unlike Asklepios where the manga-ka was consistently being canceled.

I guess JUMP could still prove me wrong though.

 

[Kaiten]

Established mangaka will get canceled, and it's not like Nishi is that big a deal. Muhyo met with some success but it wasn't exactly a big hit. Obata and Sawai each have had series canceled quickly in the last two years, both are much more prominent then Nishi. Dropping to the bottom before chapter 10 is the surest path to cancellation. I personally have never seen a series survive that.

 

[xi0]

I still don't see why Bokke would be canceled, Nishi is a fairly successful JUMP manga-ka isn't he? I mean even if it's in the bottom five, I think it'll manage to survive the cuts. Unlike Asklepios where the manga-ka was consistently being canceled.

I guess JUMP could still prove me wrong though.

Nishi is moderately successful. Muhyo lasted for 18 volumes, but it was never a staple series of Jump. It has never had a Drama CD, much less an Anime adaptation, so I guess you could say he's fairly successful.

But being successful doesn't earn you anything. Just look at Takei's Jumbor Barutronica, or Kawashita's Hatsukoi Limited.

 

[GARusashi]

Jumbor got canceled cause it was horrible. And so was Shaman King towards the end. I really don't think Hatsukoi was unsuccessful either, though comparing it to Ichigo, it wasn't.

Sawai got two series canceled didn't he? Shinsentsu Bx7 and Chagecha? That's why I figured Chagecha was Sawai's last real chance. And Ral Grad wasn't really Obata's, he's just the artist. The plot itself wasn't too great. And it still lasted 30 chapters, probably just on Obata's name.

 

[Majin_Reid]

WSJ 2008 31 & 47 Covers

I know this is the 2009 thread, but I didn't know where to post these...

I scanned the covers and spines to Jump 2008's #31 and 47 because 31 didn't have the spine and 47 wasn't scanned at all. The links are the following~





Will someone please add these to the 2008 scan dump. I hope this helps those looking for the files, like I once was... now if only we can get the spine image for 2008's issue 52...


Another thing I've been slowly working on...



Eventually I'll scan all the 1996 Weekly Shonen Jump covers and put them up as larger sizes. If anybody else has old covers you should do the same~!

 

[GARusashi]

oh god Hoop Men's art is terrible, looks like a whole bunch of doodles

 

[Maxy Barnard]

first page no massive smile slight shame XD

to me the scrawly art reminds me of a weird mix of honey & clover and eyeshield 21... either way i like it and hope it's jumped on for some weird reason

mainly because it's so.... different

 

[Kaiten]

i like it and hope it's jumped on for some weird reason

mainly because it's so.... different

Agreed. I like the art. It does remind me of Eyeshield and H &C, positive comparisons in my mind (should mention I scanlate[d] Honey and Clover). It would appear to have more personality then Kuroko. I really hope it lasts, though it ha huge hurdles to overcome. If my aforementioned predictions come true, and there are only two cuts next time, it just may. Being the second basketball series, along with Kuroko's early success, worries me.

 

[Maxy Barnard]

i'm declaring this gag/sports, to the effect that if anyone actually translates this (hey let's not get ahead of myself, there needs to be a thread first, and i'm too lazy to do the whole thumbnail/description stuff and have forgotten the author) i think i'll make it my second ongoing project XD

though of course that's dependant on the existence of the translation, so perhaps i'm far too ahead of myself and just hopeful

 

[Xophien]

The art of hoop Men honestly is a turn-off for me. And while it has a slightly original setting (main guy was dragged to the basketball club because he can speak english and is the only one that can actually communicate with the transfer student from America), that's still the same old "complete beginner" routine. Kuroko's first chapter impressed me and made me laugh 10 times more. I'm honestly not expecting anything from this one >.>

 

[Maxy Barnard]

kuroko's chapter impressed me in different ways really, moreso with the amazing action and nigh on perfectly characterised main characters.

also holy crap almost 100 pages again

also.... since when was i so positive about 80% of the WSJ lineup? (there's about three series that are annoying me right now. that's it. they're bleach, reborn and eyeshield 21 btw)

 

[eni]

The art looked kinda nice to me (also able to improve greatly) and I found the setting also really funny. But I agree with everything Xophien said, so... let's see ^^;

Also, I checked out Kuroko and don't see where the complains about bad art are coming from. It's not the greatest, of course, but a rather typical level for a beginner mangaka which will built up in the future. Many popular artists had a horrible 'newbie style' and this one is even far from being horrible. In fact, the sports scenes are very well done.

 

[Rejuvenation]

Ah, I meant to ask this earlier. Can anyone tell me why Jaguar is deliberately put last and is exempt from the ToC ratings?

 

[Maxy Barnard]

my main complaint is just the eyes and front profile views both being poor. the sports scenes are up there with the best, which for a newbie is unprecedented


and OOH I WANNA FIELD THIS ONE!

it's really popular, 7-9 pages long, kinda a mainstaple of jump since 2000, popular mangaka, sells well, and gives the readers an excuse to read all the way to the end.

 

[eni]

I created a thread for Hoop Men... *goes to resize the color spread for the first post*
http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46740

Please give a comment there too to push it a little for others to see. Most people won't give a new series a try without seeing an active discussion.

 

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

Sorry have to get this off my chest but Hildegarde(?) from Beezlebub and eni are a good match IMO. There I said it!

[eni]Nani?
*goes to check the chapter* .... you better prepare for a forums vacation till DOOMSDAY when this was meant to be a reference to something scary

(The German name is correctly 'Hildegard', btw >.>)[/eni]

Anyway Bleach definitely doesn't deserve to be in the top 3, Kubo too lazy.

 

[Galactic Tomahawk]

lol I'm not quite sure what to think of Hoop Men yet. The art IS pretty bad, but it looks like the author's well aware of that and doing what he can with it. Reminds me of early Neuro art a little.

 

[Maxy Barnard]

ah there's a comparison i didn't think of! i suppose it kidna does. but the sketchy art makes me think of it more as stylised than bad... but then this has stabbed me in the chest with some sorta hoop men arrow of enjoyment