Discussion Zoro Discussion Thread

[afromarco005]

Man, I replied to that while thinking more about Law separating to go elsewhere rather than fighting together. That would be epic to see, you're right. Inside his room, Law just teleporting Zoro here there and everywhere while he slashes at his opponents.

But again, I feel like any significant fight from these two (Zoro mostly), would require some healing and I really don't like that LOL.

Remeber, Zoro did beat hachi while the wound Mihawk gave him was still open/bleeding.

That would be the Post TS version of that feat.

 

[King Moe]

It's possible he gives Enma back.

For mine, it comes down to whether or not he makes Enma a black blade. Zoro will forge a black blade, and it should happen in Wano. But it could be Wado that this occurs with. If it is Enma, he won't be giving it back.

I mean he already try his best on Kaido, so Idk if theory on him making black will come given on what happened. So think it's more possible he get new sword after Wano and make it black blade given it's too soon for him to have one at this point and would have it probably at EOS.

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Remeber, Zoro did beat hachi while the wound Mihawk gave him was still open/bleeding.

That would be the Post TS version of that feat.

True, but your comparing Hachi to a Yonko crew like King, Queen, Jack, etc. who are very tanky and shown it takes a lot to damage them. Not to mention they haven't use Haki, Hybrid Form, and Awakening. That be too much for Zoro in his condition to fight on. Even with medical, he wouldn't be at good health to face that. Got think logical on this and not underestimate enemy like pre-timeskip enemies.

 

[M3J]

I think Zoro will keep the sword, probably Ryuuma's too or take Ryuuma's, just because he's earned the right to.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

Zoro performed so well this chapter. Imagine how strong he would be when he makes his swords into black blade

 

[King Moe]

I think Zoro will keep the sword, probably Ryuuma's too or take Ryuuma's, just because he's earned the right to.

Given how much big issue they talk about him taking Ryuma's sword it wouldn't make sense on still keeping it given it's country's treasure and same with Enma, so Idk on that. We have to see, but I feel he get new sword instead than taking something that is sacred to them.

 

[Brandish μ]

I mean he already try his best on Kaido, so Idk if theory on him making black will come given on what happened. So think it's more possible he get new sword after Wano and make it black blade given it's too soon for him to have one at this point and would have it probably at EOS.

I won't deny that Zoro has to make a black blade in this arc, but it's one of the things you could say is foreshadowed for Zoro this arc. There's also a few things to consider, rightly or wrongly:

• Zoro used Asura on Kaido at the end of his limit. If allowed to recover a little, he might be able to have more energy for a stronger attack
• We don't know how black blades are made, so if Oda chooses to he has the flexibility to grant it
• Black blade Zoro is an EOS certainty, and probable an arc or two before that

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

I feel he get new sword instead than taking something that is sacred to them.

zoro taking king's sword after zoro beats him

 

[Brandish μ]

zoro taking king's sword after zoro beats him

You're thinking Zoro fights King? It'd be a cool match up but it feels too difficult for his current condition.

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

You're thinking Zoro fights King? It'd be a cool match up but it feels too difficult for his current condition.

yes, we saw that zoro can still fight even when injured (fought hachi at arlong park, fought pacifista at sabaody). Or maybe helped with law.

 

[Brandish μ]

yes, we saw that zoro can still fight even when injured (fought hachi at arlong park, fought pacifista at sabaody). Or maybe helped with law.

A 2 vs 2 of ZoroLaw and KingQueen would be cool too.

Not trolling (obv) but I see Zoro fighting fodder mostly to show CoC. If Orochi proves difficult to kill, he might need to be oneshotted by Asura too.

 

[King Moe]

A 2 vs 2 of ZoroLaw and KingQueen would be cool too.

Not trolling (obv) but I see Zoro fighting fodder mostly to show CoC. If Orochi proves difficult to kill, he might need to be oneshotted by Asura too.

Given Law on him more focus on Kaido, doesn't make sense to fight someone else now and even medical won't be enough for Zoro to face YC. They haven't gone full power yet and can give Macro trouble. He would be too injured to face one and probably be more focus on Orochi side as can see it be challenging if Orochi can regenerate from being cut. Idk if Asura can stop that, but have to see.

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zoro taking king's sword after zoro beats him

Nah. Plus a lot enemies have swords. He won't face someone like King especially his condition and he is top aerial to fight with.

I won't deny that Zoro has to make a black blade in this arc, but it's one of the things you could say is foreshadowed for Zoro this arc. There's also a few things to consider, rightly or wrongly:

• Zoro used Asura on Kaido at the end of his limit. If allowed to recover a little, he might be able to have more energy for a stronger attack
• We don't know how black blades are made, so if Oda chooses to he has the flexibility to grant it
• Black blade Zoro is an EOS certainty, and probable an arc or two before that

Idk still it be this arc and rather be a sword on his own legacy than using Enma. Plus we still have few arcs before EOS, so Zoro can make black blade later, not in this arc. Idk if he fight Kaido after giving his best. Think he be doing in Orochi situation to stop him. With injuries like his, he won't face heavy challenge as Yonko Crew are like enemies in pre-timeskip.

 

[M3J]

Given how much big issue they talk about him taking Ryuma's sword it wouldn't make sense on still keeping it given it's country's treasure and same with Enma, so Idk on that. We have to see, but I feel he get new sword instead than taking something that is sacred to them.

It makes sense, especially if Zoro's earned both swords. If Ryuuma's sword is a treasure, then if they're willing to let Zoro have it, then that's a great symbolism.

 

[A$APBog]

I know that people are expecting Zoro to fight King. But if it really happens, are you really expecting him to win ?

I mean, he's basically broken, tanked an Hakai, was an amazing support/attack fighter against Kaidou/BM and already used his ultimate/finisher.

If King is really in the same tier than Katakuri and Zoro is in this state, I can't see him win. I really can't, and I don't think I'm too biased when saying that.

Even for a 100% Zoro, it would had been a very tough fight (maybe his toughest but I can see him being victorious in the end) but right now, he can barely move a finger.

But slaying Orochi would make sense for me. Even more when it comes to his CoC.

It would more or less confirm the analogy with the "Deity of War/Asura" he basically is . (Susanoo being the one who slayed Orochi, Zoro would be more or less the OP Susanoo, and thus, a god of war)

 

[King Moe]

It makes sense, especially if Zoro's earned both swords. If Ryuuma's sword is a treasure, then if they're willing to let Zoro have it, then that's a great symbolism.

Depends if country will want that. Though I also see Zoro showing sign of respect not to take them though given how both are very important especially to royal family.

 

[King Moe]

I know that people are expecting Zoro to fight King. But if it really happens, are you really expecting him to win ?

I mean, he's basically broken, tanked an Hakai, was an amazing support/attack fighter against Kaidou/BM and already used his ultimate/finisher.

If King is really in the same tier than Katakuri and Zoro is in this state, I can't see him win. I really can't, and I don't think I'm too biased when saying that.

Even for a 100% Zoro, it would had been a very tough fight (maybe his toughest but I can see him being victorious in the end) but right now, he can barely move a finger.

But slaying Orochi would make sense for me. Even more when it comes to his CoC.

It would more or less confirm the analogy with the "Deity of War/Asura" he basically is . (Susanoo being the one who slayed Orochi, Zoro would be more or less the OP Susanoo, and thus, a god of war)

He didn't tank or stop it. Law saved him from Hakai. That is clear and saved him in time that he was heavily damage from the attack. Though I do agree with you on the rest. Zoro too injured to face YC given the factor of how much tanks they are than him. Also with they haven't use Haki, Hybrid Form, and Awakening yet on each of them. Even if medical, Law's doesn't make you back to fighting if we saw how Luffy was after damage he took and still wasn't back fully from the war.

Interesting statement on lore there as can most likely to happen given how much Zoro wants revenge with Orochi to begin with and probably be with Scabbards and Hiyori with Orochi and Kanjuro.

 

[King Moe]

So tell me about the swords. Do you think Zoro will get new sword and give back Enma or your thinking something else on what happens on his swords?

 

[Taris]

So tell me about the swords. Do you think Zoro will get new sword and give back Enma or your thinking something else on what happens on his swords?

Zoro doesn't give anything back (Enma)

 

[King Moe]

Zoro doesn't give anything back (Enma)

Interesting. Can you explain? Don't you think Zoro will learn to respect that he can't have the sword anymore given he feels Momo or Hiyori are deserving of it given ties to their father? Feel like he will trade it for new sword knowing that.

 

[Taris]

Interesting. Can you explain? Don't you think Zoro will learn to respect that he can't have the sword anymore given he feels Momo or Hiyori are deserving of it given ties to their father? Feel like he will trade it for new sword knowing that.

If I remember the manga correctly then Hiyori gave Zoro her father's sword in exchange for his help (in fact she just paid him)

And this little jerk aka Momo doesn't deserve such a weapon

 

[goldb]

If I remember the manga correctly then Hiyori gave Zoro her father's sword in exchange for his help (in fact she just paid him)

And this little jerk aka Momo doesn't deserve such a weapon

It's less about deserving and more about ownership. Oden left his kids with a sword each. Enma belonged to Hiyori until she willingly gave it to Zoro in exchange for him returning Shusui to its resting place. Momo has no claim over it. It is Zoro's to do what he wants.

It's difficult to picture a scenario wherein Oda has Zoro spend all this time mastering Enma, only to trade it away for another sword post battle.