Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Negative Syndicate]

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Looks like 2000 era for Shonen Jump is coming to an end. It started with part 6 of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure (Issue 1 of 2000), and ended with Kanata Seven Change (Issue 51 of 2009).

Jump had experieced both rise and downfall in 90s. So, I want to know how everyone thought about overall for Jump in 2000s.

And, I want to know everyone's recommendation for Jump on upcoming 2010s.

 

[ruggia]

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To me, Psyren got the best developed storyline among all mangas in Jump. It is the one that really surprises me every week, even more than old series like Naruto or One Piece, or new series like Bakuman or Beelzebub. It's a perfect shonen manga:

oh, Psyren is a great manga. I love it, but I'm wondering about its current chance of survival to last another year....

Looks like 2000 era for Shonen Jump is coming to an end. It started with part 6 of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure (Issue 1 of 2000), and ended with Kanata Seven Change (Issue 51 of 2009).

Jump had experieced both rise and downfall in 90s. So, I want to know how everyone thought about overall for Jump in 2000s.

And, I want to know everyone's recommendation for Jump on upcoming 2010s.

isn't it a bit too early for "farewell 2000's"? its only November ....

anyway, I'm not too familiar with manga before 1990s, so I don't know too much about the past, but I think 2000s was pretty good.
Death Note was probably the most notable(although I don't like it that much personally), along with others like Bleach.
for romance/ecchi there were Ichigo100% and TLR, and sports, there were Prince of Tennis and ES21.
its interesting how there's lot of success on first half, while the second half was a bit lagging.
I would like to think artwork in 1990s are pretty different from ones in 2000s in style, but its probably just me.
Bakuman, Ichigo 100%, and Double Arts are my favorites among 2000s for me.

 

[v3g374]

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'90s was dominated by Dragonball and Slam Dunk. Now we have One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, and a whole bunch of series which are already ended. 2000 era was good in my opininon. I hope 2010 era will be dominated by One Piece and Toriko.

ruggia: Next issue will be #52 which is the last issue for 2009. (Ok there will be a #53 but thats different.) So era 2000 is pretty much ended by now.

 

[StrangerAtaru]

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To tell the truth, its sort of hard to say that DB was a true 90s series...sure it had it's biggest popularity in that decade but it started in the 80s and was at it's creative peak in that decade. Slam Dunk I can't really argue with but considering how many amazing and important Jump series came out of the 90s (YYH, Ninku, Nube, Kenshin, Houshin Engi, Masaru-kun, I''s, YGO, even OP, HxH and Naruto if you think about it), it wasn't just those two.

As for this ending decade...I think the biggest problem that we're going to have is that essentially it will be known for four series: the "big 3" (OP & Naruto, which both came from the 90s but found themselves in this decade now ending in Jump...and Bleach, which actually is from this decade) and Death Note. Some of what they've provided in this now-ending decade is important but somehow it just is going to obscure what else we got out of the 2000s Jumpwise. From brilliant genre-defying comedies (Jaguar, Bo-bobo, Gintama, Sket Dance) to some new takes on the Jump of lore (Reborn, Black Cat, Buso Renkin, Toriko); from some great sports action (Mr. Full Swing, ES21) to weird new directions in shonen (D.Gray-man, Psyren, Neuro, Muhyo, Bakuman) and even an ecchi here or there (Ichigo 100%, To-Love), it was for the most part a diverse and interesting decade. I just worry for the most part that all people will remember are four series...

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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I found another rumor from 2ch. There was some debate going on (I think), so I want to know how other people think about it.

494 名前： ◆sx79hQuTYc 投稿日： 2009/11/12(木) 22:35:24 ID:NcjuQuI2
ひっそりとパピコ。
・新連載・終了予定。
新連載はハンタが５・６号から10週連続掲載と、7号から村田稲垣のお菓子職人漫画。
2号でいぬまるだし終了、３・４号でめだかボックス終了。
それまでの巻頭・表紙予定。
52号で銀魂表紙トリコ巻頭。53号でぬらりひょんが巻頭＆表紙。
1号がワンピー表紙＆巻頭、2号がナルト表紙黒子巻頭、３・４号が全員集合表紙でナルト巻頭。
5・6号は表紙とセンターカラーがハンタで、巻頭はブリーチ。

Next new series: HxH on Issue 5・6 (going to last 10 chapters), and return of Eyeshield duo on Issue 7 (going to be manga about confectionery)
Series going to be out: Inumaru on Issue 2, and Medaka on Issue 3・4

Issue 52: Gintama (Cover), Toriko (CP) (We already know)
Issue 53: Nurarihyon (Cover, CP)
Issue 1: One Piece (Cover, CP)
Issue 2: Naruto (Cover), Kuroko (CP)
Issue 3・4: Every series on cover, Naruto (CP)
Issue 5・6: HxH (Cover, CP), Bleach (CP)

 

[Galactic Tomahawk]

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Sounds very plausible to me, but as always you need to wait and see how these things play out.

Issue 53 isn't an especially obvious guess (even with Mago's recent popularity), so if they're right on that, I think there's a decent chance at least some of it is true.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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Issue 53 isn't an especially obvious guess (even with Mago's recent popularity), so if they're right on that, I think there's a decent chance at least some of it is true.

If Mago's color is true, it must be meant for result of popular character poll.

 

[Galactic Tomahawk]

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That would sound about right.

On the 5-6 thing, I could see that happening just because this is Togashi we're talking about, and whatever your opinion on him might be Jump has shown they're more than willing to make exceptions for him.

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

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Interesting rumor. It doesn't have Komi returning, which is always the #1 sign of a completely fake rumor, so it's possible. I'd like to see the Eyeshield duo return again.

Having another round of cuts so soon would be rather odd, though.

Christmas double Jump and New Year double jump, cover it's always Every series on cover. so #05-06 too, there is Every series on cover. so...fake ?

It could just mean that Gon is at the front and center of it?

 

[[Cross]]

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Going from Football to sweets? The thought of that makes me cringe and chuckle at the same time. It would be interesting how such a subject would be handled by the two.

 

[Kaiten]

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That post seems false. As Heiji said, doubles are usually group covers with OP getting lead color. Sometimes HxH gets the cover for return, sometime not. I at least expect center color. What really bugs me is this is the first time in two years spoilers for six straight cover/color has come out at once. As a longtime member of the LJ and this thread my bullshit detector is going off. Almost definitely a fake.

 

[Bomber D Rufi]

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It's kind of annoying that for a 'Gintama month' the series didn't really get anything as nice as Reborn did. I mean the movie announcement was awesome and all, but was that really it?

Or were there more announcements that no one is talking about...?

 

[Kaiten]

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I have not heard anything, or seen any posts at ANN like Reborn got. It seems Sorachi skimped on the color too; last week Gintama was not ranked but didn't have color.

 

[Magicoreo]

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Eyeshield 21 duo seems likely but noo way.
I mean, as a fan of their work, I'm really excited to hear about this but it seems unlikely, no?
Still, I'm happy that they're even mentioned.

 

[SSJWill4]

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Christmas double Jump and New Year double jump, cover it's always Every series on cover. so #05-06 too, there is Every series on cover. so...fake ?

Not saying I believe the rumor (covers to many issues to be true imo), but Issue 37/38 of 2004 featured just Naruto on the cover and 3/4 of 2003 was just Eyeshield 21, so it's not out of the realm of possibility.

 

[ruggia]

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Inmaru out too? MB sounds plausible, but I thought Inumaru was a new gag-hit, and had pretty good popularity (think I heard its tanks sold well).
I'm not believing this till its confirmed.

 

[Estranho]

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(think I heard its tanks sold well).

Maybe I'm wrong, but its sales is the worst of the magazine.

 

[Kaiten]

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Sales are not something you rank. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,9,10. That is not how business works. Gag always sells less. It just does. There is less demand. The publishers understand this. Shueisha probably does not even compare one series sales to the next. As long as a series is profitable enough it does not matter if it sells 40,000 copies or 1,000,000. Oricon rankings are something fun for the readers, until we can tell if Shueisha is making money off a series the rankings are easily misleading or taken out of context.

Can everyone please remember the cancellations are just rumors and most likely false ones. Inumaru and Medaka Box have not been canceled, most likely will not be canceled. Putting to much thought into it is probably a waste of every ones time. The bottom five will probably be out in a few hours with confirmation.

 

[Mr. Prince]

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808 ： ◆EizHb38XPU ：2009/11/16(月) 01:18:46 ID:/JgeeBmM0
小ネタ
・52ドベ６　姉、保健、爆、べるぜ、ジャガー、犬
・53巻頭OP特別編＜本編もアリ
　C銀、ぬらり＜重大発表予告

Bottom 6:
Rilienthal
PTF! Jaguar (CP)
Beelzebub
Bakuman
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami
Ane-doki

Preview for #53
Opening Color for OP's special chapter; There's a regular chapter as well!
CP for Gintama and Nurarihyon no Mago [<- IMPORTANT announcement]

 

[ruggia]

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speak of the devil! its here!

ouch. Ane Doki doesn't look good (its actually THE last place.... without Jaguar )
Hokenshitsu is at the bottom, I have a feeling it will stay there.
Rilienthal joins the bottom again....

and regular chap AND chap 0 for OP? wow. Oda is working hard.
Mago announcement.....an anime?

EDIT: and Medaka's not there. thats wow. its first time in like....7 weeks!