Seinen xxxHolic by CLAMP

[ravensley]

Re: xxxHOLIC spoilers thread

Something has been bothering me a bit.. its Watanuki's wish cause originally he says that he doesnt want the spirits and what not following him around clickie here to see so that means when Yuuko says she'll grant his wish the spirits wont stalk him but he'll still be able to see them right? Unless his wish was to not see them anymore..

 

[idlemind009]

Re: xxxHolic 185 Discussion/186 Prediction Thread

Yuko probably knew Watanuki would make that choice. Numerous times Yuko-san and the others had to save him because he makes choices with his heart. Hopefully the Egg given to Doumeki can save Watanuki. An eternity in that shop...granting wishes, whilst his is never to be fulfilled.

Watanuki has learned that the yokai and other demons he has encountered are in need of just as much help and love as he himself was. Is staying in that place the best way for him to serve them ?

 

[ZaCloud]

Re: xxxHOLIC spoilers thread

Something has been bothering me a bit.. its Watanuki's wish cause originally he says that he doesnt want the spirits and what not following him around clickie here to see so that means when Yuuko says she'll grant his wish the spirits wont stalk him but he'll still be able to see them right? Unless his wish was to not see them anymore..

It was mentioned a few chapters ago by us when Yuuko said that. It's like, I thought that with Doumeki's company, his wish was already being granted, since Doumeki kept the spirits away. So I thought it was a perfectly good arrangement. Watanuki could still talk to the youkai, help them out if they needed it, and interact with the adorable Zashiki-Warashi, but would be kept far safer and no longer constantly mauled.

So I'm really puzzled about his wish being permanently "granted", and as I said before I really really hope that he can still interact with them after all... cuz they added so much depth to his life and he grew to really understand them...

Yuko probably knew Watanuki would make that choice. Numerous times Yuko-san and the others had to save him because he makes choices with his heart.

Indeed, that's the kind of person he is. I was fine with his dealing with the food-lady, how he did what is characteristic of himself... helping her with his heart. He was able to accomplish the mission, and yet still able to be himself. I was proud of him, and figured he could grant wishes that way.

What good was that "food battle" that he won in that regard, though, if he's now gonna try being Yuuko? It won't be the same. It's like it cancels the growing we've watched him do. He'd found a perfect balance between letting the client fix themselves, and giving them enough caring constant to give them the opportunity they needed. I liked it. I don't want to see that forsaken now...

While he does give freely of himself, he also learned valuable lessons along the way: Not to sacrifice TOO much, so he doesn't hurt those who care about him was one of them. It was a repeated theme. He learned that he has to value himself as an individual, not just value others over himself. Otherwise it leans toward selfish despite seeming self-less.

That's why I'm puzzled over his behavior now; it's like he's forgetting those lessons, that people care about Watanuki as a human being, and want to see him be himself. Like with Doumeki and the spider-curse, and when he nearly killed himself... Surely he wouldn't throw out those valuable lessons!

Doumeki needs to remind him of that! He doesn't even need the egg for that!

 

[Lady Sakura-chan]

Re: xxxHolic 185 Discussion/186 Prediction Thread

I can`t belive that I missed two chapters of Holic! Where in the world have I been? So my nightmare came true after all. Watanuki is the new owner of the shop. Why does Domeki always have to interfer with Watanukis decisions? Leave him alone for gods sake! Trow that bloody damn egg away! Ha, it was fun to watch Watanuki smoke, poor child, he ain`t used to tobac.

 

[DontWakeMeUp]

Re: xxxHolic 185 Discussion/186 Prediction Thread

I really don't agree with Doumeki leaving Watanuki alone. .__.
Watanuki just lost someone very special to him, and it's situations such as this that many people wind up doing very irrational things. It's good that Doumeki's there so that he could try to keep some sense in him.

 

[Snowolf]

Re: xxxHolic 185 Discussion/186 Prediction Thread

I think in the end, Doumeki WILL interfere. Watanuki may not be making the best choice, but he is making one, and as Mokone said, a choice allows room for an individual to grow. So Watanuki may grow in an aspect we'd all not like to see, but he will still probably learn some valuable things along the way. It all really revolves around that egg....


I liked him without the glasses though. I thought it was a sign that Watanuki had matured, and now he's got the glasses back on...perhaps it means something?

 

[finalnight]

Re: xxxHolic 185 Discussion/186 Prediction Thread

Been calling Watanuki as FWR for a while now, even more convinced after this chapter and the TRC chapter.

 

[kurofaikitty]

Re: xxxHolic 185 Discussion/186 Prediction Thread

hi all! sorry to come in so late. i really don't think wata-cahn will turn into FWR, they're jsut to different. and FWR knew Clwo, so . . .
anywho, on the matters of dah egg of most awsumness. i beleive it to be either one of two things.
1.) a way to kill, since nothing will be "born" from it. i think someone mentioned this above.
2.) another way into imortailtyishness, like Watanuki already has. if he's waiting for Yuuko's reincarnation, he'll be waiting a looonnng time. and yeah, reincarnation *points finger at WISH* that's a CLAMP thing to do after all! wahahaha!
aywhoo . . . i beleive that Doumeki will use the egg on himself, because he said he wouldn't use it on Watanuki. do you really think that airhead has enough power all by himself to run that shop? need i remind everyone, that all the wishes he helped grant, Doumeki was right there with him? to put it simply, Hitsuzen, peoples. they still share and eye, and blood. they're already bound together, Doumeki can't exactly just get up and leave. and plus, even he said, "Anyhow, our future is together" yeah yeah, desitnation, future, same word in japanese!
plusss . . . i really just wanna see them run the rshop together and wear some fanciful robes like Yuuko did. hahahaha.

 

[jessyt1992]

Re: xxxHolic 185 Discussion/186 Prediction Thread

i wonder what doumeki is going to do
with the egg since he's not going to
use it on watunaki..

 

[ravensley]

Re: xxxHolic 185 Discussion/186 Prediction Thread

The way I understand it, Watanuki isnt Clow Reed or Fei Wong Reed.. he is a result of the original Sayoran making the wish to stop sakura's time he is the filling of the gap caused by the wish... but I may be wrong

 

[DontWakeMeUp]

Re: xxxHolic 185 Discussion/186 Prediction Thread

Well, what others are bringing up is that Watanuki may be another self of Clow or FWR. If anything, however, he has to have some other connection with Clow (yes, he's an ancestor, but maybe there's something else...?). I forgot what chapter it was, but one of the splash pages showed Watanuki wearing Clow's cape... and the detail that he bears a resemblance to Clow was mentioned a few times as well.

If anyone is going to be FWR, it'll be Doumeki. :|
Haha, naahhh. I just still find that blog about the similiarities between the two very amusing. Does anyone have a link to the site?

 

[NymphStealer]

Re: xxxHolic 185 Discussion/186 Prediction Thread

If anyone is going to be FWR, it'll be Doumeki. :|
Haha, naahhh. I just still find that blog about the similiarities between the two very amusing. Does anyone have a link to the site?

link was in the old discussion thread on page 34 of it ... http://ceitean.livejournal.com/20133.html#cutid1
and it also has the image of the TRC chappy where wata looked like clow on it

 

[ravensley]

Re: xxxHolic 185 Discussion/186 Prediction Thread

Unless Doumeki is a descendant of clow reed he cant be fei wong reed but then again his lineage isnt expounded on so it might be that he is.. it is CLAMP afterall...

 

[ZaCloud]

Re: xxxHolic 185 Discussion/186 Prediction Thread

Also, his grandfather Haruka, despite being dead, still exists and reaches Watanuki in the dream world. Seems a highly-powerful ability. And he takes his son's form more or less, rather than showing his more aged true face. Makes one wonder if he's hiding it for some reason...

 

[ravensley]

Re: xxxHolic 185 Discussion/186 Prediction Thread

I dont know that Watanuki has actually seen Fei Wong Reed so even if it is that Doumeki's grandfather is FWR or looks like him Watanuki wouldnt know.. and maybe he takes the form of his grandson cause said grandson is someone watanuki knows?

 

[bookology]

Re: xxxHolic 185 Discussion/186 Prediction Thread

Does anyone know if "FWR" has eyes with different colours like Watanuki? I don´t like tsubasa that´s why I only read XXXHolic and I don´t know about what happens there :P. Also, if Watanuki was an accident does that mean he is different from a coincidence? Because Yuuko was always saying that there is no such thing.

 

[ZaCloud]

Re: xxxHolic 185 Discussion/186 Prediction Thread

Bookology, good point about the "coincidence". It does bear thinking about... Though Watanuki is an unforeseen by-product of a conscious decision made by paying a price, and hitsuzen is changeable unlike the harsh word "destiny". It's made up of everyone else's choices and actions, not just "fate" of any sort.

As for FWR's eyes... it's hard to tell cuz he has beady pupils (like Doumeki... ) and because one of the eyes is hidden behind a monocle (the same one that Doumeki donated half of to Watanuki... )

Oh I hope that crack-brained theory isn't true! It probably isn't but some of the connections bother meeee!

 

[DontWakeMeUp]

Re: xxxHolic 185 Discussion/186 Prediction Thread

Haha. I doubt that it's true, it's just very amusing to read. =| Although some of the points that the author makes really make you think...

 

[Tutu]

Re: xxxHolic 185 Discussion/186 Prediction Thread

wow...now we have many problems...what about the egg?
There's something bothering me too, what about black mokona earing?is it going to be used?For xxxHolic or for Tsubasa?
And there was a boy, i think not many remember him, but he appeared at Watanuki dream, who is he?Is just a random personage or i just missed it?
And, i just saw in another forum, and remembered that it was true, that Watanuki paid his memories as a price for some wish, i don't remember wich one...So will he ever have his memories back?Or..what is his true wish?
So many questions, don't know anymore XDDD

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I think even the Clamp girls don´t know very well what to do.

i have to agree, from Clamp mangas i've read until now, this and trc are the most confusing plots i've ever read

 

[Pointlessness413]

Re: xxxHolic 185 Discussion/186 Prediction Thread

I don't think it would make sense for Wata to be FWR. When FWR talks to Yuuko about Wata:
http://www.onemanga.com/Tsubasa_Reservoir_Chronicles/202/09/

FWR speculates that the child is just as Clow anticipated. I can't imagine that FWR somehow knew Clow if he were Watanuki, not to mention that would lead to this being a VERY confusing conversation that would be completely illogical from FWR's point of view.