Fantasy Zeref VS August

[grey matter]

so you are saying that Cana is stronger than Jura/Laxus without FG?

I literally said that Jura is probably 10x Cana lol.

What I am saying is that Fairy Glitter has high base damage. And Cana wasn't tired at all after using FG in GMG, that combined with Makarov's doubts suggest that Mavis played a role here.
When she used FG in Alverez, she was getting tired.

 

[WoWfan]

I literally said that Jura is probably 10x Cana lol.

What I am saying is that Fairy Glitter has high base damage. And Cana wasn't tired at all after using FG in GMG, that combined with Makarov's doubts suggest that Mavis played a role here.
When she used FG in Alverez, she was getting tired.

I said without FG, So then by definition, Cana's FG would be 10x weaker than Jura's strongest spell. She only got tired after repeated use, that does not mean Mavis played a role beyond just lending it to her, she was still tired after using FG during GMG, she literally stated that Cana already has exceptional magic which means she had no need to aid her. even after using it multiple times, she still fight at her relative strength

 

[sharkai]

But the spell’s MP massively exceeds that of jura, it’s magic power comes directly from an extern source. usually, hax has a limit, but only if it is stated as such. But Acnologia would be resistant to that

Three fairy spells arent normal. I think you shouldnt use them to predict anything
Cana scored higher than jura because of it, we dont know why. But if laxus had also used the same spell, he would have easily outperformed cana. No idea what is the mp source.
But i do know august >>>>>> cana
Fairy glitter might reduce the distance between them, but there is no way to tell that cana surpassed august using that spell.
That is why its not a good idea to use it

 

[WoWfan]

Three fairy spells arent normal. I think you shouldnt use them to predict anything
Cana scored higher than jura because of it, we dont know why. But if laxus had also used the same spell, he would have easily outperformed cana. No idea what is the mp source.
But i do know august >>>>>> cana
Fairy glitter might reduce the distance between them, but there is no way to tell that cana surpassed august using that spell.
That is why its not a good idea to use it

It is stated to be the energy from the light of the Sun, Moon and Stars, that is where it comes from, Not saying that is does, but FG is one of the legendary spells that would put it above most other spells, but they are not invincible. and their energy let alone the Sun's energy output puts it above most magic spells

 

[grey matter]

I said without FG, So then by definition, Cana's FG would be 10x weaker than Jura's strongest spell

Not necessarily.

Assume that Fairy Glitter has a multiplier 20x Jura's strongest spell. It would result in showing higher than Jura's attack power, even if Jura is 10x stronger than Cana

She only got tired after repeated use, that does not mean Mavis played a role beyond just lending it to her, she was still tired after using FG during GMG, she literally stated that Cana already has exceptional magic which means she had no need to aid her. even after using it multiple times, she still fight at her relative strength

It is stated to be the energy from the light of the Sun, Moon and Stars, that is where it comes from, Not saying that is does, but FG is one of the legendary spells that would put it above most other spells, but they are not invincible. and their energy let alone the Sun's energy output puts it above most magic spells

Makarov's law didn't defeat any Spriggans.
What makes you think Cana's Fairy Glitter would even scratch August, who's >> normal Spriggans?

Jacob casually cracked Mavis' crystal, while Cana needed several FG to break it, leaving her incredibly tired.
FG does not even come close to an average Spriggan's attack power

If FG is used by a GOI or average Spriggan, THEN I can certainly see it being strong enough to cause significant damage to August. But by fodder like Cana? Naah.

 

[WoWfan]

Fairy Glitter was not stated to be a multiplier, just using energy from a different place.

Fairy Law is different from FG which it is mostly hax, while FG is power. Well Jacob used hax, while he managed to wound her body, FG just broke her free.

 

[Axiomus]

Just because Fairy Glitter draws power from the star, moon, and sun or whatever....It doesn't change the fact that it's an unimpressive attack. Here's the thing about Fairy Glitter too. It lost to Bluenote. While Cana improved since Tenrou, the power difference between August and Cana during Alvarez is far larger than the power difference between Bluenote and Cana was on Tenrou.

That being said, it's still infinitely better than Jacob's attack (most things are). Fairy Glitter destroyed Mavis' ghost form and completely shattered the crystal. It's just not better than Igneel-powered Natsu's attack, which @Fyron has convinced me that Zeref can tank.

It is stated to be the energy from the light of the Sun, Moon and Stars, that is where it comes from, Not saying that is does, but FG is one of the legendary spells that would put it above most other spells, but they are not invincible. and their energy let alone the Sun's energy output puts it above most magic spells

Are you arguing that Fairy Glitter is sun level?

 

[WoWfan]

Just because Fairy Glitter draws power from the star, moon, and sun or whatever....It doesn't change the fact that it's an unimpressive attack. Here's the thing about Fairy Glitter too. It lost to Bluenote. While Cana improved since Tenrou, the power difference between August and Cana during Alvarez is far larger than the power difference between Bluenote and Cana was on Tenrou.

That being said, it's still infinitely better than Jacob's attack (most things are). Fairy Glitter destroyed Mavis' ghost form and completely shattered the crystal. It's just not better than Igneel-powered Natsu's attack, which @Fyron has convinced me that Zeref can tank.




Are you arguing that Fairy Glitter is sun level?

I am going to assume you do not know anything about science, good to know

And it does because it shows that size does not matter, only the qualities it has, with Bluenote, the spell was incomplete, not that there really is much of a difference in tier with FG and August at the time. The difference with Jacob is that he actually wounded her body while FG did not.

 

[Axiomus]

Stay on topic.

I asked you a question. Are you arguing that Fairy Glitter is Star-level?

 

[WoWfan]

And I gave you an answer as to you not knowing how much energy does the Sun output

 

[Axiomus]

And I gave you an answer as to you not knowing how much energy does the Sun output

I do know how much energy the sun outputs, which is why I know Fairy Glitter doesn't output nearly as much energy as the sun. The fact that the planet is still there is proof of that. Fairy Glitter is not star level. This is not even debatable. Bluenote easily defeated Fairy Glitter when Cana used it on Tenrou. Are you arguing that Bluenote is above star level? Urano Metria also takes power from the stars. Is this also star level now? So is Angel who tanked Urano Metria above star level in durability?. We've gone above multi-continental and planetary now. Star level wank has begun.

Jacob's attack causing a wound on Mavis' body is pretty insignificant compared to her entire thought projection getting vaporized and the crystal shattering.

 

[WoWfan]

Again, the fact you said Sun level means you do not know how much energy that is, even moon drip uses all the moonlight energy and it is a similar radius as FG, and they never said anything about it being limited amount of energy either, Like I said, FG was incomplete when Bluenote defeated it, you are very selective Urano Metria is more light balls hammering to their opponents. Youa re really confusing things that should not be, get over it.

The difference is there, her real body was not damaged at all, while Jacob did both

 

[Axiomus]

Again, the fact you said Sun level means you do not know how much energy that is

What? This doesn't even make sense. Sun outputs 3.846×10^26 Watts in a minute. That's over 1.5 billion nuclear bombs going off in a second. That amount of energy confined in an area as small as Fairy Glitter's radius would cause a kugelblitz black hole. It would rip any planet apart.

even moon drip uses all the moonlight energy and it is a similar radius as FG, and they never said anything about it being limited amount of energy either, Like I said, FG was incomplete when Bluenote defeated it, you are very selective Urano Metria is more light balls hammering to their opponents. Youa re really confusing things that should not be, get over it.

The difference is there, her real body was not damaged at all, while Jacob did both

Moonlight energy is literally insignificant in real life. It's actually just reflected sunlight. The light you see in the day is far more luminous.

Urano Metria draws upon the power of the 88 constellations in Lucy's enchantment. Angel tanked it. Is she star-level now too?

Funny thing is, I originally started out as thinking August could win this. But after Fyron's good arguments and hearing you argue that Cana is star level....I'm completely convinced Zeref takes this now.

 

[WoWfan]

I never said sun level, I said the energy of the sun, moon and stars, which on their own are not even Star level, and it's per second, not per minute, and that amount of energy is Multi-Continent Level, no different from Spriggans like Irene who compress an entire large country like Fiore, get your facts straight. The fact that those "Stars" are just orbs of light no bigger than an average person are not real stars.
Your words, not mine, you said Cana is Star Level

Then I guess in you ropinion you think that humans can cause a kugelblitz too

Never said that Zeref could not seeing as he scales to Phoenix which is Multi-Continent Level

 

[Axiomus]

I never said sun level, I said the energy of the sun, moon and stars, which on their own are not even Star level, and it's per second, not per minute, and that amount of energy is Multi-Continent Level, no different from Spriggans like Irene who compress an entire large country like Fiore, get your facts straight. The fact that those "Stars" are just orbs of light no bigger than an average person are not real stars.

Oh buddy, oh pal....Do you realize how many planets you can fit inside the sun? You realize how much energy the sun produces in a minute? If someone can control the power of the sun, they wouldn't be multi-continental. They'd be star-level. Sun is a star. Even if they could only control 1% the power of the sun, they would still be multi-plantary. Star level is already utterly ridiculous, but I guess what you're talking about is multiple stars. Which is just...

 

[WoWfan]

Oh buddy, oh pal....Do you realize how many planets you can fit inside the sun? You realize how much energy the sun produces in a minute? If someone can control the power of the sun, they wouldn't be multi-continental. They'd be star-level. Sun is a star. Even if they could only control 1% the power of the sun, they would still be multi-plantary. Star level is already utterly ridiculous, but I guess what you're talking about is multiple stars. Which is just...

Yes they would be, to destroy the planet Earth, would require 2.4869696e+32 Joules of energy. you are talking about Mass-Energy Conversion, which is not what is described. Though I found it funny how you came across Multi-Star level when the Mass-Energy = Solar System level (178762405050753028596000000000000000000000000000 Joules).

 

[Axiomus]

Yes they would be, to destroy the planet Earth, would require 2.4869696e+32 Joules of energy. you are talking about Mass-Energy Conversion, which is not what is described. Though I found it funny how you came across Multi-Star level when the Mass-Energy = Solar System level (178762405050753028596000000000000000000000000000 Joules).

What? This is a bunch of meaningless nonsense. What mass-energy conversion? What mass energy = solar system level? This is an in scale image of a solar flare and the approximate size of Earth. Doesn't take a genius to figure out that even a single solar flare would wipe out multiple earths.

 

[grey matter]

What in the flying fuck is this discussion? lmao

@WoWfan
Are you arguing that Cana's fairy glitter is multi continental?

If you are...........please dude, just stop LMAO

 

[WoWfan]

What? This is a bunch of meaningless nonsense. What mass-energy conversion? What mass energy = solar system level? This is an in scale image of a solar flare and the approximate size of Earth. Doesn't take a genius to figure out that even a single solar flare would wipe out multiple earths.

a flare releases 9.99999999999999869e+20 Joules per second, which is Large Island level, correction, could in some impossibility wipe out everything on multiple Earths, but not obliterate them.

and this is what you are referring to

E = mc² Calculator

Explore Einstein's famous E=mc² equation with our calculator and understand the mass-energy equivalence easily.

www.omnicalculator.com

And add 1.989 × 10^30 kg to the mass and you will get the energy equivalent

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What in the flying fuck is this discussion? lmao

@WoWfan
Are you arguing that Cana's fairy glitter is multi continental?

If you are...........please dude, just stop LMAO

Hey, this dude is arguing "Sun Level" nonsense, make him stop

 

[grey matter]

I can't even.............LMFAOOOO

@Jean Grey @August_Lightning @atlantisreturns
Bois, we have next level comedy here lmao