Fantasy Wendy VS Mirajane

Arjuna · Jan 8, 2017

Now a battle between Wendy VS Mira

Wendy starts in DF
Mira is too unrestricted

But for argument's sake Macro is banned.So who wins?

XXEliteXXAceXX · Jan 8, 2017

I usually don't say it, but this is a landslide victory...

Wendy Marvell < Mirajane Strauss [Medium Difficulty]

I'm actually giving Wendy the benefit of the doubt in this fight. Medium Difficulty here means DF Wendy can solo the weakest Spriggan. But even that is debatable. The problem is that Wendy loses in virtually every stat. Mirajane's Alegria Soul gives her the upper hand in Attack Power, Magic Power, and even Speed. Not to mention, Defense... Basically, Mirajane is Spriggan level and DF Wendy is Lucy's level. At least that is how I see it...

BluePegasus · Jan 8, 2017

Mirajane needs REAL opponents, not Wendy.

Low diff.

Brandish μ · Jan 8, 2017

Mirajane wins. Idk if she can do it with her basic Satan Soul, but I view Alegria to be an overkill.

Plutogrim · Jan 9, 2017

Wow, people answer are shocking.

DF Wendy has better feats than Mirajane any form.
Base Wendy manage to hurt Irene(the one who created those 2 sword)
Mirajane needed hurt Alegria Soul to deafeat those 2 subornate.
Wendy > Alegria Mirajane.

SirSamuel016 · Jan 10, 2017

C'mon, this one has to go to Wendy. Dragon Force is simply too strong for Mirajane to overcome with something with the Alegria Satan Soul that burns through her magic fast. So given that, I'd say Wendy mid-high diff.

Brandish μ · Jan 10, 2017

SirSamuel016 said:
C'mon, this one has to go to Wendy. Dragon Force is simply too strong for Mirajane to overcome with something with the Alegria Satan Soul that burns through her magic fast. So given that, I'd say Wendy mid-high diff.

Could Wendy beat Jellal due to Dragon Force coz Dragon Force? If Alegria burns through MP quickly then logically it's powerful, in the same way Nakagami starlight is powerful. Wendy's still getting punked by DiMaria using Dragon Force. Does this mean God Soul >> Dragon Force? There is the strength of the actual wizard to consider.

Kiki · Jan 10, 2017

Plutogrim said:
Base Wendy

It's not Base Wendy. It's DF Wendy.

Plutogrim said:
manage to hurt Irene

Irene wasn't able to move, because she was blocked by Erza.

Plus, Erza was there. Wendy's not alone.

SirSamuel016 · Jan 10, 2017

Brandish said:
Could Wendy beat Jellal due to Dragon Force coz Dragon Force? If Alegria burns through MP quickly then logically it's powerful, in the same way Nakagami starlight is powerful. Wendy's still getting punked by DiMaria using Dragon Force. Does this mean God Soul >> Dragon Force? There is the strength of the actual wizard to consider.

I'm considering their strength and what their abilities do for them, and I don't think Mira can beat Wendy when she uses Dragon Force. Mira is definitely not on the same playing field as Jellal (or any Spriggan if I'm being honest with my take on it), she struggled with two enchanted swords and is struggling with Jacob currently in the manga. Going off of the feats we have, I'd say Wendy can win.

Miralicious akuma · Jan 10, 2017

Oh how u guys underrate Mira. Mira takes this med-high difficulty. The only reason Wendy was able to hurt Irene was because Irene had a Disadvantage over ds magic. And argument against Jacob is totally invalid cuz Mira isn't even using her base Satan soul (plus remember that she is still fighting even though she got shot by August + tortured by Irene) and about the two swords, why can't u guys just understand that they might not be powerful when fought alone but together with their consecutive moves and teamwork they do become a tough opponent and the fact that Mira was able to overkill those two makes Mira > Wendy itself. ( can't really see Wendy being able to overkill those 2)

Libarian · Jan 10, 2017

This actually somewhat hard for me to call. The key stats are pretty much split Mira has better attack, at very least better attack range, but Wendy's are potint enough to make a mark with each while costing FAR less. I would not give MP to Mira she was freaked by Irene's power after her fight Erza and Wendy are not phased and Irene said that Wendy's power is "slightly weaker" than her own and and it wouldn't be a problem in a battle with Erza, Alegria seems to externalize Mira's MP where as DF internalizes Wendy's based on the fights and the tatarus chapters . Wendy also was not at full when Irene said that so some of the ego and optimism is mitigated by the fact that bring some one back from the brink of death has to be taxing, but Irene transfusing herself into Wendy could have restored Wendy to full but that remains to be seen. Defense I honestly cannot think of that many defensive feats for Mira at all so considering what Wendy has blocked and taken in base this goes to her. Speed is hard to call Irene not being to dodge because she is fighting Erza is misleading Irene was full control of that fight and even reacts to Erza's comment before Wendy charges, Wendy's distance seems greater than Mira and the sword sisters were still stuned by Mira's power so reaction time for them is shot. Therefore Wendy should have speed. Therefore it is basically a question if Wendy can endure until Mira runs out MP which I think that she could. So Wendy wins with extreme difficulty. However if she can cast her buffs on herself in DF since they seem boosted themselves base on Erza's performence then it would be mid-high at best.

Seven777 · Jan 10, 2017

How does fighting Jacob prove she's weak? If anything it proves she's incredibly strong, she is fighting a member of the spriggan 12 in human form, and doing much better than Wendy was doing against Dimaria in Dragon Force.

Mira takes this mid diff.

Boomburst · Jan 10, 2017

Seven777 said:
How does fighting Jacob prove she's weak? If anything it proves she's incredibly strong, she is fighting a member of the spriggan 12 in human form, and doing much better than Wendy was doing against Dimaria in Dragon Force.

Mira takes this mid diff.

To be fair, she's fighting hand to hand against Jacob who's not only not using any magic but who's also literally fighting with his eyes closed. Not very impressive.

I do agree that Mira takes this mid-diff though.

Libarian · Jan 10, 2017

Miralicious akuma said:
Oh how u guys underrate Mira. Mira takes this med-high difficulty. The only reason Wendy was able to hurt Irene was because Irene had a Disadvantage over ds magic. And argument against Jacob is totally invalid cuz Mira isn't even using her base Satan soul (plus remember that she is still fighting even though she got shot by August + tortured by Irene) and about the two swords, why can't u guys just understand that they might not be powerful when fought alone but together with their consecutive moves and teamwork they do become a tough opponent and the fact that Mira was able to overkill those two makes Mira > Wendy itself. ( can't really see Wendy being able to overkill those 2)

The Jacob fight is trash even if she is losing aginst one of the weakest springan with his eyes closed (this is not meant as a shot just stating the facts) Mira is pretty much tapped out on MP was abused (tortured seems to me at lest to imply a longer length of time it was three or four attacks) Brandish shrunk that wound to the point that it was nothing. Wendy is still fighting on her wounded leg. Wendy definitely had help from slayer's advantage but it can only go so far the level's have to be close in order for it to be effective Tenrou and GMG it was completely ineffective when the opponent was actually prepared for it so it can not be the only reason. The difference in strength between Sprigan and subordinate is massive every time we see one introduce they are effortlessly taken out by the cast with Marin being the only other acceptation because of his magic. Wendy has no Nukes but plenty of staying power unlike Mira who is all Nukes and no staying power, however what difference does that really make if Mira had nerf herself for the rest of the war to do it?

I have a simple question. Dimaria has been used so often to belittle both her and wendy have the idea that from her feak out of the sky sisters + ultear and pratial turned Natsu moving in her time that Dimaria does not show god soul and has springan level stats before the takeover? One of the most promising wizards in the manga did have to use everything she would ever have to beat her it seems logical.

Demon Hunter · Jan 10, 2017

well, Jacob is already a trash to begin with.

seriously, only Transport is the best thing he has.

beating two swords >>>> beating Trashob and Neintrash.

anyway, Mirajane low diff.

~~Wendy Black no diff.~~

Seven777 · Jan 10, 2017

Daniel9dsi said:
To be fair, she's fighting hand to hand against Jacob who's not only not using any magic but who's also literally fighting with his eyes closed. Not very impressive.

I do agree that Mira takes this mid-diff though.

Yeah but she's doing it in human form, has Mira ever done anything good outside of her takeovers? Even base Satan Soul is a colossal improvement over human Mira, and Sitri is leagues above that and Alegria is leagues above that, Mira fighting in human form is like her fighting at 5% of her power.
Imo Mira not using takeovers and still fighting a guy who was decimating casual Natsu and Lucy at the same time is far more impressive than getting low diffed by Dimaria.

Libarian · Jan 10, 2017

Seven777 said:
Yeah but she's doing it in human form, has Mira ever done anything good outside of her takeovers? Even base Satan Soul is a colossal improvement over human Mira, and Sitri is leagues above that and Alegria is leagues above that, Mira fighting in human form is like her fighting at 5% of her power.
Imo Mira not using takeovers and still fighting a guy who was decimating casual Natsu and Lucy at the same time is far more impressive than getting low diffed by Dimaria.

Man Dimaria gets off pannaled by one of the strongest beings and MC in the story and everyone thinks she is trash Jacob was not decimating Natsu, Natsu trying to not burn down the guild and could not see because of stealth as soon as they got out side it was a one shot. Fighting a close range fighter with his eyes closed in a fist fight and still struggling is impressive? What's impressive is Jacob's stupidity he specializes in making things disappear and can't think to just make Mira's breast vanish and hand her her behind

Seven777 · Jan 10, 2017

Libarian said:
Man Dimaria gets off pannaled by one of the strongest beings and MC in the story and everyone thinks she is trash Jacob was not decimating Natsu, Natsu trying to not burn down the guild and could not see because of stealth as soon as they got out side it was a one shot. Fighting a close range fighter with his eyes closed in a fist fight and still struggling is impressive? What's impressive is Jacob's stupidity he specializes in making things disappear and can't think to just make Mira's breast vanish and hand her her behind

Dont worry, i already thought Jacob was stronger than Dimaria(without Age Seal of course) long before END trashed her.
I already said Casual Natsu, i know he was holding back.
I didnt say fighting Mira with his eyes closed made Jacob look impressive.
Low diffing Lucy alone is already a feat on par with what Dimaria has got without Age Seal, add in Natsu(who was holding back) and it is significantly more impressive than what Dimaria had done. Lucy alone is more or less Wendy tier, and Casual Natsu is well above, so Casual Natsu + Lucy >> Wendy.

Libarian · Jan 10, 2017

Seven777 said:
Dont worry, i already thought Jacob was stronger than Dimaria(without Age Seal of course) long before END trashed her.
I already said Casual Natsu, i know he was holding back.
I didnt say fighting Mira with his eyes closed made Jacob look impressive.
Low diffing Lucy alone is already a feat on par with what Dimaria has got without Age Seal, add in Natsu(who was holding back) and it is significantly more impressive than what Dimaria had done. Lucy alone is more or less Wendy tier, and Casual Natsu is well above, so Casual Natsu + Lucy >> Wendy.

I never said that you said anything like that. Nothing could make Jacob look impressive at this point. I just don't see how it help Mira look better. Dimaria basically has nothing without age seal she abuses it to the point that she no longer considers it possible to actually stand against so she is highly open to sneak attacks and blitz given her shock and range her reaction time is actually quite good. Her power however enough to shake Kagura without god soul, the entire guild is generally unphased by Jacob's power. Sorry but Lucy <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Wendy the only fight Lucy has had this arc has been against someone putting on a show and the fight exhausted her, seriously count the things wendy has taken and the things she has done inbetween fights she blocked god soul's full power attack and the same thing Irene use against acologia even if you claim she had elemental advantage she still blocked it from hitting Erza, slayers advantage counts for nothing there. What did Lucy do, get in to sneak attacks against trash wait until the Irene fight is over then Wendy<Mira mid at best.

kira · Jan 10, 2017

Mira takes this Mid-High diff. IMO, she's still more or less on Erza's level. so unless you think Wendy can take on Erza now, Mira should definitely win this.

I'd argue she should be stronger now considering she should have gotten a massive power-up from the tartaros demons.

but Hiro is just bad at handling power levels :nah