Discussion Zoro Discussion Thread

Is It a Requirement for Zoro to have Conqueror's Haki?


  • Total voters
    105

Fox666

Registered User
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Apr 28, 2008
Messages
7,007
Reaction score
4,650
Country
Galactic Empire
Something is off about Orochi freezing when Zoro attacked him... when he had that meeting with CP0, it appeared that Orochi was not just incredibly powerful, but also fearless.
 

Pirate Queen

Registered User
九千以上だ! / Kyuusen Ijou Da! / It's Over 9000!
Joined
Jun 1, 2010
Messages
9,673
Reaction score
17,729
Country
United States
Something is off about Orochi freezing when Zoro attacked him... when he had that meeting with CP0, it appeared that Orochi was not just incredibly powerful, but also fearless.
Because they cant touch him when Kaido is protecting him. The WG cant enter Wano. It's different with Zoro who wouldnt show such restraint
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

Doesn't matter on that. Zoro won't get go of his anger for Orochi. They will fight later on whether Orochi can be challenging opponent or not.
It does matter. It's the only thing that matters concerning Zoro vs Orochi... if it were to happen
 

King Moe

Banned
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Mar 29, 2018
Messages
5,924
Reaction score
3,413
Age
31
Country
United States
Because they cant touch him when Kaido is protecting him. The WG cant enter Wano. It's different with Zoro who wouldnt show such restraint
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---



It does matter. It's the only thing that matters concerning Zoro vs Orochi... if it were to happen
So your saying Zoro won't come fight him anymore after this? Doubt it. Zoro is vengeful when you go after his allies or innocent people. Zoro vs Orochi is inevitable to happen seeing how he went for strike above anything else going on around him.
 

M3J

MH Senpai
神のごとし / Kami no Gotoshi / Godlike
Joined
Mar 2, 2009
Messages
48,828
Reaction score
17,292
Gender
Male
Country
Akatsuki
Well, if Oda wanted to, Zoro could learn the style in the fight. Or Zoro loses now, and comes back stronger later in the arc. He needs to be tested so he can get stronger, otherwise he'll be so far behind Luffy lol.
But how would it mesh? Because I can't see Zoro dropping his three swords style, unless samurai/Wano style actually improves it. He likely needs more power and probably speed.
Train with 1 sword and incorporate it with his other 2? Idk lol, just trying to strike up conversation since I've been off this site for a short while
how would that happen though? I'm curious as I thought they were two different styles, unless they're different but can still mesh together.
 

Brandish μ

Taking notes
伝説メンバー / Densetsu / Legendary Member
Global Moderator
Joined
Oct 24, 2015
Messages
10,243
Reaction score
33,627
Gender
Male
Country
Kingdom of Fiore
But how would it mesh? Because I can't see Zoro dropping his three swords style, unless samurai/Wano style actually improves it. He likely needs more power and probably speed.
Idk, I was more suggesting he doesn't need to 'train' to pick up a skill. But I suppose with something like sword styles they should take more practice than a simple power up.

Zoro can improve in many area, the obvious one being haki.
 

M3J

MH Senpai
神のごとし / Kami no Gotoshi / Godlike
Joined
Mar 2, 2009
Messages
48,828
Reaction score
17,292
Gender
Male
Country
Akatsuki
ZOro will probably show us new moves, it's not lie he's gone all out so far, has he? We'll probably see few new moves used.

I still think Zoro actively chooses not to use haki for one reason or another.
 

hokageji

Registered User
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
Dec 7, 2007
Messages
4,976
Reaction score
3,744
Gender
Male
Country
United States
Well Zoro did show interest in Kinemon's foxfire style. In a scenario where Zoro has to fight Prometheus, Zeus and Napolen for instance, maybe one sword can learn the foxfire style and attack prometheus? just a thought...

If u ask me, we might see an evolved version of asura by the end of Wano.
 

Fox666

Registered User
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Apr 28, 2008
Messages
7,007
Reaction score
4,650
Country
Galactic Empire
Because they cant touch him when Kaido is protecting him. The WG cant enter Wano. It's different with Zoro who wouldnt show such restraint

It does matter. It's the only thing that matters concerning Zoro vs Orochi... if it were to happen
Even so, he looks like a completely different person.

And who's going to fight Orochi in this arc? I don't recall any of Zoro "rivals" to freeze from the most basic attack.
 
Last edited:

hokageji

Registered User
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
Dec 7, 2007
Messages
4,976
Reaction score
3,744
Gender
Male
Country
United States
Orochi's definitely a disappoinment so far. I know many of you saw this coming, but I for one would've expected the Shogun from Wano to be the strongest samurai. Now Kyoshiro fits that label.
nevertheless, Mythical zoans are perhaps amongst the strongest DF abilities one can get. They also have one additional power other than just their zoan ability so lets wait and see if that helps Orochi seem like a potential opponent. If that ability is something like becoming as hard as diamond, i still see him as a worthy opponent to Zoro.
 

King Moe

Banned
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Mar 29, 2018
Messages
5,924
Reaction score
3,413
Age
31
Country
United States
Orochi's definitely a disappoinment so far. I know many of you saw this coming, but I for one would've expected the Shogun from Wano to be the strongest samurai. Now Kyoshiro fits that label.
nevertheless, Mythical zoans are perhaps amongst the strongest DF abilities one can get. They also have one additional power other than just their zoan ability so lets wait and see if that helps Orochi seem like a potential opponent. If that ability is something like becoming as hard as diamond, i still see him as a worthy opponent to Zoro.
There is also if it is based on the legend of Orochi, he is pretty immune to cuts especially cutting off his heads as more grow in his place each time to replace it. Zoro's strike was fast, so perhaps he had no time to transform to use his ability.

We just have to wait and see about him as a powerful DF like a Mythical Zoan of all things like Marco's, Oda wouldn't waste it as one-shot or fodder material like that.
 

hokageji

Registered User
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
Dec 7, 2007
Messages
4,976
Reaction score
3,744
Gender
Male
Country
United States
I like that idea King Moe. Hopefully Oda doesnt waste a mythical DF ability. Maybe Orochi was strong at a point but has become cocky since being backed by Kaido. Lets see how it ends.
 

nik87

Banned
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
Aug 25, 2016
Messages
3,658
Reaction score
3,348
Country
The Wall
What's more likely to happen for Zoro?
1. Kyoshiro is an ally and trains Zoro in Wano style swordsmanship
2. Kyoshiro is Zoro's final arc battle
I think none of the above. Kyoshiro is one of the top opponents for Zoro in this arc, top opponent from Shoguns side and the final one will most likely be someone from Kaido's side. I see Shogun's forces being defeated before they take on Beast Pirates.

If Zoro trains anything in this arc, I think it will be Kinemon's style to cut fire and possibly the ability how to make permanent black blades.
 

M3J

MH Senpai
神のごとし / Kami no Gotoshi / Godlike
Joined
Mar 2, 2009
Messages
48,828
Reaction score
17,292
Gender
Male
Country
Akatsuki
Well Zoro did show interest in Kinemon's foxfire style. In a scenario where Zoro has to fight Prometheus, Zeus and Napolen for instance, maybe one sword can learn the foxfire style and attack prometheus? just a thought...

If u ask me, we might see an evolved version of asura by the end of Wano.
I don't think he'll learn it if Kinemon does join, but can any other swordsman use fire style? Could be unique only to Kinemon like how ice and lullaby styles are to Brook.
 

hokageji

Registered User
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
Dec 7, 2007
Messages
4,976
Reaction score
3,744
Gender
Male
Country
United States
I don't think he'll learn it if Kinemon does join, but can any other swordsman use fire style? Could be unique only to Kinemon like how ice and lullaby styles are to Brook.
THe lullaby style isn't a sword attack is it? I dont remember. THe ice attack is thanks to his DF ability, but Kinemon's attack isnt related to that. The fact that he showed interest could be an indicator that it can be learned, dont you think?
 

M3J

MH Senpai
神のごとし / Kami no Gotoshi / Godlike
Joined
Mar 2, 2009
Messages
48,828
Reaction score
17,292
Gender
Male
Country
Akatsuki
I'm joking, but isn't the lullaby associated with his swordsmanship, or has he used it without his sword? Did not know ice was related to Brook's devil fruit though, I thought it was part of his skill.

It is an indicator, but it's not like Zoro mentioned it again. Of course though, doesn't mean that he didn't try to learn, especially if he and Kinemon were going to Wano together.
 

Pirate Queen

Registered User
九千以上だ! / Kyuusen Ijou Da! / It's Over 9000!
Joined
Jun 1, 2010
Messages
9,673
Reaction score
17,729
Country
United States
I wish oda went into more depth about sword styles rather than have a just a broad genetalization of swordsmanship.

For example- North Blue Style swordsmanship, Wano style swordsmanship, drunken style swordsmanship, tiger style swordsmanship...

We just have "so and so is a swordsman" and their techniques determine their style.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---

Between Brook and Zoro, I wonder who the better swordsman is. Not strength wise, skill wise.

If Brook and Zoro were equally strong, who would win?
--- Double Post Merged, ---

Between Brook and Zoro, I wonder who the better swordsman is. Not strength wise, skill wise.

If Brook and Zoro were equally strong, who would win?
 

M3J

MH Senpai
神のごとし / Kami no Gotoshi / Godlike
Joined
Mar 2, 2009
Messages
48,828
Reaction score
17,292
Gender
Male
Country
Akatsuki
I'm assuming there's not enough time or relevancy to explaining all that when they'll probably appear every once in a while or just once. Plus, does it really matter?

I think it'd probably be Zoro? He looked skilled enough to beat Ryuuma where Brook failed, or was that because of strength?
 

Shasha23

Banned
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
Mar 14, 2015
Messages
2,547
Reaction score
1,684
Gender
Male
Country
South Africa
What's more likely to happen for Zoro?

1. Kyoshiro is an ally and trains Zoro in Wano style swordsmanship

2. Kyoshiro is Zoro's final arc battle
Doubt any of that, Zoro's main final battle is the 2nd strongest guy of the arc and that is King, but even as i say that I still cant picture Zoro being strong enough to do it.
 

Anti Jobber

Registered User
初心者/ Shoshinsha / Beginner
Joined
Jun 1, 2019
Messages
5
Reaction score
4
Age
28
Country
Denmark
the thing I find weird with zoro fighting orochi is that will leave kinemon and the other retainers with no purposes
i felt like the SHP+law should be focused to fight another pirates and the kozuki family samurai should fight the orochi family army
 

nik87

Banned
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
Aug 25, 2016
Messages
3,658
Reaction score
3,348
Country
The Wall
the thing I find weird with zoro fighting orochi is that will leave kinemon and the other retainers with no purposes
i felt like the SHP+law should be focused to fight another pirates and the kozuki family samurai should fight the orochi family army
I think there are more samurais of Kyoshiro's caliber, the two that were shown with Kyoshiro at Orochi's banquet. Hard to guess still who will fight who but some of the retainers still might end up fighting Orochi's army. At least those two with Kyoshiro should be strong and I hoped that at least 2-3 among the Oniwaban are a serious challenge but so far only Daikoku looks to be able to use his brain, Fukurokuju aside...
 
Top