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Is It a Requirement for Zoro to have Conqueror's Haki?


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I would say Luffy still strongest and Idk on Zoro there as seemingly if he is first to be inactive unlike the rest, then Kidd and Law are above him while Killer is debatable.

Though props on his performance of what he is capable of
 

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I would say Luffy still strongest and Idk on Zoro there as seemingly if he is first to be inactive unlike the rest, then Kidd and Law are above him while Killer is debatable.

Though props on his performance of what he is capable of
"Props to Zoro but let's diminish him based on all this context I'm choosing to ignore".

I'd like to see Kid, Law or Killer take on the combined Yonkou attack Zoro took on and still keep fighting. Or any of the three leaving a scar on Kaido.

Based on feats, Zoro is below Luffy, but definitely not below Kid or Law, much less Killer.
 

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"Props to Zoro but let's diminish him based on all this context I'm choosing to ignore".

I'd like to see Kid, Law or Killer take on the combined Yonkou attack Zoro took on and still keep fighting. Or any of the three leaving a scar on Kaido.

Based on feats, Zoro is below Luffy, but definitely not below Kid or Law, much less Killer.
I would say in same line with Kidd and Law as we can't ignore they took Big Mom out of the fight while Zoro haven't harm Big Mom and Kaido still ineffective from attacks except mostly on Luffy, but not to say others attacks not doing anything, but it's clear Luffy, Kidd and Law are portray more than Zoro and Killer who are subordinates to their own captains

'Props to Zoro, but lets' ignore he isn't fighting in a team fight with others. Law didn't save him. It was his own skill.'
(Don't do this to yourself, Elessar.)
 

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I would say in same line with Kidd and Law as we can't ignore they took Big Mom out of the fight while Zoro haven't harm Big Mom and Kaido still ineffective from attacks except mostly on Luffy, but not to say others attacks not doing anything, but it's clear Luffy, Kidd and Law are portray more than Zoro and Killer who are subordinates to their own captains

'Props to Zoro, but lets' ignore he isn't fighting in a team fight with others. Law didn't save him. It was his own skill.'
(Don't do this to yourself, Elessar.)
Who is ignoring this is a team fight?
Zoro got the biggest durability feat during this fight and none of those three seem capable of doing the same. If they can, they at least haven't shown anything remotely similar.

It's also been confirmed that he hasn't been pushed to use Ashura during the whole post-TS series. Things like "he used his one of his strongest attacks against Apoo and it didn't work" got debunked.

And he's also the only person on that rooftop to have given Kaido a new scar. Yes, Luffy is stronger than him and is dealing more damage overall, but Kid, Law and Killer? Not at all.
Props to Kid, Law, Killer and Zoro for taking Big Mom out of the rooftop ¨(as it was a team strategy between the four of them), but that is not a strength-related feat, that was just Law's intelligent plan and in no way compares to Zoro's actual recent feats.

Luffy is the only person on that rooftop portrayed as clearly stronger than Zoro, and the fact that the most you can do is saying that "Killer is debatable" highlights just how biased against Zoro you are. You could debate Law, at most Kid, but the clearly inferior Killer is the one that you find "debatable".

Look beyond your hate for the character and coldly compare the feats. Nothing more to add.
 

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Zoro is goat. He destroys any other SN aside from Luffy.

There is no monster trio. It's now Monster duo and Sanji.
Nah, he is subordinate, he not going to be stronger than certain rivals and enemies to Luffy. That is clear fact and Kidd and Law given their performance are proving them are above.

Nah, Sanji still Monster Trio. Idk why you need to mention him when we talking on Zoro. I give him props, but doesn't mean Zoro is on another level away from Trio.
 

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great feat from zoro who just opened a new scar on hybrid kaido
and ashura post timeskip is canon. So zoro has been nerfed throughout timeskip 😏
 

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Zoro gets MVP for SN Vs Yonkou’s.


What I love about Zoro; is personality wise how he handles being Luffy’s 1st mate, Ever since Thriller Bark, before & after. As soon as His Captain stepped on the Roof, Zoro was watching his back the whole time!

Whenever BM tried to catch Luffy in between him attacking Kaido....Zoro was there protecting Luffy multiple times....Even against Kaido himself Zoro protected his captain, from the 1st boro breathe, saved him from being chewed up..His assaults & clashes with Kaido,

There’s a reason Zoro is so hype. It’s not just because he’s strong. He’s what you want your best friend to be lmao...Reliable, Strong, Wise, Loyal etc etc...

Zoro sits on top of SN; Back in Shapody, he noted that he’ll have to keep an eye out for Killer & Kidd. I don’t think Zoro is worried by them at all anymore lol. Much less Law either. He’s stronger than other SN captains, they are close but that candle handle the SH’s 1st mate
 

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Zoro gets MVP for SN Vs Yonkou’s.


What I love about Zoro; is personality wise how he handles being Luffy’s 1st mate, Ever since Thriller Bark, before & after. As soon as His Captain stepped on the Roof, Zoro was watching his back the whole time!

Whenever BM tried to catch Luffy in between him attacking Kaido....Zoro was there protecting Luffy multiple times....Even against Kaido himself Zoro protected his captain, from the 1st boro breathe, saved him from being chewed up..His assaults & clashes with Kaido,

There’s a reason Zoro is so hype. It’s not just because he’s strong. He’s what you want your best friend to be lmao...Reliable, Strong, Wise, Loyal etc etc...

Zoro sits on top of SN; Back in Shapody, he noted that he’ll have to keep an eye out for Killer & Kidd. I don’t think Zoro is worried by them at all anymore lol. Much less Law either. He’s stronger than other SN captains, they are close but that candle handle the SH’s 1st mate
When did you drop off the Luffy hype train my dude?

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When did you drop off the Luffy hype train my dude?

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I agree it’s time for the Luffy hype train to take off.

But

When ppl constantly troll or undermine how strong Zoro is. Simply because there exist a section of his fan base that overhypes him...these trolls overhype Zoro to troll/spite his story Rival or to just be extreme fan boys ...Lol

Captain & 1st Mate are the 1st of the crew and they are my favorites. So yes I enjoyed their rare team up against Kaido.
 

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Fun fact: That never happened in the manga, so it never happened.
Pretty sure it's canon filler as if I recalled, he got included within databooks or talked about in SBS afterwards, so if Oda did mention him in any of those, the scene is canon.
 

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Pretty sure it's canon filler as if I recalled, he got included within databooks or talked about in SBS afterwards, so if Oda did mention him in any of those, the scene is canon.
No. Shu, the character who rusted Yubashiri, is a canon character, and we saw in the manga how he rusted the sword, but that's everything that happened.

Zoro being incapable of defeating him and Usopp getting involved isn't canon and is anime only.
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And there are no "canon fillers". Like, there're literally 0 of those. It's not a thing. A filler is a filler.
 

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I'm a little late to say this but please don't turn this thread into a Zoro vs Sanji thread.

There's been enough of that in other threads.
 

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really looking forward for zoro to make black blade. Maybe he would show black blade feats in this arc? (to beat king or finish kaido)
 

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really looking forward for zoro to make black blade. Maybe he would show black blade feats in this arc? (to beat king or finish kaido)
I'm a little bit split about Zoro continuing to fight this arc.

On one hand, I'd love for Zoro to get healed by Law and/or Marco and/or the person who healed the Scabbards (if the Scabbards are back in the game, so can Zoro) and go on to fight King.

On the other hand, this arc is already too long as it is and there's already too little tension, so I don't really like the characters getting back up eternally, like Apoo or the Scabbards.
 

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Given how things could go, I think Zoro vs Orochi might happen more given unfinished business to want to avenge Yasu and propably Hiyori will somehow get involved. Don't think he can face off YC lvl opponent as he already prove he is YC lvl when in team fight.
 

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Nah, orochi is already dead. Seems more that nerfed zoro fighting king now
 
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