Discussion Zoro Discussion Thread

[Ramen]

Law is 500M and Kidd +400M

Yea I can't see a massive jump like that for them.

Should we talk about Luffy here?
If Kaido go down and BM run away, the WG will say he was the leader of that war and give the last blow to Kaido made BM run away so he'll be consider one of the Yonko who fought 2 of them so 3B wouldn't be impossible

Nah, I'll quote you in his thread.

 

[nik87]

Why you leave us for Worstgen?

No censorship.

A bit too high imo.

How much do you think would the World Government give to the guy who cuts Kaido into pieces?
They might consider him so dangerous that they will change his wanted poster to Only Dead.

 

[King Moe]

Zoro's gonna reach the billion Bounty after this arc and injuring a Yonko and defeating a Billion Bounty YC is his way to that.
Luffy : +2B Bounty
Zoro : +1B Bounty
Sanji & Jinbei : +800M
Robin : +300M
Ussop : +300M
Franky : +200M
Nami & Brook : +100M
Chopper : meh like always
(Yamato : + - 500M)

Spoiler: Chapter 1000

Given this a team fight, Zoro bounty will not reach to Billion especially that close to Luffy. Unless he face Queen to beat him on the regard, he will not have amount that large.

Plus Sanji and Jimbei be very to each other bounties especially tying with Sanji to continue narrative of their rivalry.

 

[Nie Li]

Spoiler: Chapter 1000

Given this a team fight, Zoro bounty will not reach to Billion especially that close to Luffy. Unless he face Queen to beat him on the regard, he will not have amount that large.

Plus Sanji and Jimbei be very to each other bounties especially tying with Sanji to continue narrative of their rivalry.

Spoiler: Chapter 1000

So you believe that Marine HQ's gonna be like...

"This Roronoa Zoro pirate apparently took direct part in helping his captain defeat Kaido. He even managed to injure that beast that was worth almost 5 billions. What bounty should we give him?"

"Well, it was a team fight so it's not such a huge feat. Let's not give him a billion. He seems to be the rival of that son of Judge so let's give him the same bounty as him."

That's a Nobel Prize in Literature right there.

 

[Ramen]

Spoiler: Chapter 1000

So you believe that Marine HQ's gonna be like...

"This Roronoa Zoro pirate apparently took direct part in helping his captain defeat Kaido. He even managed to injure that beast that was worth almost 5 billions. What bounty should we give him?"

"Well, it was a team fight so it's not such a huge feat. Let's not give him a billion. He seems to be the rival of that son of Judge so let's give him the same bounty as him."

That's a Nobel Prize in Literature right there.

My dream is to get a Nobel prize in literature.

 

[M3J]

Who say revenge for Sanji? He just not fighting women. He going to come up there to fight with Kaido and possible with Sanji, Zoro, and Jimbei take on King, Queen, and Jack.

I downplay Zoro beating 2 Yonkos and able to do most damage when Luffy couldn't do it before Adv. COA. Nothing wrong to be logical on the situation.

You did. You wanted to troll ZOro and his fans because of the way Sanji was criticized.

@The Prince of Darkness Who'd you like to see Zoro fight? I know there he wants to go to Kaido but I want him to fight King or have a 1v1.

I want Kaido to be a team fight between Luffy, the Scabbards, and Law. Kidd too.

I'd like to see Zoro fight King, and if he's a fun matchup against Kaidou then Kaidou too, especially with Luffy. IT's been too long since we've seen Zoro and Luffy fight together, other than skirmishes at the start of this arc. Seeing the two laidback fighters would be fun.

 

[Ramen]

You did. You wanted to troll ZOro and his fans because of the way Sanji was criticized.



I'd like to see Zoro fight King, and if he's a fun matchup against Kaidou then Kaidou too, especially with Luffy. IT's been too long since we've seen Zoro and Luffy fight together, other than skirmishes at the start of this arc. Seeing the two laidback fighters would be fun.

That could set up a Marco v King and Sanji v Queen thing but I want Zoro to have his moment to shine since so many people will be fighting Kaido. Unles he possibly does something to BM.

My original is King v Zoro.

 

[M3J]

I don't know if that's really necessary as Zoro has consistently shone, no? Having him against King or Queen would be more fun as he'd get more limelight whereas against Kaidou, it'd be Luffy and any other captain that'd get the most spotlight.

 

[King Moe]

Spoiler: Chapter 1000

So you believe that Marine HQ's gonna be like...

"This Roronoa Zoro pirate apparently took direct part in helping his captain defeat Kaido. He even managed to injure that beast that was worth almost 5 billions. What bounty should we give him?"

"Well, it was a team fight so it's not such a huge feat. Let's not give him a billion. He seems to be the rival of that son of Judge so let's give him the same bounty as him."

That's a Nobel Prize in Literature right there.

Spoiler

Then do like in WCI it's more Luffy then him and put Luffy on giving him a bounty, unless he face and beat one of the YC (Queen preferably), being apart in team fight won't instantly raise your bounty to those level of billions especially in a team fight as everyone be counted especially possible of Kidd and Law as well the rest of Supernova Captains getting higher bounty than Zoro given they look upon more than him in the fight.

If I have to judge, could be lower than billion, but can be around 700-800 perhaps, but if he can take out YC, it can raise to be more than that.

Sanji is a major threat, Idk why you think his bounty won't increase especially be taking down YC (preferably King) in this arc too. If they do, both be above billions, but still not lose to Luffy's bounty or even above at least Kidd and Law on their increasion.

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You did. You wanted to troll ZOro and his fans because of the way Sanji was criticized.



I'd like to see Zoro fight King, and if he's a fun matchup against Kaidou then Kaidou too, especially with Luffy. IT's been too long since we've seen Zoro and Luffy fight together, other than skirmishes at the start of this arc. Seeing the two laidback fighters would be fun.

Never said anything on revenge when I talk about the chapter. Your one stating that, but just stating something else on Zoro.

Zoro vs King still not going to look good given King is a flier and will fly around. Queen looks more suitable given he is more grounded for Zoro especially to test gun mouth vs sword mouth clashing XD.

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I don't know if that's really necessary as Zoro has consistently shone, no? Having him against King or Queen would be more fun as he'd get more limelight whereas against Kaidou, it'd be Luffy and any other captain that'd get the most spotlight.

If he really does go without fighting YC lvl opponent and just support for Yonkos fight, while he will get a bit of shine, it be kinda underwhelming given he has not still have solid fight of challenging opponent to face on his own and just been in teamups where we can't gauge properly how strong he is on his own as he isn't the one to beat Yonkos especially Kaido which is going to be Luffy the one to majority spotlight on that.

 

[Nie Li]

Sanji is a major threat, Idk why you think his bounty won't increase especially be taking down YC (preferably King) in this arc too. If they do, both be above billions, but still not lose to Luffy's bounty or even above at least Kidd and Law on their increasion.

I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't say anything about Sanji's bounty not increasing. Nor do I care about it because this is not his thread.


However, if I have to comment on the topic of bounties, Luffy's bounty is bound to make a huge jump to perhaps more than 2 bil. That's how dangerous he will become in the eyes of the WG if he's the main force behind the fall of one or two Yonkos.

If that happens, Zoro is likely to reach 1 bil regardless of who he slays, but I'm sure he will make more than enough merits for a huge bounty jump either way.

 

[M3J]

Zoro can do ranged slashes. He was able to take out Pica that way despite Pica running from stone to stone.

Against a Yonkou, he'd be competing with captains as well, if they join. I forgot who else is going to fight Kaidou though.

 

[King Moe]

I don't know what you're talking about. I didn't say anything about Sanji's bounty not increasing. Nor do I care about it because this is not his thread.


However, if I have to comment on the topic of bounties, Luffy's bounty is bound to make a huge jump to perhaps more than 2 bil. That's how dangerous he will become in the eyes of the WG if he's the main force behind the fall of one or two Yonkos.

If that happens, Zoro is likely to reach 1 bil regardless of who he slays, but I'm sure he will make more than enough merits for a huge bounty jump either way.

Spoiler: Chapter 1000

If he face one of the YC lvl, it could reach over a billion, but if he just in team fight, Idk if that will boost him over as it be like Luffy's situation on WCI to get more of the bounty increasing while the rest get some boost, but don't think it be over a billion. Especially they just see him just supporting his captain then a guy soloing 2 Yonkos which not going to happen XD.

That's why I am stating that if he can face YC instead and get toss back into them (Queen), then they see likely being over billion in that case since we all know Kaido is Luffy's main opponent and it wouldn't make sense to be increasing with someone who is main reason he went down.

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Zoro can do ranged slashes. He was able to take out Pica that way despite Pica running from stone to stone.

Against a Yonkou, he'd be competing with captains as well, if they join. I forgot who else is going to fight Kaidou though.

Only so much you can do with range especially he couldn't do much on Apoo until he was held on by Drake, so that won't be enough as he will need to get close, but can't see him surviving an club from Kaido or smack down from Big Mom if they were able to damage Luffy hard in G4 and his durability have been 'lackluster' on being on that level to withstand that amount of punishment. Think it going to lead to something else for him in facing YC to make up for it then having a chance with 2 Yonkos.

 

[Nie Li]

Spoiler: Chapter 1000

If he face one of the YC lvl, it could reach over a billion, but if he just in team fight, Idk if that will boost him over as it be like Luffy's situation on WCI to get more of the bounty increasing while the rest get some boost, but don't think it be over a billion. Especially they just see him just supporting his captain then a guy soloing 2 Yonkos which not going to happen XD.

That's why I am stating that if he can face YC instead and get toss back into them (Queen), then they see likely being over billion in that case since we all know Kaido is Luffy's main opponent and it wouldn't make sense to be increasing with someone who is main reason he went down.

Spoiler: Chapter 1000

Pointless. WG may not even know "who fought who". They'll know Zoro is a Supernova and Luffy's first mate, and that he was in the fight in which Kaido was defeated.

Helping bring down the strongest creature in the world and win the war against the Beast Pirates, not to mention Big Mom, will boost all the bounties of the people involved. That you think defeating King can boost one's bounty more than actually helping take down Kaido is ridiculous.

Luffy will be the main responsible of defeating Kaido, yes, but he wouldn't be able to do it alone. The Marine's don't think of this in terms of "Hey, it was a 1vs1, it was fair" nor "hey, he didn't solo them". The Marines see one's actions, one's power and one's danger. Just like how Usopp's bounty made a leap when he burnt the Government's flag. He didn't even fight anyone in that arc.

You should be able to understand this. I won't go over it again.

 

[King Moe]

Spoiler: Chapter 1000

Pointless. WG may not even know "who fought who". They'll know Zoro is a Supernova and Luffy's first mate, and that he was in the fight in which Kaido was defeated.

Helping bring down the strongest creature in the world and win the war against the Beast Pirates, not to mention Big Mom, will boost all the bounties of the people involved. That you think defeating King can boost one's bounty more than actually helping take down Kaido is ridiculous.

Luffy will be the main responsible of defeating Kaido, yes, but he wouldn't be able to do it alone. The Marine's don't think of this in terms of "Hey, it was a 1vs1, it was fair" nor "hey, he didn't solo them". The Marines see one's actions, one's power and one's danger. Just like how Usopp's bounty made a leap when he burnt the Government's flag. He didn't even fight anyone in that arc.

You should be able to understand this. I won't go over it again.

Spoiler

By that logic, why didn't Sanji, Jimbei, and Bege hit the billions when newspaper stated they all had a hand to take down Big Mom and facing her crew, but mostly give Luffy the shine more overall on his bounty increasion. It can't be same way on this case even with Zoro. They will see him as the 'help', but not main reason for how Kaido goes down as that be Luffy. He will increase, but less likely be above a billion. Can't see Zoro surviving long in the fight given 2 Yonkos are too much for him to just take on attacks and keep going. Unless it's comical situation like Usopp, Zoro won't increase like that and be more supporting hand to Kaido just like it was on Big Mom.

His best bet is to increase after facing an YC, not be a support guy as at least they say something more about him, but not like this stuff. Also Usopp one wasn't really big increase and not right example either. Not going be way you think how it works on that.

 

[Nie Li]

Spoiler

By that logic, why didn't Sanji, Jimbei, and Bege hit the billions when newspaper stated they all had a hand to take down Big Mom and facing her crew, but mostly give Luffy the shine more overall on his bounty increasion. It can't be same way on this case even with Zoro. They will see him as the 'help', but not main reason for how Kaido goes down as that be Luffy. He will increase, but less likely be above a billion. Can't see Zoro surviving long in the fight given 2 Yonkos are too much for him to just take on attacks and keep going. Unless it's comical situation like Usopp, Zoro won't increase like that and be more supporting hand to Kaido just like it was on Big Mom.

His best bet is to increase after facing an YC, not be a support guy as at least they say something more about him, but not like this stuff. Also Usopp one wasn't really big increase and not right example either. Not going be way you think how it works on that.

They never took down Big Mom.

And you're derailing a topic of "what makes a bounty increase" into a power level discussion about how weak you think Zoro is, which is unrelated, so that's the end of it.

 

[King Moe]

They never took down Big Mom.

And you're derailing a topic of "what makes a bounty increase" into a power level discussion about how weak you think Zoro is, which is unrelated, so that's the end of it.

Though Luffy still got Billion despite not doing that. Why it change for this one? Zoro will get a raised, but not over billion yet. He got another chance on that later arcs or if he beat YC (Queen) here.

Not really. Just stating how it works and your ignoring it not that easy to get raise like that as shown in WCI arc.

 

[Sachsenhesse]

If we go by one piece schemata, Zoros new bounty was always higher then luffy old, when he got it.

Luffy 100 mill -> Zoro 120
Luffy 300 mill -> Zoro 320

Going by this, if they give luffy a new one, zoro gets his old one *1+20mill

So he should get 1.520 billion, WHEN luffy gets a raise.

 

[Fox666]

If we go by one piece schemata, Zoros new bounty was always higher then luffy old, when he got it.

Luffy 100 mill -> Zoro 120
Luffy 300 mill -> Zoro 320

Going by this, if they give luffy a new one, zoro gets his old one *1+20mill

So he should get 1.520 billion, WHEN luffy gets a raise.

When Zoro got a 320 million bounty, Luffy's was 400 million.

Meaning Zoro's next one would be 400-something...

 

[Sachsenhesse]

When Zoro got a 320 million bounty, Luffy's was 400 million.

Meaning Zoro's next one would be 400-something...

I used the bounty Luffy had before thew posters. So currently it would be his 1.5 bill

 

[King Moe]

If we go by one piece schemata, Zoros new bounty was always higher then luffy old, when he got it.

Luffy 100 mill -> Zoro 120
Luffy 300 mill -> Zoro 320

Going by this, if they give luffy a new one, zoro gets his old one *1+20mill

So he should get 1.520 billion, WHEN luffy gets a raise.

Idk about that as Luffy's next bounty after 300 million went to 400 million, so that wouldn't work and instead his bounty would go over 400 million if we going by following Luffy's bounty logic.