Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Finestela]

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What about Kuroshitsuji? I bet every volume they release in '09 will be a best seller by year end. Hakusensha has no excuse :P Only three titles. Didn't Berserk have a volume out during this period? Or did Japan finally give up on it? 1st Day did pretty well, that's good. Margaret Comics didn't, not happy

lol, Berserk 33 was in October '08, so it wasn't included here

Now that you brought it up about Margaret Comics... I did notice that the only one up there was Mei-chan, and even that wasn't so high. Kind of ironic that Betsu-Margaret series had much better success than Margaret series... (at least for that half of year).

Same goes with Hana to Yume Comics... Ouran is on LaLa while Glass no Kamen is (now) on Betsu-Hana... Nothing on HY got on the top 50.

 

[Kaiten]

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Betsuma didn't do so well either. Two series, only one ongoing. I'm disappointed Natsume didn't make the list. Probably just missed too. Weird that for how many good series are in it HanaYume completely missed. ShoComi and BetsuComi too.

Switching back to Jump, temporarily, could anyone look at this list and still worry about Bakuman? Both volumes in the top 50, ahead of some very famous manga.

 

[Finestela]

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Yep... Bakuman, regardless whether it's just crazy fans obsess with the author duo, or people geniunely like it, is extremly high in sales. Seriously, do you see any newer weekly series with number even close to Bakuman?

I don't think we should even need to worry about the ToC for Bakuman at all any more...

 

[Kaiten]

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Yep... Bakuman, regardless whether it's just crazy fans obsess with the author duo, or people geniunely like it, is extremly high in sales. Seriously, do you see any newer weekly series with number even close to Bakuman?

I don't think we should even need to worry about the ToC for Bakuman at all any more...

Wow! I really can't think of a single weekly series, shonen or seinen, Jump or not, to debut in the last two years that's as popular as Bakuman. A monthly and bi - weekly come to mind, but nothing else.

 

[Josl]

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just something I want to point out:

Bleach36: 927 610
Bleach37: 907 714
Bleach38: 822 238

Sales are decreasing

Naruto45: 1 131 145
Naruto46: 864 708

Sales are devreasing too

One Piece52:1 778 239
One Piece53:1 801 877

Sales are increasing

So there is some kind of justice there

 

[pandaaqueen]

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No. The more recent volumes are logically not as much in circulation as the ones before due to their release date. =D

 

[Imitorar]

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Every time I see a sales ranking for manga, I have two primary feelings. One is exultation that One Piece does so well. I know it shouldn't matter, but I can't help it, especially because of One Piece's always managing to get screwed in America. And the second feeling is "how long can this last?" How long can One Piece go on and still stay on top? Could it actually manage to stay as the most popular manga in Japan until it ends about a decade from now? Or will there be a breaking point? Will sales start to fall simply because they can't rise anymore? And does it honestly matter, since one way or another, Shueisha will let the series keep going until Oda finishes his story? (I mean, they still keep Kochikame around.)

Also, I find Bleach beating Naruto kind of weird. I know that Bleach had one more volume come out during that time than Naruto, but Naruto's old volumes should have been enough to make up for that. The numbers were close, which is what really shocked me. I always thought that Naruto was in a higher league than Bleach, but in a lower league than One Piece. I mean, a new Naruto volume can sell a million copies in a month. A new One Piece volume can sell a million copies in a week, whereas I don't think I've ever seen a new Bleach volume sell a million copies in the first month. I'm shocked that the sales were so even.

 

[nassass]

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So there is some kind of justice there

I think the earlyer volume sell longer period. And in this case One Pice is the crazy. What is in volume 53?

 

[Kaiten]

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just something I want to point out:

Bleach36: 927 610
Bleach37: 907 714
Bleach38: 822 238

Sales are decreasing

Naruto45: 1 131 145
Naruto46: 864 708

Sales are devreasing too

No there not. Not even close actually. Naruto is one of only five manga to average over a million volumes per copy. Volume 44 and 46 of Naruto were not fully covered by this tracking period (11/17/08 - 5/17/09). Volume 46 was released the first week of May, 864,708 was two week totals. As of last week, the most recent Oricon chart, it was ranked 29 with 951,324 copies sold. It will break a million next week. Naruto 44 was released November 4, two weeks before the tracking period for the top 50 began. It sold 812,612 copies in those two weeks.

Bleach's average sales per volume are up this year. Three volumes of Bleach were released between 11/17/2007 and 11/16/2008; volume 33 - 35. Volume 34 was the best seller at 874,153 copies. Volume 33 sold 802,692, 34 sold 761,802.

btw: Bleach is higher in the top ten for total sales then Naruto as only one volume of Naruto was fully covered by the tracking period, while three volumes of Bleach were fully tracked. Naruto still sells more despite Bleach pushing a million copies for two out of three volumes. FMA also outsells Bleach, but only had one volume released during this period. Bloody Monday and Mei - chan made the top ten because recent TV drama pushed sales of back volumes. 20th Century Boys continues to get a boost from the movies, as new fans go back and explore the series, which ended with 24 volumes in 2007.

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

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Wow! I really can't think of a single weekly series, shonen or seinen, Jump or not, to debut in the last two years that's as popular as Bakuman. A monthly and bi - weekly come to mind, but nothing else.

Mind sharing what these are?

 

[Kaiten]

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Mind sharing what these are?

Sorry ^^ I was referring to St. Oniisan from Morning2 (monthly) and 3Gatsu no Lion from Young Animal (bi - weekly). Both outsell Bakuman, but they both debuted in 2007 and have a head start. Those 3 are the only series to debut in 2007 or after on the list. Bakuman is the only series from 2008 to make the top 50. Volume 3, at 200,000 copies after a week, will knock a more established series off when the top 50 for all of 2009 comes out.

 

[Finestela]

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Wow! I really can't think of a single weekly series, shonen or seinen, Jump or not, to debut in the last two years that's as popular as Bakuman. A monthly and bi - weekly come to mind, but nothing else.

Everything I can think of are 3 years old >_<"
Kuroshitsuji, Otomen, Kimitodo (lol... all the more "girly series" )

Kaiten is probably talking about Saint Young Man... (maybe?) Which made the list as well.

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lol, just saw your reply
I can't believe I forgot about March Lion... XDDDDD

 

[Kaiten]

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Everything I can think of are 3 years old >_<"
Kuroshitsuji, Otomen, Kimitodo (lol... all the more "girly series" )

Kaiten is probably talking about Saint Young Man... (maybe?) Which made the list as well.

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lol, just saw your reply
I can't believe I forgot about March Lion... XDDDDD

I'm a Chika fanboy, I couldn't miss it

Kuroshitsuji is just a bit older then my cut off. There are a number of series from 2006 on the list, just nothing from Jump. Same with Kimitodo (a favorite of mine, despite translations stalling!)

 

[Finestela]

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I'm still a bit puzzled, though, by Saint Young Man's success... I mean I like the series (a lot), and followed it almost since it started (the magazine scanner seem to like it as well)... but still, I wouldn't really make it out to be a high sales hit like it is now.

Back to WSJ, Hoop's current situation feels really wierd... Story wise, I just don't see it ending anytime soon. Tank chapter # wise, it's already at the Vol. 2 cutting point. It seems to me that they're going to give it another 10 weeks for Vol. 3.

Are we really seeing some compassion from the editors? Is Hoop being given a chance? O_o"

 

[Kaiten]

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One would think Hoop will end in the next two to three issues. Eyeshield has to be replaced, I can't comprehend the idea of just adding one new series. Besides, mercy or no, why let it limp along when it's been last practically since debuting.

St. Young Men is a great series. When I friends who don't like manga what it's about every one says "I've gotta see that". I imagine the same reaction in Japan. I presume Morning2 is low circulation, I can picture SYM having ten times as many readers.

 

[Koshi_Inaba]

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So, the previous rumor was fake?

 

[Kaiten]

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So, the previous rumor was fake?

What previous rumor?

 

[Koshi_Inaba]

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about Mago being canceled. I agree with Finestela about Hoop Men not ending anytime soon. I don't think it'll get canceled in issue 31, 33 or 34 maybe.

 

[Kaiten]

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Don't worry about Mago getting canceled. It sells to well. The only series currently in danger of ending is Hoop.

 

[Dofla]

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Toriko will be absent next week, Jump #31 (06/29).