Discussion Zoro Discussion Thread

[Nie Li]

So he did not have struggle fight with neither especially Daz Bones who was ripping his body to sure add with his attacks and tanking them? How's that illogical?

Zoro struggled with Daz Bones but Ryuma's zombie was an easy fight for him. A very easy fight.

It would have been different if that was the real Ryuma, but Book's shadow was a huge nerf for him.

Lol to bottom post as no he wasn't and got dominated in most of the fight. He is all on skill, not on numbers and that is a fact. Otherwise would use 3 swords to finish Daz Bones, but didn't.

He didn't have 3 swords when he defeated Daz Bones and he didn't have 3 swords when he defeated Ryuma.

He defeated them with less swords because he couldn't use more, not because he chose to.

 

[goldb]

So he did not have struggle fight with neither especially Daz Bones who was ripping his body to sure add with his attacks and tanking them? How's that illogical?

I was laughing at the "Dad Bones" typo, which is why eefrit made the "Skull joke" post.

 

[King Moe]

What’s funny is Moe does to Zoro what he accused everyone else of doing to Sanji for the past Year n some change...Wow talk about hypocritical.

Zoro has stated many of times when he doesn’t have 3 swords that he doesn’t feel right, or isn’t at full power.

Zoro’s worst style Pre time skip was Ittoryu, he didn’t like to use only 1 sword. 2 Swords he has tons of power attacks & with 3 he’s at full power.

Post Time skip. Zoro still needs his 3 swords to be at full power. But he is much more comfortable with 1 sword or 2.

Zoro as a SN & Luffy’s 2nd in command is getting his just due. Standing besides Luffy amongst the SN. While his captain has teamed up with 3 other SN so far, Zoro has fought 3 of them & shown his dominance. Also threatened X-Drake before allying with him.

Zoro is facing Kaido period. It doesn’t matter if the other SN are there, he will stand in front of Kaido & got toe to toe with him, whether he’s assisting his captain or another SN. There will be circumstances in this fight where Zoro will clash alone to mess Kaido’s ****** Up!

Seems hypocritical on your side than mine to be honest. Zoro isn't on Luffy's level at all for one. That is Canon as gap between them is almost an Ocean.

While he does favor 3 sword style he is as strong on any of the other styles. Skill been most important thing on swordsman than numbers. Even Mihawk states about it while beating him with just a knife to his 3 swords.

Going to club down by Kaido as his attacks are not doing much given Luffy's attacks couldn't at all before Adv. COA. Being in team fight takes away if he can do damage solo and we all know that unless you ready to admit Kamazou and Gyukimaro are stronger than Zoro given they got him to faint.

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Zoro struggled with Daz Bones but Ryuma's zombie was an easy fight for him. A very easy fight.

It would have been different if that was the real Ryuma, but Book's shadow was a huge nerf for him.



He didn't have 3 swords when he defeated Daz Bones and he didn't have 3 swords when he defeated Ryuma.

He defeated them with less swords because he couldn't use more, not because he chose to.

Nah he really struggle with both of them and use skill to beat them after all of it. 3 swords aren't always his full power on them in those fights.

It is because he choose to on Dad Bones as he still have 3 swords on him and yet choose one sword instead. That been proof it is skill over number of swords each time.

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I was laughing at the "Dad Bones" typo, which is why eefrit made the "Skull joke" post.

Ah I see, my bad on that.

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Y'all have to give Moe some credit. Despite being wrong on every topic he's spoken about. He's remained consistent.

Moe v the world ftw

Not really wrong on any of what you thinking. Though still waiting answer on another thread. Guess I take your silence as being wrong then.

 

[Ramen]

Not really wrong on any of what you thinking. Though still waiting answer on another thread. Guess I take your silence as being wrong then.

No lol. Admin told me to stop so I did.

Being silent =/= giving concession. This is an elementary philosophical idea.

 

[Nie Li]

This is exasperating.

While he does favor 3 sword style he is as strong on any of the other styles. Skill been most important thing on swordsman than numbers. Even Mihawk states about it while beating him with just a knife to his 3 swords.

Mihawk never said anything like what you're saying. And him defeating Zoro with a knife has nothing to do with the discussion.

Spoiler: Chapter 1000

Going to club down by Kaido as his attacks are not doing much given Luffy's attacks couldn't at all before Adv. COA.

Wait for next chapter before talking about his attacks not doing much. The fight hasn't even started yet so you don't know how it will turn out.

Being in team fight takes away if he can do damage solo and we all know that unless you ready to admit Kamazou and Gyukimaro are stronger than Zoro given they got him to faint.

Wrong.

1- Dealing good damage to Kaido would be an impressive feat even if it's a team-fight. Nobody's saying that Zoro will be stronger than Kaido if he defeats him. That's not what people have told you on this forum. It would simply be impressive, nothing more, nothing less.

The scabbards didn't manage to hurt him in a significant way and they were 9 vs 1. If Zoro deals good damage in a 5 vs 2 it will be a huge feat. Period.

2- Stop bringing the Kamazou fight out of context.

Even if you choose to ignore that Zoro fainted because of hunger and even if you want to ignore that Zoro was missing a sword.
So, even if you want to believe that Zoro was defeated by Kamazou and Gyukimaru: Kamazou was still defeated by Zoro before he fainted, so of course he's not stronger than Zoro if he was knocked out in a 1 vs 2.

Either way, since nobody is saying Zoro is stronger than Kaido, there's no reason to conclude Kamazou is stronger than Zoro, and that fight has nothing to do with this topic.

Nah he really struggle with both of them and use skill to beat them after all of it. 3 swords aren't always his full power on them in those fights.

He did not struggle against Ryuma. At all. He was missing a sword and he still had an easy time with him. He was impressed by Ryuma's strength, but he was never in any real trouble.

It is because he choose to on Dad Bones as he still have 3 swords on him and yet choose one sword instead. That been proof it is skill over number of swords each time.

Read the fight again. Zoro didn't have his three swords when he defeated Daddy Bones.

Mr.1 was so close to defeat Zoro that Zoro's swords flew out of his hands. He located only one of them (apparently through CoO) under some rocks nearby and picked it up. The other two swords weren't at his disposal so he used a one-sword technique. But it was not by choice.[/QUOTE]

 

[goldb]

Spoiler tags please, boys.

 

[King Moe]

This is exasperating.


Mihawk never said anything like what you're saying. And him defeating Zoro with a knife has nothing to do with the discussion.

Spoiler: Chapter 1000

Wait for next chapter before talking about his attacks not doing much. The fight hasn't even started yet so you don't know how it will turn out.



Wrong.

1- Dealing good damage to Kaido would be an impressive feat even if it's a team-fight. Nobody's saying that Zoro will be stronger than Kaido if he defeats him. That's not what people have told you on this forum. It would simply be impressive, nothing more, nothing less.

The scabbards didn't manage to hurt him in a significant way and they were 9 vs 1. If Zoro deals good damage in a 5 vs 2 it will be a huge feat. Period.

2- Stop bringing the Kamazou fight out of context.

Even if you choose to ignore that Zoro fainted because of hunger and even if you want to ignore that Zoro was missing a sword.
So, even if you want to believe that Zoro was defeated by Kamazou and Gyukimaru: Kamazou was still defeated by Zoro before he fainted, so of course he's not stronger than Zoro if he was knocked out in a 1 vs 2.

Either way, since nobody is saying Zoro is stronger than Kaido, there's no reason to conclude Kamazou is stronger than Zoro, and that fight has nothing to do with this topic.

He did not struggle against Ryuma. At all. He was missing a sword and he still had an easy time with him. He was impressed by Ryuma's strength, but he was never in any real trouble.


Read the fight again. Zoro didn't have his three swords when he defeated Daddy Bones.

Mr.1 was so close to defeat Zoro that Zoro's swords flew out of his hands. He located only one of them (apparently through CoO) under some rocks nearby and picked it up. The other two swords weren't at his disposal so he used a one-sword technique. But it was not by choice.

We had this talk before. Not going back and forth when we just going to agree and disagree. Never common ground we can agree on.

Spoiler

Kaido will not be defeated by Zoro nor the damage he gets from him won't stop him. Luffy is main one to do most damage and defeat him. It's too important to Luffy and doesn't make sense on Zoro. No it's not showing much given Kaido tanks attacks for fun as he let them like Scabbards. If Zoro gets a hit in, it won't be enough at all and not a feat if someone let's you attack them as well.

 

[M3J]

This is exasperating.

Then stop arguing, you should know by now that it's a waste of time. He'll find all and any sorts of way to downplay Zoro, especially in revenge for how Sanji's been treated.

 

[King Moe]

Then stop arguing, you should know by now that it's a waste of time. He'll find all and any sorts of way to downplay Zoro, especially in revenge for how Sanji's been treated.

Who say revenge for Sanji? He just not fighting women. He going to come up there to fight with Kaido and possible with Sanji, Zoro, and Jimbei take on King, Queen, and Jack.

I downplay Zoro beating 2 Yonkos and able to do most damage when Luffy couldn't do it before Adv. COA. Nothing wrong to be logical on the situation.

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No lol. Admin told me to stop so I did.

Being silent =/= giving concession. This is an elementary philosophical idea.

Idk about that. Seems like you haven't at all. Can we move on please.

 

[Ramen]

@The Prince of Darkness Who'd you like to see Zoro fight? I know there he wants to go to Kaido but I want him to fight King or have a 1v1.

I want Kaido to be a team fight between Luffy, the Scabbards, and Law. Kidd too.

 

[King Moe]

Queen vs Zoro looks more plausible given he can't fly to get King. Feel it best for battle on Land and would like to see it. Teaming up on someone won't do much on what he can do on his own.

 

[The Prince of Darkness]

Zoro's gonna reach the billion Bounty after this arc and injuring a Yonko and defeating a Billion Bounty YC is his way to that.
Luffy : +2B Bounty
Zoro : +1B Bounty
Sanji & Jinbei : +800M
Robin : +300M
Ussop : +300M
Franky : +200M
Nami & Brook : +100M
Chopper : meh like always
(Yamato : + - 500M)

 

[Ramen]

Zoro's gonna reach the billion Bounty after this arc and injuring a Yonko and defeating a Billion Bounty YC is his way to that.
Luffy : +2B Bounty
Zoro : +1B Bounty
Sanji & Jinbei : +800M
Robin : +300M
Ussop : +300M
Franky : +200M
Nami & Brook : +100M
Chopper : meh like always
(Yamato : + - 500M)

That'd be nice.

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@nik87 I see you lurking

 

[nik87]

@nik87 I see you lurking

Once a week or two, yes. These are fun times in Zoro's arc.
And regarding Zoro bounty, go wild and Oda will still exceed our expectations - 3.2Bil Bery.

 

[Ramen]

Once a week or two, yes. These are fun times in Zoro's arc.

Why you leave us for Worstgen?

And regarding Zoro bounty, go wild and Oda will still exceed our expectations - 3.2Bil Bery.

A bit too high imo.

 

[The Prince of Darkness]

Why you leave us for Worstgen?



A bit too high imo.

In all logics he's new Bounty will be between 900M and 1.5B

 

[Ramen]

In all logics he's new Bounty will be between 900M and 1.5B

Most likely. And Luffy will be 2-2.5 B

 

[The Prince of Darkness]

Luffy will be 2-2.5 B

I think him reaching 3B wouldn't be impossible too.
Law and Kidd we'll be 1.5 to 2B
But Luffy could be 2B to 3B

 

[Ramen]

Law and Kidd we'll be 1.5 to 2B

Are they even near 1B?

3 B could be the case if both Yonko go down and he's credited with leading the victory.

 

[The Prince of Darkness]

Are they even near 1B?

3 B could be the case if both Yonko go down and he's credited with leading the victory.

Law is 500M and Kidd +400M

Should we talk about Luffy here?
If Kaido go down and BM run away, the WG will say he was the leader of that war and give the last blow to Kaido made BM run away so he'll be consider one of the Yonko who fought 2 of them so 3B wouldn't be impossible