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Dude, Mancity actually payed 26million pounds plus a player of a higher calibre for James Milner. In contrast Portugal wanting Maradona actually seems sane. =/
 

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3-2!!!

:onoz :onoz :onoz

*Kisses Berba's forehead* What a GAME!!!!!! :nuts

Awesome stuff. Berba is finally showing his true colours!!! :XD
 

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Dude, Mancity actually payed 26million pounds plus a player of a higher calibre for James Milner. In contrast Portugal wanting Maradona actually seems sane. =/
Well, at least the guy they bought has 2 legs, two arms and is healthy. MARADONA DOES NOT HAVE BRAINCELLS, he sunk them all under the weight of his huge ego into a sea of cocaine and alcohol in his youth. So which is worst? Having a brainless guy be the strategist of the team or the absurd situation you describe? They'd actually get a higher return over their investment if they payed maradona to not coach, they'd rid the world of football of a great ego evil
 

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Well, at least the guy they bought has 2 legs, two arms and is healthy. MARADONA DOES NOT HAVE BRAINCELLS, he sunk them all under the weight of his huge ego into a sea of cocaine and alcohol in his youth. So which is worst? Having a brainless guy be the strategist of the team or the absurd situation you describe? They'd actually get a higher return over their investment if they payed maradona to not coach, they'd rid the world of football of a great ego evil
Man City have gotten caught in the trap Chelsea used to fall into. Because clubs know City have money they hold out for more than they would probably get otherwise. On the other hand look at Spurs getting Van der Vaart for a third of what City paid for Milner.

On the subject of Maradona, the guy himself has admited he has limited tactical knowledge. If Portugal want him it's not like they've not been warned.

OK, time to crap on Liverpoool. It's been 20 years since their last title and they remind me of Spurs from 30 years ago. Promising plenty but falling short. It'll be really funny if they go another 20 years without a title.
 
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From what I heard, maradona didn't even pass the coach test, got the title due to being maradona. I know portugal knows what they are getting into (at least, we assume they do) but that still does not justify the inherent stupidity of what they are doing. On another note, I do think maradona would be a decent coach assistant. Surprisingly, even though argentina was about as functional as a 70 year old rusty car, they were unquestionably a very united team; there was a lot of camaraderie there. If maradona could do that for another team while at the same time having a good coach (who'd ignore each and maradona's every thought involving tactics and whatnot) then you could perhaps get a good combination. Of course, we are talking about maradona (who acts as if he still was the best player of the world rather than a retired former best player) so it is unlikely he would accept such a thing.
 

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Spurs lost against Arsenal in ET. :(

Everton are in serious trouble this season. I think Moyes will be managing somewhere else next year tbh. The guy deserves a better shot/role at another club imo.

Vidic will be captain Utd for the whole season! :D
 

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From what I heard, maradona didn't even pass the coach test, got the title due to being maradona. I know portugal knows what they are getting into (at least, we assume they do) but that still does not justify the inherent stupidity of what they are doing. On another note, I do think maradona would be a decent coach assistant. Surprisingly, even though argentina was about as functional as a 70 year old rusty car, they were unquestionably a very united team; there was a lot of camaraderie there. If maradona could do that for another team while at the same time having a good coach (who'd ignore each and maradona's every thought involving tactics and whatnot) then you could perhaps get a good combination. Of course, we are talking about maradona (who acts as if he still was the best player of the world rather than a retired former best player) so it is unlikely he would accept such a thing.
The problem with Maradona is he has no plan B. They'd be better off getting Sven in. Hence why Argentina got raped even worse than England did against Germany. Argentina looked better than they were because they got drawn against 1) Nigeria: A team of old men. 2) South Korea: The second best of a poor group. If Nigeria had been paying attention SK would have gone out in the group stage. 3) Greece: With only one (tainted) win in their world cup finals history this was never going to happen. I'm surprised it was only 2-0. 4) Mexico: They got lucky with several decisions in this match. Very lucky. The signs are there. Portugal haven't even got that great a squad. A group of individually talented players yes, but not a squad capable of winning major honours.
Spurs lost against Arsenal in ET. :(
For the umpteenth time in my lifetime. Meh. Funny how when both mangers thought the tie was in danger they brought out the big guns. So much for it being a hinderance.

Everton are in serious trouble this season. I think Moyes will be managing somewhere else next year tbh. The guy deserves a better shot/role at another club imo.
Everton have been in serious trouble ever since Howard Kendal left the first time round. It's just sheer luck and the fact that there always seems to be 7 or 8 teams worse than them every season that's kept them from getting relegated over the last 20 years (94 and 95 especially). Moyes has just held back the rot by somehow getting Everton to overperform.
 

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IMO maradona didn't even have a plan A lol. Argentina won all games till germany but overall I didn't get the impression they played all that well. Their game was evidently disorganized and the only reason they actually got good results was because of how overwhelmingly good their players were individually(messi collaborated for a few goals and even if he did not get a chance to really shine there was always some danger for the opposing team when he had the ball)..
 

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Liverpool. What a load of Cobblers.

Cookie for everyone who spots the joke. And I'm not talking about Liverpool.
 

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Your puns are...wonderful. :oh

Anyway, supporting a football team can be tiresome. Im thinking of watching another sport, it might make more sense and means i dont have to scream "fuck" in a airplane...
 

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Impy!!! :D

I've never seen Brom play so well tbh. Mainly, because I barely pay any attention to their games ha. :O City did one over Chelski which was actually quite satisfying to watch...until we drew with Bolton that is. :bored

Just when Berbatov was coming back...
 

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I did not get to watch the match, i saw the result while on my flight. Heads turned i tell you. Im going to pretend it did not happen, im not even looking at the goals. We are now going from beating Tottenham to playing Chelsea, nothing happened inbetween these two matches. Nothing¬
 

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Where were you heading? haha must've been funny....for everybody else. :D

Ouch. It's at Stamford Bridge. Not looking good at the mo. Seriously, Wenger needs to bring in some experienced players but it's way too late for them now. It'll be another trophy-less season. That goes for Utd as well imho. D: Carling Cup maybe?
 

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Wenger's problem? Adding steel and experience to his young side might be admitting that he was wrong in trusting them to move Arsenal on. Plus because of their wage structure they seem to be limited in who they can bring in. Why go to Arsenal when Chelsea, Man U and City can offer more?


What a shite weekend for everyone. First loss to West Ham since Lasagnegate. And there I was looking forward to Grant getting the push this morning.
 

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I would like to hear (read?) some opinions on Tévez, preferably from the english gentlemen.
 

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I would like to hear (read?) some opinions on Tévez, preferably from the english gentlemen.
I've been impressed by him. He works hard for the team rather than waiting for others to set him up all the time.

Van Der Vaart. What a steal!!! Beautiful snapshot for the opener, missed penalty and getting sent off. It was impossible to be angry with him for jeopardizing the win. What is it about the Dutch in general and Ajax in particular that creates all these wonderful players?
 

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What is it about the Dutch in general and Ajax in particular that creates all these wonderful players?
It is a real shame they couldnt hold onto their generation, because it would have been sensational. And after todays result you probably love him some more. :p
I would like to hear (read?) some opinions on Tévez, preferably from the english gentlemen.
Gentleman? :XD Tevez i think is very good although he is always been overshadowed for the past couple of seasons. At united Rooney and Ronaldo were there. Argentina, Messi. At city he is finally the main figure and the main threat so i suppose its no surprise he's begun scoring like he was in his Corinthian days were i assume he was the main player(?). Having said that, he doesnt get incredibly plaudits which will change if City get into the CL and he continues his scoring record.
Where were you heading? haha must've been funny....for everybody else. :D

Ouch. It's at Stamford Bridge. Not looking good at the mo. Seriously, Wenger needs to bring in some experienced players but it's way too late for them now. It'll be another trophy-less season. That goes for Utd as well imho. D: Carling Cup maybe?
I was heading to London, ironically it was a fly emirates flight. :XD
Wenger's problem? Adding steel and experience to his young side might be admitting that he was wrong in trusting them to move Arsenal on. Plus because of their wage structure they seem to be limited in who they can bring in. Why go to Arsenal when Chelsea, Man U and City can offer more?
In my opinion the problem is not experience. There is enough of a balance of young players and experienced players. Van persie, Arshavin, Fabregas, Sagna etc you can harldy say they're not experienced. The major concerns are threefold, injuries, defence and the mentality (which is related to your point about "steel"). The mentality of some players is horrible. Denilson and Diaby are two prime examples that suffer from collective lapses of concentration. They cannot focus for 90 minutes, its beyond them. I can bring countless examples of players ghosting past them as they simply stand and watch. Or crosses coming in and they're not focusing on the player or the ball. Or misplacing passes because they are not concentrating on who they are giving the ball too. Its gets incredibly annoying, and its down to the coach to fix it. Others have other problems, Clichy for example tends to panic when things are not going well. If the team is playing badly he plays even worse, he begins letting people go past etc. Thats also related to the general problem we have in defence. Almunia, god help him, has a similar more exasperating problem. If he makes the smallest of mistakes, there is no going back, he will begin to crumble. There is more but lets leave at that.

The mental problems and the mistakes from it are all evident in the 4-4 with spurs. Bentley scored a goal from far away, Almunia mistake. He begins to crumble, second goal he makes another mistake as he parries the ball into the path of bent who scores. Close to the end clichy get jittery from a bit of pressure and makes a mistake, the ball is in jenas's hands and he shoots. Almunia already demoralised and making mistakes right left and centre, reacts late to the shot. Goal. The last goal is a perfect example of Denilson and Diaby's lack of concentration, its the last minute its 4-3, they lose concentration and just watch as Huddlestone passes to Modric who shots. They should have been closing down faster. Its something that i believe Wenger has tried to adress a couple of seasons ago. Im not sure if you remember (why should you >.>; )but in the 08 season when we had our title run, this came out. I have doubts if stuff like that works but its shows that he is trying to get them more mentally stronger. But it doesn't seem to be working and all of this means "unpredictable" arsenal.

The mentalitly problem of the team also leads to the general problem with our defence. Almunia and clichy are vulnerable mentally, if the chips are down they are going to make mistakes. And its up to the other three to help them out, but the problem is that for the past two seasons only one of CB's has been at playing at a very high level while the other was being bailed out. Two seasons ago, it was Toure was playing very badly and Gallas was keeping the defence together (which was evident when he got injured, we fell apart and started conceding ridiculously that season). Last season it was the other way around, Gallas who was beginning to lose some pace was starting to make mistakes (although not like toure) as Vermaelen held the fort. This season we'll see how whoever partners (both their names are hard to spell off my head, im not going to try >.>) Vermaelen performs but im sure it will continue. So we had two mentally vulnerable players, one CB who plays badly which leaves only two players who are consistently playing at a high level. Which means if we're down by a goal or two we are most likely not going to catch up but lose by more as they continue to crumble. (Barca 4-1, Chelsea recently, United 3-1 CL etc).

Also add to the fact that we have a stupid host of injuries. We end up being unpredictable, defensively awful and generally "close but not yet there".
 

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In my opinion the problem is not experience. There is enough of a balance of young players and experienced players. Van persie, Arshavin, Fabregas, Sagna etc you can harldy say they're not experienced. The major concerns are threefold, injuries, defence and the mentality (which is related to your point about "steel"). The mentality of some players is horrible. Denilson and Diaby are two prime examples that suffer from collective lapses of concentration. They cannot focus for 90 minutes, its beyond them. I can bring countless examples of players ghosting past them as they simply stand and watch. Or crosses coming in and they're not focusing on the player or the ball. Or misplacing passes because they are not concentrating on who they are giving the ball too. Its gets incredibly annoying, and its down to the coach to fix it. Others have other problems, Clichy for example tends to panic when things are not going well. If the team is playing badly he plays even worse, he begins letting people go past etc. Thats also related to the general problem we have in defence. Almunia, god help him, has a similar more exasperating problem. If he makes the smallest of mistakes, there is no going back, he will begin to crumble. There is more but lets leave at that.

The mentalitly problem of the team also leads to the general problem with our defence. Almunia and clichy are vulnerable mentally, if the chips are down they are going to make mistakes. And its up to the other three to help them out, but the problem is that for the past two seasons only one of CB's has been at playing at a very high level while the other was being bailed out. Two seasons ago, it was Toure was playing very badly and Gallas was keeping the defence together (which was evident when he got injured, we fell apart and started conceding ridiculously that season). Last season it was the other way around, Gallas who was beginning to lose some pace was starting to make mistakes (although not like toure) as Vermaelen held the fort. This season we'll see how whoever partners (both their names are hard to spell off my head, im not going to try >.>) Vermaelen performs but im sure it will continue. So we had two mentally vulnerable players, one CB who plays badly which leaves only two players who are consistently playing at a high level. Which means if we're down by a goal or two we are most likely not going to catch up but lose by more as they continue to crumble. (Barca 4-1, Chelsea recently, United 3-1 CL etc).

Also add to the fact that we have a stupid host of injuries. We end up being unpredictable, defensively awful and generally "close but not yet there".
It's a testament to Wenger that he's kept Arsenal in the top 4 all this time. You could have had worse in defence *cough*Docherty, Garndener & Richards*ahem*. And at least you're not Liverpool.

They couldn't have picked a worse time to fall from grace. With Tottenham looking like they might be able to carry on from where they left off from last season and Man City stepping up a level Liverpool will struggle to break back in to the CL. Even worse Everton winning has dropped them into the bottom three (Yes, I know it's early days but its still a beautiful sight).
 

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Who's looking forward to the massacre of Inter in (on?) their own farm? :oh I heard Krasic and Del Piero and co. have been sharpening their blades =3
 

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(Yes, I know it's early days but its still a beautiful sight).
Touché, this is getting as hilarious as the Spurs in 08/09. There is not much hope for them as long as hodgson is in charge. And its quite amusing as well, for all the talk of Gerrard and Torres being the most important persons for them, i doubt they would have collapsed in the same vein if they left instead of Alonso or Benitez (who's importance is beginning to really emerge)
Who's looking forward to the massacre of Inter in (on?) their own farm? :oh I heard Krasic and Del Piero and co. have been sharpening their blades =3
Its between that or watching(hoping) Madrid mess up. =/


Historic night for Tottenham. 3 goals at the San Siro. And I've just heard from reliable sources that the DVD with a 30minute long endless loop of bales goals will be on the site within the coming hours. Superb!

COYS!
 
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