Discussion Zoro Discussion Thread

[Sachsenhesse]

Hold off on that one until we see what Zoro's Asura can do.

Until then, you agree with this point?

 

[M3J]

In any case, Emma is a sword that forcibly draws out ZOro's own haki. It doesn't really enhance Zoro's own power, and even if it did, Zoro still has to learn how to master the blade. It's his own power and skill that allows him to do that.

 

[ish3]

I’m curious if the fight against kaido is going to continue with just the 5 sn or will that change soon. I want to see zoro truly tested in a one on one. We can play the feats game all day and power scale but we haven’t seen zoro truly struggle in a match since pre timeskip. Nothing greater than watching your fav up against someone they stand no chance to only evolve mid fight. It gets boring to see your fav never struggle.

I’m starting to believe zoro benefitted from training with Mihawk too much. I’m starting to miss his matches that start where he’s even handicapped and I used to dread those. If not I expect him to gain a new scar or possibly hurt from kaido if he doesn’t have any one on one match which gives him said handicap in the next arc. Otherwise he looks ready to fight Mihawk to me. There’s no hint of any other swordsman even close to him but shanks before he lost his arm. Maybe their one on one gets settled early into the next arc.

 

[nik87]

I want to see zoro truly tested in a one on one.

We might get that once Kaido defeats the other 4 Supernovas.
Sounds like a fitting time to pull out Asura to hold out alone vs Kaido until the 4 are back up on their feet.

 

[Ramen]

We might get that once Kaido defeats the other 4 Supernovas.

Only people that can truly test Zoro's swords are Prime WB and Roger in a 2v1......and that's a maybe

 

[nik87]

Only people that can truly test Zoro's swords are Prime WB and Roger in a 2v1......and that's a maybe

 

[Pirate Queen]

Whitebeard and Roger Extreme diff Pre PRIME Zoro at best

 

[King Moe]

Wonder if we can ever be serious when doing a discussion on Zoro without use of headcannon.

 

[ish3]

We might get that once Kaido defeats the other 4 Supernovas.
Sounds like a fitting time to pull out Asura to hold out alone vs Kaido until the 4 are back up on their feet.

If he was the main character I’d agree but I highly doubt it. Zoro fighting shanks one on one makes more sense than kaido simply due to his relation to Mihawk and nothing else.

Now even if that were the case no matter who does the final blow or a “one on one” with kaido their feat is diminished by their excessive assistance. A real one on one is preferable that way there can be no doubt to how strong he actually is. These superficial feats don’t mean anything to me. They’re cool but nothing definitive. Just like Luffys red rock hitting kaido or sanji kicking oven and disappearing. Same with cutting kaido. Zoros what the third or fourth person to do so in wano? Cutting kaido just isn’t as special as we thought it was. It’s baseless without a true k.o. or at least blows being traded back and forth.

 

[nik87]

Cutting kaido just isn’t as special as we thought it was.

Quite the contrary. It is more impressive than we thought.
Cutting him and cutting him enough are two different worlds.
The cuts from Scabbards and Zoro splitting Kaido into pieces are not in the same galaxy.
Nothing about it is diminished, nobody is helping Zoro to cut him, he does it on his own.

 

[King Moe]

Quite the contrary. It is more impressive than we thought.
Cutting him and cutting him enough are two different worlds.
The cuts from Scabbards and Zoro splitting Kaido into pieces are not in the same galaxy.
Nothing about it is diminished, nobody is helping Zoro to cut him, he does it on his own.

Enma is. We all know magical sword it is given why Oda calling it out more from what Big Mom and Kaido stated on how sword is. Though even with that, he isn't beating Kaido given Luffy vs Kaido is something he build too much to change that especially Luffy to prove himself.

 

[nik87]

Watch them hide in their caves again since Oda is focusing on the only battle that matters, with grandmaster pulling out more of his power little by little

It is actually scary how powerful he might be once he pulls Asura...
I guess Oda wants his name to reach the heavens already.
Post Wano bounty will be interesting.

 

[King Moe]

Wonder how Zoro isn't without a magical sword. It's clear Enma is one for the abilities, so making me feel it's situational. Makes me wonder what characters with Haki greater to Zoro can do with it.

 

[Shasha23]

Wonder how Zoro isn't without a magical sword. It's clear Enma is one for the abilities, so making me feel it's situational. Makes me wonder what characters with Haki greater to Zoro can do with it.

which character has haki greater to Zoro and the skill to use Enma?
I know a few just want to see if the characters I'm thinking of are the same as yours.

 

[King Moe]

which character has haki greater to Zoro and the skill to use Enma?
I know a few just want to see if the characters I'm thinking of are the same as yours.

I can list many. Yonkos, Admirals, YCs, Luffy, etc..

 

[Shasha23]

I can list many. Yonkos, Admirals, YCs, Luffy, etc..

Ok so you did see them use haki that's better than Zoro before right? i mean all those people

 

[Grandmaster Woro]

To this day I dont understand why people view Enma as a power-up when it has been clear from day 1 that the whole gimmick of the sword depends on Zoro's haki and the amount of haki he wishes to release, just like he has been doing it with all his swords long before Enma...
People seem to believe that Enma is some kind of haki amplifier, which has 0 basis in the manga.

magic sword bad and cheating, magic invisibility cloak raid suit good

 

[Prxnce]

Safe to say, strongest SN on the rooftop.

Been thinking for a while Zoro could have learned Human Drill method's of copying arts and techniques - can't wait to see him use Hakai or Hakoku/Ikokku Sovereignty and everyone's face if/when he does. I genuinely do not believe we will be seeing Ashura unless it is the finishing blow.

 

[Ramen]

Safe to say, strongest SN on the rooftop.

Was there any doubt though? Who was gonna challenge them? Hawkins? Urouge?

The 5 SN + 2 Yonko are heads and shoulders above anyone else at Wano.

 

[Prxnce]

Was there any doubt though? Who was gonna challenge them? Hawkins? Urouge?

The 5 SN + 2 Yonko are heads and shoulders above anyone else at Wano.

*Zoro* strongest SN on the rooftop