But what if those two are shit too?Two shit characters.
Eliminate both so Mira and Gray can get an automatic bye to the next round
No, I legit already said I don't
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Bruh I haven't been in an intense discussion on here for awhile but last time I debated you on this topic you were. I'm pretty sure you were one of the one's that believed he drowned before he got KO and that argument is only enforced by Jellal fans lol.
Not then, only now because you want to downplay Gears because Jellal fought him.No, I legit already said I don't
Tf? I already said Metro's main body was trash countless times before. But continue on with your own narrative ig
Yea I believe that because that's what happened lol. That doesn't make me his fan, there are very few characters I like in this series and Jellal sure as hell isn't one of them.
I agree on the portrayal, not on the formKiria didn't get hit once by Erza in their first encounter and she was fodderize later on, two Erza clearly held back and the battle was used for jokes, three bind snake only works on offguard opponents and four Erza already proven suceptible to hax like Macro countless times b4 hand so no bind snake is not better than macro. It is actually pretty garbage bcs it needs set up while Macro doesn't. Finally, Jellal blocked an attack meant for a half dead Wendy. Acno only uses force necessary enough to kill his opponents so he blocked a Wendy killer attack. Oh and Wendy actually tanked Acno hits from an enhanced Acno later on along with Rogue and several other characters. So not impressive in the slightest. He has a shield that can block a slightly above Base Wendy level attack
I like how macro was brought in when no one was even talking about it either.
Now let bring back consistent feats. Beat up Gears who straight scales to fodder. One got beat by Base Gray (who went through two battles beforehand) and Juvia (fodder), and the other two got beat up by legit fodder. Yeah, the fact that he needed GC to win and was beat up prior by guy who is legit fodder is surprisingly poor showing. Then we move back to Neinheart in which he was too slow to fully react to Neinheart's fodder attack and got KOed from it. An enhanced Neinheart failed to KO Lucy and Happy with a far stronger attack.
Let's move back to current now in which we use feats from a toying around Erza. Toying around Erza is Kiria level, how do we know this bcs every single time Erza toys around she legit gets beat up by people she could fodderize. Kagura, Minerva, Ikagura, Kiria, and so on and so forth. The only thing that matter is when Erza takes a fight seriously which is usually in R2 of a fight and Laxus did that which is why she was forced to used her best stuff in R1 lol.
Imagine a decade worth of feats and all it amounts to is having a joke battle with Erza, and blocking an attack from Jobberlogia. Same jobberlogia who couldn't even kill a Natsu who just came out of a fight with Zeref in which he lost the use of one arm and used most of his magic up.
You guys just summed up for me why Jellal is the most unimpressive "high" tier character in FT. Instead of objectively looking at his mediocre feats, we hear about is made up fan portrayal which has amounted to nothing in the past decade.
I bring up actual feats and all you guys do is shout fan portrayal or he blocked Jobberlogia like that is supposed to be impressive. Oh and the good ol' dismissiveness of anti feats to the point Jello fans try to say he got knocked out by anchor instead of admitting he got knocked out by Neinheart. Then we have Jellal fans who think he is impressive for oneshotting a S12, but that same S12 was oneshotted while in enhanced by Basic Natsu punch. Basic FD >= a charged up GC. The man is pathetic in feats and is only held up on a pedestal from fan made portrayal and straight up wank. Jellal bias is real. Majority of this thread shows that.
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You don't instantly lose consciousness while drowning even Kagura wasn't unconscious and she was practically in the same boat as he was.
Thank you.I agree on the portrayal, not on the form
Yes, for me, Jellal was a good wizard in the past but he had no feats since long. His ultimate one was vs Jura but this portrayal of one of the strongest wizard in GmG explode when he had "hard time" with Orascion Seis whose Magic were in Chronostasis.
Yes, Erza always jobs at the beginning of a fight, until being more serious and reverses the situation. At climax PoF she can OS a foe who fodderized her when she was jobbing. So, Yes, I understand you.
I still do respect Jellal for his versatility but he isn't currently at Erza nor Laxus's level anymore. That was in the past and then, not sure he really was.
Yes, Erza's jobbing vs Jellal was same as Erza jobbing vs Kyria. We know the gap between serious Erza who put Laxus at his best RL to rival her and the jobbing one who same Laxus OS her Lightning Empress Armor as well as Kyria with classic lightning wich is, far weaker. The gap is huge.
I can say
Laxus RL = Erza (serious) >>> Kyria = Jellal = Jobbing Erza.
after Jellal clears this round. The man who made Acno go dragon form with his GC. So I found this wonderful quote from none other than master debater @Jko. I'll bold the part.He said, "Acno only uses the necessary force to kill the opponent". It must have been really necessary for him to become a dragon. @Jko has also indirectly acknowledged Jellal's greatness who are we to speak.Kiria didn't get hit once by Erza in their first encounter and she was fodderize later on, two Erza clearly held back and the battle was used for jokes, three bind snake only works on offguard opponents and four Erza already proven suceptible to hax like Macro countless times b4 hand so no bind snake is not better than macro. It is actually pretty garbage bcs it needs set up while Macro doesn't. Finally, Jellal blocked an attack meant for a half dead Wendy. Acno only uses force necessary enough to kill his opponents so he blocked a Wendy killer attack. Oh and Wendy actually tanked Acno hits from an enhanced Acno later on along with Rogue and several other characters. So not impressive in the slightest. He has a shield that can block a slightly above Base Wendy level attack
I like how macro was brought in when no one was even talking about it either.
Now let bring back consistent feats. Beat up Gears who straight scales to fodder. One got beat by Base Gray (who went through two battles beforehand) and Juvia (fodder), and the other two got beat up by legit fodder. Yeah, the fact that he needed GC to win and was beat up prior by guy who is legit fodder is surprisingly poor showing. Then we move back to Neinheart in which he was too slow to fully react to Neinheart's fodder attack and got KOed from it. An enhanced Neinheart failed to KO Lucy and Happy with a far stronger attack.
Let's move back to current now in which we use feats from a toying around Erza. Toying around Erza is Kiria level, how do we know this bcs every single time Erza toys around she legit gets beat up by people she could fodderize. Kagura, Minerva, Ikagura, Kiria, and so on and so forth. The only thing that matter is when Erza takes a fight seriously which is usually in R2 of a fight and Laxus did that which is why she was forced to used her best stuff in R1 lol.
Imagine a decade worth of feats and all it amounts to is having a joke battle with Erza, and blocking an attack from Jobberlogia. Same jobberlogia who couldn't even kill a Natsu who just came out of a fight with Zeref in which he lost the use of one arm and used most of his magic up.
You guys just summed up for me why Jellal is the most unimpressive "high" tier character in FT. Instead of objectively looking at his mediocre feats, we hear about is made up fan portrayal which has amounted to nothing in the past decade.
I bring up actual feats and all you guys do is shout fan portrayal or he blocked Jobberlogia like that is supposed to be impressive. Oh and the good ol' dismissiveness of anti feats to the point Jello fans try to say he got knocked out by anchor instead of admitting he got knocked out by Neinheart. Then we have Jellal fans who think he is impressive for oneshotting a S12, but that same S12 was oneshotted while in enhanced by Basic Natsu punch. Basic FD >= a charged up GC. The man is pathetic in feats and is only held up on a pedestal from fan made portrayal and straight up wank. Jellal bias is real. Majority of this thread shows that.
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Erza is sweating. She must have got bit tired after blocking full force slash from Jellal.
Yeah, bcs context doesn't matter. This is just sad.Self-destruction circle and Erza is destroyed. We will
He said, "Acno only uses the necessary force to kill the opponent". It must have been really necessary for him to become a dragon. @Jko has also indirectly acknowledged Jellal's greatness who are we to speak.
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Erza is sweating. She must have got bit tired after blocking full force slash from Jellal.
Nah It was necessary for him like you have said.Yeah, bcs context doesn't matter. This is just sad.
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Nah, I never said he kills in every single one of his attacks. In that moment he only meant to kill Wendy and thus only use the neccessary force on her which is why I stated he only uses the neccessary force to kill his opponent. Like I said, context matters.
Exactly he needed to kill Wendy who is DS. But Jellal jumped in between and attacked Acno. He realized he wouldn't be able to get to Wendy(his life purpose) without turning into a dragon.
If participants are bloodlust with all they can do as potential, like climax PoF for Erza, it's not even a mid diff. It's a stomp in Erza's favour.
In 100YQ, show me where I am wrong....
You can. That prooves nothing. Neither of them will be Champion, not even in the Final. Jellal can have more fans to votes for him but Jellal has nothing in his weaponeries that can put down a tank like Erza who could withstand Laxus's enheance new magic until he was exaust.We will
POF is a made-up turn by fans there is no such thing. Tell that Mashima he would laugh at you.
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Here it is. Beautifully explained.Dodging Erza's attacks and refuting her attempts to create distance
Blitzing Erza without meteor.
Immobilizing Erza with bind snake.
Jellal is GOAT.
This is just trolling at this point.
Are you saying that human Acnologia is not strong enough to fight Jellal without turning into a Dragon ? Acno jobbed with him. Acno jobbed with every opponents who faced him.
It proves Jellal can kick Erza's ass.
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What jobberlogia is fanfiction. He never jobs when it comes to DS. There is no such thing. He is strong but not strong enough to one-shot Jellal as you think. That's why he turned into a dragon, he was desperate to kill Wendy and go after the rest of the dragons. Acno always job doesn't fly. He was pissed off at Natsu for mentioning his parents and attacked him with anger although it did nothing.
