Roles & Position are words synonymous and similar enough to be used interchangeably depending on how you are using the words.
I was litterally responding back to you. No jabs were thrown. Your being overly sensetive
Quite sure Sanji has never followed Zoro orders
He doesn't. But I don't think he would never follow his orders. Sanji kinda just agrees or would reluctantly agree with an idea or decision Zoro would issue in any given situation. Like teaming up, or leaving protection of other members to Sanji..etc etc..
Does someone position not define the role they play?...
"It's not semantics when 1 person has 2 clearly defined "roles", both not reflective of eachother"
See how you feel a way..As did I. Let it go and move on. Haven't called you name since that post. My last post explains why your response were just unnecessary response to thoughts you agree with. Ok, let's move on and remember to play nice with others.
Exactly even Sanji did dare strike back at a Yonko without Luffys expressed permission and they were In a life or death situation
I feel like there is a subtle pecking order being established inside the strawhats:Exactly even Sanji did dare strike back at a Yonko without Luffys expressed permission and they were In a life or death situation
Whereas Zoro immediately returned fire against an Admiral of Marines without asking for permission
2 Things when I read your comment.
It's not actually about orders though, like you said, it's about who's the right hand man. Or rather, who Luffy relies on more, who gets to take more decisions, and who gets to communicate with Luffy when he's not there. Even on the smallest or biggest of scales. Zoro basically gets to do his own thing, and people back him up on it, even Luffy doesn't question him. He's like a second Luffy with green hair and swords as far as his actions within the crew. Zoro is the guy who explained to Chopper why they follow Luffy in Alabasta, and the guy who explained to everyone why Usopp needs to appologise to Luffy. He was in charge of bringing Nami back when Luffy had to stay on Baratie to pay his debt to Zeff. (There is an actual panel where he orders Usopp to come with him). He took it upon himself to KO all of whiskey peak while Luffy was sleeping. He's the only one who deviated from Kinemon's plan and started trouble in Wano and Luffy did the exact same thing the moment he met with him. He's the one Luffy goes to when he needs something done without question: Zoro saving Smoker in Alabasta.
I did say he RARELY gives out orders. Not that he never gives out orders. I do understand what your trying to say tho.
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I can 100% see Oden disobeying Rayliegh.
Oh. That's because no one gives out an order to him that he'd listen to, other than Nami when it comes to navigating. And by listen to, I mean Zoro won't listen to Chopper telling him to rest or Usopp demanding extra protection, but he will listen if they tell him to do something to prevent the ship from sinking or whatnot. And isn't Zoro often by himself off the ship, usually because he gets lost?
There is no pecking order at all. When Luffy's not trying to be the captain, it's Nami that usually leads, at least when they need someone who knows how to navigate and stuff.
Yes, I'm willing to bet at least one person would ignore what Rayleigh said or even have a rivalry with him, not counting Oden. The crew seems lighthearted enough that there'd be at least one person who'd defy Rayleigh. Sanji also does respect Zoro's authority, especially when Zoro makes sense.
Nami never gets to decide anything or make judgement calls. She just does her job with navigation and money management.
It's the way his character is designed man. He literally splits from the group without reason, and if they catch him doing it before he goes too far, he tells them they are the ones going the wrong way, and continues on his own path. Sure, it fits with the gag that he gets lost a lot, but it shows that if it's not what he would have done, he won't do it, unless Luffy is the one to ask that is.
If Sanji only listen to Zoro if he agrees with him, by definition that's not authority.
Jinbe isn't vice captain though. And Zoro wouldn't take orders from him.
How does that mean he won't listen to others? That just means he thinks he knows where he's going and overestimates his sense of direction, but that's about it.
Then none of the Straw Hats except for Nami has authority as most won't always listen to Luffy, and they're willing to hit him for being an idiot. The members will be more likely to listen to Jinbei as they do Nami because he's usually the voice of reason and common sense, and he plans things out even if incomplete.