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Even before the Great Age of Piracy, WB was considered the WSM. Very interesting. Was this after Rodgers illness began?
Discuss.
Discuss.
Interesting takewell, kaidou is also considered as world strongest creature.
Seemed like wsm and wsc are just hype tools though. I think pirate king will always still be strongest , bar possibility of Im being ultimate villain.
one piece story is just messed up with power inconsistency. Like how could mihawk couldnt finish off vista under a minute, when he was supposed to have a draw against a yonkou shanks? This is why i said wsc and wsm are just hype for them.Interesting take
But up until this new data we were lead to believe Garp, WB, and Rodger were the highest tier of opponent.
If WB was the WSM back then, they shouldn't have been considered equal.
I like you believe WSS and WSM and WSC are hype tools mor than 100% fact.
It was just an interesting thing to note and can lead to fun debates
Data confirms Vista had the skills to compete with Mihawk.one piece story is just messed up with power inconsistency. Like how could mihawk couldnt finish off vista under a minute, when he was supposed to have a draw against a yonkou shanks? This is why i said wsc and wsm are just hype for them.
so vista is yonkou-tier?Data confirms Vista had the skills to compete with Mihawk.
I just opened another thread about it.
It more closely confirms WSS is skill based and not strength based.
What is this based on? A new databook came out or what?Data confirms Vista had the skills to compete with Mihawk.
I just opened another thread about it.
It more closely confirms WSS is skill based and not strength based.

Vivre Card databook. I've been keeping up to date with it but noone seems to be posting about it on this forum.What is this based on? A new databook came out or what?![]()
Swordsmanship is a skill not a strength tierso vista is yonkou-tier?
like i said, oda made a mistake on power scale of some characters
What the heck are you talking about? lolWhy are you guys arguing about another thread in this thread??
According to one character from the Ace novel: Whitebeard is called the "strongest pirate" because of "the way he lived". Kaido is the "strongest creature" because he can defeat anyone on a 1-on-1 fight. Big Mom has the "strongest family". And he doesn't know much about Shanks.I think Kaido, BM and WB were always physically stronger than Roger.
Its even possible that Kaido and Big Mom are stronger than WB. WB being WSM doesnt collide with BM being WSW and with Kaido being WSC.
I think WB was also called WSP and that is also not an issue since it doesnt imply a 1vs1, which we know that Kaido should be bet on, but the entire might of his fleet and WB was ahead in that aspect for sure.
Not saying that Roger was weak but he more likely was like Luffy, outsmarting them and having luck on his side, which we know for a fact, at least in battle of Edd war.
The Pirate King isn't the strongest though, as far as I recall there has been no mention of Roger beating Big Mom and Kaidou for the Poneglyphs, or that he even fought them at all, just that he got away.well, kaidou is also considered as world strongest creature.
Seemed like wsm and wsc are just hype tools though. I think pirate king will always still be strongest , bar possibility of Im being ultimate villain.