Discussion Zoro Discussion Thread

[Pirate Queen]

Is that panel supposed to help your case? Because it is showing them pushing it, not trying to cut it.
Show me where he tries all sorts of named techniques or ultimate moves to cut it. Where did he say that he cant cut it?
There is no single instance which shows him trying so there is no proof that he cant.
On the other hand, there is proof that he can. Jeet and Abdullah have cut through Black Knight whose strings were used to form the Birdcage.
Now, unless you want to claim that Jeet and Abdullah are better at cutting than Zoro your case cant stand because Zoro is superior to them and you dont have a single proof that he tried cutting and failed.
And with that, this discussion ends.

So... your stance is that never tired to cut Birdcage?

Please, am I getting that correctly?

 

[nik87]

So... your stance is that never tired to cut Birdcage?
Please, am I getting that correctly?

Do show me where anyone tried to cut it, not just Zoro, anyone.

 

[Shasha23]

Right, me and you had a great discussion on this. Oda avoids putting Zoro in positions where he will get wrecked against serious arc villains because the last time that happened Enel wrecked him and since then Zoro has been coddled for the most part, as opposed to Sanji.

We have the Yeti Brother in Punk Hazard and Kill incident that shows Zoro could get handled pretty easily, but those are kind of one offs that I dont really count in relation to his characters strength.

But to your point. Oda would never have put Zoro in Sanji's position because Zoro's image would take a major hit.

That is the problem with Oda, so we cant use it against Zoro. Since NW when he ran into the major villain he either One Short or the enemy avoids him for 1 reason or another.

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So... your stance is that never tired to cut Birdcage?

Please, am I getting that correctly?

Thats what happened and you know it.

Your logic is slowly but surely getting warped with every post, can you please stop this nonsense!

 

[King Moe]

It doesnt make fucking sense that he didnt try to cut it! He's a swordsman for fucksake lol how does that make sense to you?

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I need to see you type that Zoro, an Elite Swordsman, didn't both to at least try to cut strings....

Only then will you realize how stupid that sounds.

Still think I go to the 'extreme' with my posts like these 2? Now you see what's like dealing with them over Zoro-related issues.

Also agree that if Zoro first instinct is not to cut the cage after just cutting Pica's stone form (Though had help on it) recently, then it shows he couldn't do anything at all. Not just to the cage, but Doffy overall.

He is either idiot (which is Canon, but he isn't this stupid) or admits he couldn't do anything to it. Hence why he decide to push and not to cut it.

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An easy thing for Zoro who would have made spaghetti of Doffy.
Just because Sanji was trashed it doesnt mean Zoro will be. One thing is to trash Sanji who is hype tool for others and another thing to trash Zoro who humiliates others.

Zoro been hype tool by others since day one and still continue to Wano given his past 4 bad fights. Sanji been doing better than him honestly on dealing serious threats unlike Zoro who has trouble with credible foes more.

 

[Pirate Queen]

Still think I go to the 'extreme' with my posts like these 2? Now you see what's like dealing with them over Zoro-related issues.

Also agree that if Zoro first instinct is not to cut the cage after just cutting Pica's stone form (Though had help on it) recently, then it shows he couldn't do anything at all. Not just to the cage, but Doffy overall.

He is either idiot (which is Canon, but he isn't this stupid) or admits he couldn't do anything to it. Hence why he decide to push and not to cut it.

When it concerns Zoro or Sanji... none of you guys make sense. That's the truth Zoro is underestimated and Sanji is overestimated

 

[LaGOAT]

I guess fujitora is weaker than DD since he didn’t cut birdcage

 

[Fox666]

I think it was obvious that nobody could cut the Bird Cage. Not even Fujitora could do it, despite the citizens almost dying.

Because it is showing them pushing it, not trying to cut it.

I'm sure that pushing a blade against something counts as "cutting".

If you have any doubt, pick a knife in your kitchen and try it on your hand.

 

[LaGOAT]

I think it was obvious that nobody could cut the Bird Cage. Not even Fujitora could do it, despite the citizens almost dying.


I'm sure that pushing a blade against something counts as "cutting".

If you have any doubt, pick a knife in your kitchen and try it on your hand.

The problem is was fujitora trying too? If he was then ur saying that birdcage isn’t even capable for an admiral level tier to cut and by that logic luffy can’t cut it either

 

[Shasha23]

How is my logic getting warped? I'm asking why the STRONGEST SWORDSMAN IN DRESSROSA didn't think to cut the strings that made up Birdcage?

It doesnt make fucking sense that he didnt try to cut it! He's a swordsman for fucksake lol how does that make sense to you?


So either Zoro is an idiot or couldn't cut the strings....

PIS and CIS where in play, why are you even asking me to explain this, im not Oda!
He didnt cut the cage the same reason Fujitora didnt or the same reason Zoro or Sabo didnt rush Doffy and end him while Luffy was recovering.

For you to even be asking this silly questions is why im starting to thing this year was extra hard on you!

 

[ThatOtherGuy]

Guys, cutting or not cutting birdcage has nothing to do with beating Doffy, since most of Doffy's strings aren't that durable.

Parasite may also be broken using Ni Gorilla or Asura, since G4 broke it very easily.

But, Doflamingo needs multiple attacks from something like G4, and we have never seen Asura last that long.

 

[Pirate Queen]

PIS and CIS where in play, why are you even asking me to explain this, im not Oda!
He didnt cut the cage the same reason Fujitora didnt or the same reason Zoro or Sabo didnt rush Doffy and end him while Luffy was recovering.

For you to even be asking this silly questions is why im starting to thing this year was extra hard on you!

Your brushing it off because it doesnt make sense. This year has been great to me. Luffy is about to lead an assault against a Yonko. This year has been fantastic for Luffy fans.

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The problem is was fujitora trying too? If he was then ur saying that birdcage isn’t even capable for an admiral level tier to cut and by that logic luffy can’t cut it either

No he wasn't he placed his faith in Luffy defeating Doflamingo.

 

[Shasha23]

Your brushing it off because it doesnt make sense. This year has been great to me. Luffy is about to lead an assault against a Yonko.

Yes it was stupid that Oda didnt just make Zoro or Sabo fish Doffy after Leo Bazoka failed, so trying to find logical answers from us fans is your problem

This year has been fantastic for Luffy fans.

The nonsense your posting this days says otherwise

No he wasn't he placed his faith in Luffy defeating Doflamingo.

Same can apply to Zoro and Sabo

 

[Pirate Queen]

Yes it was stupid that Oda didnt just make Zoro or Sabo fish Doffy after Leo Bazoka failed, so trying to find logical answers from us fans is your problem



The nonsense your posting this days says otherwise



Same can apply to Zoro and Sabo

Sabo had his own mission and Zoro was struggling to punch Birdcage... the same could not be said for Fuji, who said that he was leaving it to the Pirates to liberate Dressrosa

I'm asking you to use your brain and ask yourself why Zoro a master swordsman didn't bother to cut birdcage like spaghetti? I know your not Oda.

I KNOW why Oda didn't have Zoro cut the birdcage ( ITS BECAUSE HE COULDN'T) You clearly can't put 2 and 2 together.

 

[Shasha23]

Sabo had his own mission and Zoro was struggling to punch Birdcage... the same could not be said for Fuji, who said that he was leaving it to the Pirates to liberate Dressrosa

PIS

'm asking you to use your brain and ask yourself why Zoro a master swordsman didn't bother to cut birdcage like spaghetti? I know your not Oda.

Why are you so insistand in asking me stupid quetions?
How the fack should i know how Oda thinks

I KNOW why Oda didn't have Zoro cut the birdcage ( ITS BECAUSE HE COULDN'T) You clearly can't put 2 and 2 together.

So Oda told you this when exactly

 

[Sachsenhesse]

This year has been fantastic for Luffy fans.

 

[ThatOtherGuy]

Sabo had his own mission and Zoro was struggling to punch Birdcage... the same could not be said for Fuji, who said that he was leaving it to the Pirates to liberate Dressrosa

I'm asking you to use your brain and ask yourself why Zoro a master swordsman didn't bother to cut birdcage like spaghetti? I know your not Oda.

I KNOW why Oda didn't have Zoro cut the birdcage ( ITS BECAUSE HE COULDN'T) You clearly can't put 2 and 2 together.

Did Luffy break birdcage? No.

Did Luffy beat Mingo? Yes.

Was it stated that the only way to undo birdcage is to beat Mingo? Yes.

Therefore, it is not necessary to be able to cut birdcage to beat Mingo.

That is not to say that Zoro can beat Mingo, but rather that Zoro's ability to cut birdcage is irrelevant to his strength. Birdcage is an absurd asspull that was made up so we don't notice that it achieves the exact same result as the time bomb from Alabasta.

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@Sachsenhesse fix your quote man, I didn't say that.

 

[Pirate Queen]

Lol and that's supposed to upset Luffy fans?

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Lol and that's supposed to upset Luffy fans?

I'd rate that as one of the coolest moments of the year... see the difference is that Luffy fans can admit when his isn't all that.

Go look at my comments when that happened. I said "That's what Luffy gets for thinking he could wreck a Yonko like that"

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Did Luffy break birdcage? No.

Did Luffy beat Mingo? Yes.

Was it stated that the only way to undo birdcage is to beat Mingo? Yes.

Therefore, it is not necessary to be able to cut birdcage to beat Mingo.

That is not to say that Zoro can beat Mingo, but rather that Zoro's ability to cut birdcage is irrelevant to his strength. Birdcage is an absurd asspull that was made up so we don't notice that it achieves the exact same result as the time bomb from Alabasta.

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@Sachsenhesse fix your quote man, I didn't say that.

So you can at least admit Birdcage couldnt be cut without defeating Doflamingo... which was the point I am making.

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PIS



Why are you so insistand in asking me stupid quetions?
How the fack should i know how Oda thinks



So Oda told you this when exactly

Yes... because I can read and use my eyes and use reading comprehension where you are clearly lacking. "How the fack should I know..." is the most sense you've made today

 

[Shasha23]

Yes... because I can read and use my eyes and use reading comprehension where you are clearly lacking. "How the fack should I know..." is the most sense you've made today

Thanks for the compliment

 

[LaGOAT]

@Lexusflame @King Moe irrelevant putting ur trust in luffy doesn’t mean he shouldn’t try to destroy birdcage

 

[ThatOtherGuy]

So you can at least admit Birdcage couldnt be cut without defeating Doflamingo... which was the point I am making.

I'm agreeing with you then.

(it's kinda off topic though)