Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Galactic Tomahawk]

I am not current with Reborn so I can't really say but I'm hearing a lot of Pokemon references (none of them positive). Is that such a big deal? Isn't Pokemon where it started for most of us anyway? Definitely so in my case. Why is it so bad that Reborn has some current Pokemon similarities?

It's not necessarily a bad idea, animal familiars aren't a new concept and it could have provided an interesting twist on the character's powers if it was handled carefully. (Albeit them popping out of magical compact boxes is pretty suspect)

But the problem is that very few of them have remotely inspired designs or abilities, and they pretty much completely overshadowed several of the characters' fighting styles.

It was at it's worst during the recent varia fight, Squalo and Belphegor barely used their (far more interesting) fighting styles over shooting their box animal at people over and over again, while Lussuria completely dropped martial arts for healing just because that's what his box weapon does. Even their main enemies had little to no ability outside of their animal's gimmick.

 

[Maxy Barnard]

didn't gokudera used to use dynamite a lot? XD

anyway i think we'll be punished by the blue names if we obsess too much over the actual series, so let's get back to weekly shonen jump perhaps in it's entirety... or something


author comments this week.... i'd like them to say that all the series i see performing poorly being ones that were just late in

 

[Galactic Tomahawk]

Indeed, that's probably more than enough on Reborn.

Kinda glad to see Neuro so high (even if it doesn't count), but otherwise this ToC was pretty terrible.

Jump fandom we need to talk.

 

[Koen]

I think the problem with the future arc (Or at least as far as i got in it) was how slow the pace was compared to the other two arcs.

The best reborn analysis that's been made. A very good a priori setting with a bad a posteriori result. You feel like you ended up in the slowest pace ever

Anyway as said, let's talk about something else

anyone who already knows what genre will be served to us with the new serie?

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

Because my luck sucks, I bet the Beezle Baby will be an episodic gag with like 1% serious action or something.

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Both series' have rather impressive laurels to rest on, not to mention established fanbases who seem to care more for cool bursts of energy and mindless action than they do for a coherent and entertaining story.

Not taking a stand either way, but I that really such a big deal? I mean I personally think you can/should have both, but there are other manga people can read if they are looking to be mentally stimulated. I mean, we all know the overall demographic. You either like it or you don't. I find it surprising that people still cannot accept these manga for what they are and what they are trying to accomplish.

ps. Not trying to sound like a jerk, sorry if I do.

 

[Rejuvenation]

Problem with that though is that certain series didn't start off as that. They have the potential to be more. Degradation of any series spanning over a long time period will no doubt frustrate anyone who isn't so blinded by the love of their series they can't see the flaws in it.

Anyway, I'm hoping that the next ToC gives me what I want to see. One Piece, Toriko, and Bakuman at 1,3, and 4. Along with Psyren in the middle tier.

Also it should be interesting to see where D.Gray-man ends up being ranked. I suspect it may get a high ranking since its been gone for so long.

 

[fujitofu]

Doesn't seem like anyone has posted this week's ToC yet, so I scanned it and the cover.

 

[Kaiten]

Also it should be interesting to see where D.Gray-man ends up being ranked. I suspect it may get a high ranking since its been gone for so long.

I think it will be unranked for eight weeks as there hasn't been anything to vote for since November.

 

[Rejuvenation]

I think it will be unranked for eight weeks as there hasn't been anything to vote for since November.

I meant after it could finally have its first few rankings. XD

Hopefully Hoshino doesn't give 15 pages per chapter again. .___.

 

[Kaiten]

I meant after it could finally have its first few rankings. XD

Hopefully Hoshino doesn't give 15 pages per chapter again. .___.

I expect little to nothing from DGM once it's ranked again. Middle of the magazine will be fine with me. I'm at the point where I'll take what I can get from Hoshino - sensei. 15 pages would be fine as long as the art's good and she makes it at least a year without another long hiatus. While I liked the plot of the pre - hiatus arc the art was rough. Really rough by DGM standards. Obviously I can understand why, in retrospect.

 

[Koen]

I think it will be unranked for eight weeks as there hasn't been anything to vote for since November.

I thought it was 8 issues but a week with no magazine after it, makes it the same. Then again there's less chapters when the rating starts when you're somewhere with double issues

 

[StrangerAtaru]

Problem with that though is that certain series didn't start off as that. They have the potential to be more. Degradation of any series spanning over a long time period will no doubt frustrate anyone who isn't so blinded by the love of their series they can't see the flaws in it.

Anyway, I'm hoping that the next ToC gives me what I want to see. One Piece, Toriko, and Bakuman at 1,3, and 4. Along with Psyren in the middle tier.

Also it should be interesting to see where D.Gray-man ends up being ranked. I suspect it may get a high ranking since its been gone for so long.

Well you will have to wait two weeks for that ranking: OP is on hiatus next week. Oda said so at the end of the latest chapter.

 

[Maxy Barnard]

well then my top 5 predictions are

Naruto
Toriko
Gintama
Bakuman
Bleach

i like predicting

 

[xi0]

I'm all caught up on Psyren now, and gee...it drastically improved over where I left off (ch 21). Glad to see it isn't doing too bad.

 

[Koen]

I'm all caught up on Psyren now, and gee...it drastically improved over where I left off (ch 21). Glad to see it isn't doing too bad.

Aha a good reason to bring some input in our section. I remember you gave it storyw.i.s.e. more chances/credits than mieru hito. Imo it deserves to be in jump for a while. This leads me to an unanwsered question you might answer: how many chaps did mieru hito have in total? I remember it had its char poll and the chapter after the poll it was cancelled

 

[Muddy]

Mieru Hito ended with chapter 57, I believe.

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

I'm all caught up on Psyren now, and gee...it drastically improved over where I left off (ch 21). Glad to see it isn't doing too bad.

I think Psyren just had to establish a few things before it could get to the real meat of the story. But even for a shonen start, it didn't do too bad. At least they didn't have it so every time they go to Psyren they beat a monster every chapter. That's the pattern most series start out with. Take Muhyo, Neuro, Bleach, etc.

 

[Googlez_kun]

Where can i read this new manga Beezle Baby??
it looks very interesting

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

well then my top 5 predictions are

Naruto
Toriko
Gintama
Bakuman
Bleach

i like predicting

I that a serious one? Because I don't see Bakuman or Gintama beating Bleach.

And if were lucky, there might be raws by this time next week. It just depends on when someone wants to do it.

 

[SSJWill4]

I that a serious one? Because I don't see Bakuman or Gintama beating Bleach.

And if were lucky, there might be raws by this time next week. It just depends on when someone wants to do it.

The last time Bakuman beat Bleach was in Issue 10, and Gintama just beat Bleach this Issue, so I don't see what you mean...it seems very feasible to me.