Discussion Crews strength - what you expect from now on

[chess4]

The only argument to overrate Usopp so much is that Yasopp is his father.We don't even know how strong Yasopp is ... & why should the strawhats match themselves with the red hair pirates ? The second in command is a wise gunman (Beckman) & the captain is a swordman who sparred with mihawk ...

Face it, Usopp is one of the two weaker strawhats.
The way you underrate robin & brook is laughable as well.

Usopp won't ever be stronger than robin, brook or Franky. Those 3 are out of his league.

Usopp & Nami will grow stronger but their main job will always be "fodder disposal" added to their "versatility" which can be used in some specific situations. They will become strong but the ranking within the strawhats didn't change after timeskip & won't ever change ...

i rate usopp high because his goal is to be the king of snipers. also i rate yassop high because he is the sniper in one of the yonkou crews. oda said that usopp would always be the weakest PHYSICALLY, NOT THE WEAKEST FIGHTER. people under estimate usopp because he is a bit of a chicken most of the time.

and why do u say i underrate robin and brook, and comparing brook to vista and robin to hancock is underestimating. hancock is one of the strongest women in the one piece world and vista is a great swordsman.

if usopp is going to be the best sniper he will be just as strong as them.

this is how i look at it, the strawhats are the justice league and usopp is batman. he is the weakest physically but he is still a very effect fighter.

also no one on the crew can do what usopp does. usopp is a top flight sniper and his ingenuity is the best among the crew as well.

the way i look at it is, its hard not to compare the strawhats and red hairs. i guarantee that yassopp is not the 4th strongest member in the crew, but he is one of the top 4 members because he has other qualities besides just his sniper ability.

lets not forget, for usopp to be the best he has be better the the kuja chicks and all of them use haki on their arrows, so for sopp to be better than them, he has to use it as well. also if he cant hit a logia user, how can he be the best sniper.

also for him to be the best his sniper ability has to super human, like hitting target no one else can hit or hitting targets no one else can see. the color of arnament would help with that. thats why i say he will develop 2 types.

mark my words usopp will be the 4th best member of the crew......its just set up that way.

 

[Realtwisted]

I think both Brooke and Chopper are heavily underestimated and it's really not that strange due to the fact that their awesome fighting moments are overshadowed by their weakness in their funny moments. Just recently, Zoro was portrayed as the cool and strong hero while Brooke stood for the comedy.

Hopefully we'll see more of both Chopper and Brooke!

All the members apart from the Mounster Trio are being understimate. Everyone is so strong now, is like God.

 

[Ninja_Pirate]

i rate usopp high because his goal is to be the king of snipers. also i rate yassop high because he is the sniper in one of the yonkou crews. oda said that usopp would always be the weakest PHYSICALLY, NOT THE WEAKEST FIGHTER. people under estimate usopp because he is a bit of a chicken most of the time.

and why do u say i underrate robin and brook, and comparing brook to vista and robin to hancock is underestimating. hancock is one of the strongest women in the one piece world and vista is a great swordsman.

if usopp is going to be the best sniper he will be just as strong as them.

this is how i look at it, the strawhats are the justice league and usopp is batman. he is the weakest physically but he is still a very effect fighter.

also no one on the crew can do what usopp does. usopp is a top flight sniper and his ingenuity is the best among the crew as well.

the way i look at it is, its hard not to compare the strawhats and red hairs. i guarantee that yassopp is not the 4th strongest member in the crew, but he is one of the top 4 members because he has other qualities besides just his sniper ability.

lets not forget, for usopp to be the best he has be better the the kuja chicks and all of them use haki on their arrows, so for sopp to be better than them, he has to use it as well. also if he cant hit a logia user, how can he be the best sniper.

also for him to be the best his sniper ability has to super human, like hitting target no one else can hit or hitting targets no one else can see. the color of arnament would help with that. thats why i say he will develop 2 types.

mark my words usopp will be the 4th best member of the crew......its just set up that way.

i agree that usopp will be strong when it comes to his sniper skills.... and his dream is to be brave warrior of the sea not sniper king.... he already consider himself d sniper king......
as d storyline goes everyone will achieve their dream at d end of d series... moreover snipers/long range fighters r generally weak... mentioned in naruto... take eg of counter strike even.. snipers r always easy to kill once discovered but most dangerous... oda will not deviate from such basics...
Thus usopp will never b a strong member of sh but will b d most important member....and thts hw its gonna b... either u

like it or not ... doesnt matter

also yasopp seems to have diff role.... he seems to b a gun man to me rather than sniper and thus a long to short range fighter

 

[xeteboi]

Actually the fight in the anime is quite different from what was actually in the manga, so it's not right to compare them. The actual truth is what was shown in the manga. Also Sakazuki actually inflicted more damage to WB and it was way more serious. WB eventually would have died from such injuries.
Of course if WB was younger and wasn't sick he would have defeated an Admiral or maybe even two, but as we saw him in the manga he couldn't defeat even one.

I have also red the manga but the real basis about this is the anime right? Coz it is the finalized one.. Ok ok.. dont you even think that Rayleigh is as strong as an admiral even though with his old state and he is the vice-captain of the Pirate King. Um so you mean Zorro can not achieve what Rayleigh had, actually we are just conceptualizing about this coz only Oda knows but logically,IMO If Luffy can surpass Roger, then Zorro should surpass Rayleigh.

Plus additional points for main characters actually.They were defeating every single opponents that we never could imagine that they can..

 

[Jorge D. Dragon]

xeteboi
I believe that Zoro can surpass Rayleigh, but I don't think that even in his prime he could defeat an Admiral like Kizaru.

On the topic...
I think people overrate Usopp a bit and I also believe that people highly underrate Robin. Her DF's power is one of the best in actual combat. Actually I'd say that in SH crew she 1005 can't defeat only Luffy and Franky for the logical reasons. But she has pretty decent chance against the majority of the crew. She can literary one-shot Brook, Nami, Usopp and Chopper (when he is in his normal child form). She can also fight pretty good against Sanji and Zoro, cause her power is very sutable for a assasinations and surprise attacks. No one can predict (if you don't have Haki) that someone will try to break your neck and if they wouldn't fight in a fair fight Robin has a decent chance to one-shot Sanji and Azoro. If we go by fair fight, I'd still say that she has decent chance to not loose, cause she can literary make infinite hands on their bodies to break their legs, hands, joints, so she won't be an easy fighter, even though she isn't very strong person, but she also can make them loose their balance and that is pretty important in the fight. Also it's important when you are fighting on the ship as she can just trow a person in the water using her DF ability. Her power won't work on Logias and on opponents with specific body like Franky's (it's too hard to break) and Luffry's (it just can't break).

 

[chess4]

xeteboi
I believe that Zoro can surpass Rayleigh, but I don't think that even in his prime he could defeat an Admiral like Kizaru.

On the topic...
I think people overrate Usopp a bit and I also believe that people highly underrate Robin. Her DF's power is one of the best in actual combat. Actually I'd say that in SH crew she 1005 can't defeat only Luffy and Franky for the logical reasons. But she has pretty decent chance against the majority of the crew. She can literary one-shot Brook, Nami, Usopp and Chopper (when he is in his normal child form). She can also fight pretty good against Sanji and Zoro, cause her power is very sutable for a assasinations and surprise attacks. No one can predict (if you don't have Haki) that someone will try to break your neck and if they wouldn't fight in a fair fight Robin has a decent chance to one-shot Sanji and Azoro. If we go by fair fight, I'd still say that she has decent chance to not loose, cause she can literary make infinite hands on their bodies to break their legs, hands, joints, so she won't be an easy fighter, even though she isn't very strong person, but she also can make them loose their balance and that is pretty important in the fight. Also it's important when you are fighting on the ship as she can just trow a person in the water using her DF ability. Her power won't work on Logias and on opponents with specific body like Franky's (it's too hard to break) and Luffry's (it just can't break).

rayleigh is an old man, out of shape, and by his own admition had not held a sword in years and he held serve against kizaru. rayleigh in his prime would eat kizaru's lunch. lets not forget he was the right hand of the strongest man in the world. there relationship is like luffys and zoro's. luffy is the strongest and zoro is a very close 2nd.


usopp's problem has never been his ability, it has been his lack of confidence in himself. usopp said himself that he graduated from the weak trio. oda would not write that if it wasnt going to come to past. i have always felt that robin was the 4th strongest member and her powers were down played a bit.

usopp goal is to become a brave warrior and the TRUE sniper king. if he achieves that, then he will be one of the strongest people in the one piece world.


the power structure in the crew as far as strength goes in this order luffy, zoro, sanji, robin, then everyone else. i think usopp will eventually take over that 4th spot

 

[Jorge D. Dragon]

chess4
I agree that Rayleigh is out of shape, but not that much. He managed to go from Sabaondy to Kuja Island swimming! So he wasn't that much weakened from his best shape. Also we don't know if the Admirals in his age had such DF as Kizaru, Ao Kiji or Akainu have. They are practically ultimate fighters. Even the person with just a DF of Logia type might be strong like Enel, but they also have strong Haki and pretty great level of combat abilities and might even know Rokushiki, so they surely wouldn't be eaten by Rayleigh even in his prime. I'd even doubt that it would be easy for Roger or WB in one on one. They would have won, but of course they won't have an easy fight.

Again about Luffy and Zoro. Zoro is second in command. He is strong, but no way he is as strong as Luffy or close to Luffy. Zoro is one of my favourite characters not only in One Piece, but in general, but of course he isn't as close to Luffy as people try to imply. I'd say he is practically twice weaker than Luffy. At least in terms of Doriki (physical damage that can be inflicted), he doesn't have confirmed Haki (also Luffy mastered Haki to a quite high degree as was staited by Rayleigh). Of course Zoro was taking second strongest opponent in every Arc, but Luffy's opponents were way stronger than Zoro's and that's obvious and can't be argued.

Actually I don't agree that Usopp's problem was lack of confidence. He was obviously the weakest exept for Nami. And even now he might be graduated from the weak trio, but he still would be the third from the last. Everyone got stronger, so he won't become stronger than Franky or Robin, cause they were way stronger than Usopp and now they became even stronger (we saw Robin's DF power underwater, so on the land she would be even stronger).
I'd say that for now it's:
1. Luffy
(big gap)
2. Zoro.
3. Sanji The gap between Zoro and Sanji isn't big)
(big gap)
4. Franky.
5. Robin.
6. Brook.
gap (not big, but still)
7. Chopper and Usopp (I can't decide, cause we didn't see much from both of them after timeskip)
8. Nami.

 

[Ninja_Pirate]

rayleigh is an old man, out of shape, and by his own admition had not held a sword in years and he held serve against kizaru. rayleigh in his prime would eat kizaru's lunch. lets not forget he was the right hand of the strongest man in the world. there relationship is like luffys and zoro's. luffy is the strongest and zoro is a very close 2nd.

Rayleigh in his prime would have beaten the crap out of kizaru since that time kizaru wasnt strong.. moreover i dont know if it matters that he has held a sword for years or not.. atleast in one piece until and unless ur body is fit... if that wud have been the case.. no strong pirate can live in peace and have to keep on fighting everyday to b in touch.. though i agree zoro can hold kizaru.. but beat him... its far from reality i must say.. major reason would be DF gape between the two..

usopp's problem has never been his ability, it has been his lack of confidence in himself. usopp said himself that he graduated from the weak trio. oda would not write that if it wasnt going to come to past. i have always felt that robin was the 4th strongest member and her powers were down played a bit.

usopp goal is to become a brave warrior and the TRUE sniper king. if he achieves that, then he will be one of the strongest people in the one piece world.


the power structure in the crew as far as strength goes in this order luffy, zoro, sanji, robin, then everyone else. i think usopp will eventually take over that 4th spot

Usopp said he has graduated weak trio without knowing that the other two graduated with him .... so the crew s hierarchy maintained.. and oda always make usopp brag about himself.. lol

How could anyone know at this point of time that usopp does not consider himself true sniper king currently... and again... even if he masters bravery and sniping.. he will not be one of strongest.. he will b a prodigy but not "STRONGEST"

 

[pyogenes]

I'm convinced that Nami not only will be a skilled haki user, but she has been since the beginning.

I bet her ability to predict weather and currents is due to a strong natural affinity towards COO haki. Instead of sensing people and predicting their actions she senses the environment.

Note: I'm NOT saying that she will be skilled at using haki for combat

 

[Jorge D. Dragon]

pyogenes
Actually I won't argue at your theory, but it's not far-fetched to say that it's not based on Haki, but she is just a skilled navigator. In a real life navigators are so skilled that they can say about the changing of weather just by feeling changing of wind or humidity inthe air.

 

[chess4]

chess4
I agree that Rayleigh is out of shape, but not that much. He managed to go from Sabaondy to Kuja Island swimming! So he wasn't that much weakened from his best shape. Also we don't know if the Admirals in his age had such DF as Kizaru, Ao Kiji or Akainu have. They are practically ultimate fighters. Even the person with just a DF of Logia type might be strong like Enel, but they also have strong Haki and pretty great level of combat abilities and might even know Rokushiki, so they surely wouldn't be eaten by Rayleigh even in his prime. I'd even doubt that it would be easy for Roger or WB in one on one. They would have won, but of course they won't have an easy fight.

Again about Luffy and Zoro. Zoro is second in command. He is strong, but no way he is as strong as Luffy or close to Luffy. Zoro is one of my favourite characters not only in One Piece, but in general, but of course he isn't as close to Luffy as people try to imply. I'd say he is practically twice weaker than Luffy. At least in terms of Doriki (physical damage that can be inflicted), he doesn't have confirmed Haki (also Luffy mastered Haki to a quite high degree as was staited by Rayleigh). Of course Zoro was taking second strongest opponent in every Arc, but Luffy's opponents were way stronger than Zoro's and that's obvious and can't be argued.

Actually I don't agree that Usopp's problem was lack of confidence. He was obviously the weakest exept for Nami. And even now he might be graduated from the weak trio, but he still would be the third from the last. Everyone got stronger, so he won't become stronger than Franky or Robin, cause they were way stronger than Usopp and now they became even stronger (we saw Robin's DF power underwater, so on the land she would be even stronger).
I'd say that for now it's:
1. Luffy
(big gap)
2. Zoro.
3. Sanji The gap between Zoro and Sanji isn't big)
(big gap)
4. Franky.
5. Robin.
6. Brook.
gap (not big, but still)
7. Chopper and Usopp (I can't decide, cause we didn't see much from both of them after timeskip)
8. Nami.

im saying if raylieh in his prime fought one of the admirals in there current state he would destroy them. shanks is basically a young rayleigh. rayleigh knows all 3 haki's and can use them all well.

i dont understand why people think there is a big gap between luffy and zoro. zoro cant beat luffy, but he would not just roll over/ also i think the power ranking is pointless becaus the strawhats true power is there team work.

for example lets use ennies lobby. no one could beat lucci except for luffy and no one could have shot those marines from the tower of justice except for usopp. zoro and sanji would kill luffy in water becaus eluffy has a DF.

like i think that chopper has the best defense of anyone on the crew. each strawhat does what the other cant.

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Rayleigh in his prime would have beaten the crap out of kizaru since that time kizaru wasnt strong.. moreover i dont know if it matters that he has held a sword for years or not.. atleast in one piece until and unless ur body is fit... if that wud have been the case.. no strong pirate can live in peace and have to keep on fighting everyday to b in touch.. though i agree zoro can hold kizaru.. but beat him... its far from reality i must say.. major reason would be DF gape between the two..



Usopp said he has graduated weak trio without knowing that the other two graduated with him .... so the crew s hierarchy maintained.. and oda always make usopp brag about himself.. lolHow could anyone know at this point of time that usopp does not consider himself true sniper king currently... and again... even if he masters bravery and sniping.. he will not be one of strongest.. he will b a prodigy but not "STRONGEST"

why would oda put that in the chapter about usopp graduating from the weak trio if it wasnt true?

also usopp does not consider himself the real sniper king.

http://www.mangareader.net/103-56760-18/one-piece/chapter-596.html

usopp knows he has a long way to go, but so does everyone else.

help me understand the last bit about the prodigy statement. if usopp is the king of sniping he will be able to use 2 colors(arnament and observation)

so if he is the undisputed king of sniping....that doesnt make him one of the strongest in one piece?

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I'm convinced that Nami not only will be a skilled haki user, but she has been since the beginning.

I bet her ability to predict weather and currents is due to a strong natural affinity towards COO haki. Instead of sensing people and predicting their actions she senses the environment.

Note: I'm NOT saying that she will be skilled at using haki for combat

i personally think that only luffy, zoro, sanji, and usopp will learn haki to a degree where they can use it in battle.

luffy, zoro, and sanji are obvious but i think usopp has to be able to use haki because im sure there are sniper out there that can imbed haki into bullets or projectiles. everyone on amazon lilly can use imbue haki into their arrows, so usopp has to be at least better than them.

 

[Jorge D. Dragon]

chess4
I won't argue about Rayleigh, cause at least for now we don't know the actual extent of his power in his prime, so we can't say something for sure. So I won't insist that I'm right.

Of course everyone in Mugivaras has their own purpose, but we are talking about their actual power and fighting capacities. About Sanji beating Luffy in the water... Nami can also beat an Admiral in the water.
In an actual fight on the land in one on one without preparations Luffy is deffinetly the strongest and I'd even say considerably strongest than anyone else in his crew. Zoro is rather far from him.
About defence... Seriously? Luffy has the best defence not only because of his super tough body, but also because he has CoA Haki. It can even defend from Logia, so of course his defense is the best in the crew.

 

[Dice]

luffy, zoro, and sanji are obvious but i think usopp has to be able to use haki because im sure there are sniper out there that can imbed haki into bullets or projectiles. everyone on amazon lilly can use imbue haki into their arrows, so usopp has to be at least better than them.

I'm not really sure if he will learn haki for sure but if he learns it than more then the four you mentionend will learn it to some degree.
About your argument with the people from amazon lilly: Does he really need haki to be better than them? A rocket launcher in the hand of an idiot might be less dangerous for you than a pistol in the hand of someone who knows what he is doing (just an exaggerated example, I hope you get what I mean).
I for myself think that Ussop might not learn haki just because he is the one who resembles a normal human the most. Furthermore he has a fighting style that is all about inventions and creativity. Additionally every victory he achieves against an opponent using haki will be way more deserved.
Ussop will always be the underdog in his fights. Having no haki will guarantee that in the new world and put him in a big disadvantage so he has to use his mind.



Mhhh...thinking about it. It's seems that Ussop is the Batman of One Piece. Just a normal human with gadgets but no super power.

 

[zelllogan]

i dont understand why people think there is a big gap between luffy and zoro. zoro cant beat luffy

CP9's Doriki Levels:
- Rob Lucci: 4000 vs Luffy
- Kaku: 2200 vs Zoro
- Jabura: 2180 vs Sanji
- Blueno: 820 & others below


If that's not a way for oda to say: "Sanji & Zoro are really close and Luffy is well above" ...

And the only argurment found by people in complete denial: "oh but Luffy was dead tired ... Zoro & Sanji still had enough strength to fight"

Please, give me a break. Luffy basically singlehandly defeated half of Enies Lobby + Blueno + had to use third gear to destroy that heavy door ... before defeating someone who had 2x the douriki level of the others & a better devil fruit. And this is to add to the fact that Kaku spent half his fight trying his devil fruit & the fact that Jyabura is a complete dumbass

And people still are putting Zoro at the same level . Amazing.

why would oda put that in the chapter about usopp graduating from the weak trio if it wasnt true

Lol, that's hilarious. Usopp is telling this without even knowing what the others are now able to do and Usopp literraly mean "to lie" ... And usopp is known to brag uselessly ...

so if he is the undisputed king of sniping....that doesnt make him one of the strongest in one piece?

No. Plus, his fighting style is not evolving towards a pure sniper ... & becoming the king of sniping is not his dream ...His dream is to become a brave warrior, nothing more ...

 

[Uriel]

Just because Zoro is able to handle the same damage than Luffy, I would put him at the same level. Well, not the same, but I wouldn't make such a big gap. The Douriki rates were made before Kaku got his DF, so it's very likely it got stronger in the Jiraffe Form.

For me, the rank should be:
Physically
1. Luffy
(Gap)
2. Zoro.
3. Sanji
4. Chopper's Monster Point
(Gap)
5. Franky
6. Brook
7. Chopper
8. Robin
9. Usopp
10. Nami

In Battle Proficiency.
1. Luffy
2. Usopp
3. Robin
4. Zoro
5. Nami
6. Sanji
7. Franky
8. Brook
9. Chopper
10. Chopper's Monster Point

 

[chess4]

CP9's Doriki Levels:
- Rob Lucci: 4000 vs Luffy
- Kaku: 2200 vs Zoro
- Jabura: 2180 vs Sanji
- Blueno: 820 & others below


If that's not a way for oda to say: "Sanji & Zoro are really close and Luffy is well above" ...

And the only argurment found by people in complete denial: "oh but Luffy was dead tired ... Zoro & Sanji still had enough strength to fight"

Please, give me a break. Luffy basically singlehandly defeated half of Enies Lobby + Blueno + had to use third gear to destroy that heavy door ... before defeating someone who had 2x the douriki level of the others & a better devil fruit. And this is to add to the fact that Kaku spent half his fight trying his devil fruit & the fact that Jyabura is a complete dumbass

And people still are putting Zoro at the same level . Amazing.


Lol, that's hilarious. Usopp is telling this without even knowing what the others are now able to do and Usopp literraly mean "to lie" ... And usopp is known to brag uselessly ...


No. Plus, his fighting style is not evolving towards a pure sniper ... & becoming the king of sniping is not his dream ...His dream is to become a brave warrior, nothing more ...

those numbers are irrelevent because that was 2 years ago.

regardless of what you say usopp is a sniper IT HAS BEEN STATED IN THE MANGA. yes his dream is to be a brave warrior, but he knows for luffy to be the pirate king he has to be the sniper king. it may not be his dream but they go hand and hand.

what you are saying makes no sense. its like saying when zoro becomes the strongest swordsman in the world he will not be one of the strongest people in the one piece world. if usopp is the sniper king, he will be one of the best in the world

 

[Jorge D. Dragon]

chess4
How come numbers are irrelevant?
Basically we can see that even in Ennies Lobby Arc Luffy was twice as strong as Zoro and in every future arc Luffy got only bigger difference. He defeated another Shichibukai, entered Impel Down and then got out from it and then got to the War. In that moment Zoro was lying in bandages on Mihawk's Island. He got to train only after the War.
Even if we assume that everyone got about the same level of power-up (even though I think that Luffy got the biggest progresion, cause he not only got physically stronger and better with his DF, but he was confirmed to get quite proficient with all types of Haki) Luffy is still way above Zoro and hence way above everyone in the crew. And that was obvious during the whole manga.

 

[Ninja_Pirate]

why would oda put that in the chapter about usopp graduating from the weak trio if it wasnt true?

also usopp does not consider himself the real sniper king.

http://www.mangareader.net/103-56760-18/one-piece/chapter-596.html

usopp knows he has a long way to go, but so does everyone else.

help me understand the last bit about the prodigy statement. if usopp is the king of sniping he will be able to use 2 colors(arnament and observation)

so if he is the undisputed king of sniping....that doesnt make him one of the strongest in one piece?
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i personally think that only luffy, zoro, sanji, and usopp will learn haki to a degree where they can use it in battle.

luffy, zoro, and sanji are obvious but i think usopp has to be able to use haki because im sure there are sniper out there that can imbed haki into bullets or projectiles. everyone on amazon lilly can use imbue haki into their arrows, so usopp has to be at least better than them.

http://www.mangareader.net/103-56101-6/one-piece/chapter-594.html .. it is clearly stated that haki is developed by years of training.. which coby went through.. luffy went through hard times enough... zoro went through... where does usopp coming in picture is something i could not understand (that 2 years he must have spent reducing his weight ).. however yes there have been cases seen where it could be inbuilt but that must have been shown up till now... someone will not get haki just because he needs it ..

By prodigy i meant in sniping.. he got a natural talent and time will come when he will carry out unbelievable tasks .. take out out targets cant be seen... with his sniping skills...

for what he said about being sniper king.. it was two years back.. how do anyone know that he doesnt consider himself sniper king already.. ???

Also just having haki does not ensure to be the strongest or even dangerously strong.. otherwise kuja would have been ruling the world by now..

and just like like being undisputed navigator will not result in nami being strongest.. undisputed sniper doesnt mean usopp being in the strongest..

 

[kkck]

I really don't think the whole doukiri is that black and white. Zoro and sanji fought evenly with their matches with no visible upgrades to say the least. Once they used their upgrades, kyutoui and diable jambe, they basically one shot kaku and jyabura and went off to keep fighting a number of other enemies. Basically, you could say there was a somewhat significant gap between sanji and zoro and their respective enemies. In turn, luffy fought a extremely prolonged fight and even using his new techniques he got nowhere nearly as much of an advantage as either of them did over their enemies. Luffy is without a doubt the strongest but I really don't think zoro and sanji lag significantly behind, specially zoro.

 

[Jorge D. Dragon]

You forget that Kaku was trying his DF all the fight and actually Zoro had quite troubles with Kaku, especially in trying to defend from his hits and especially in landing. And of course he won when he used his strongest move. It's like when you are fighting someone with bare fists for 30 minutes and then you get a two-handed sword and slice him in half in a second and then say that it was an easy fight.
Also you keep forgetting that not only Luffy got the strongest opponent, he was also having a different fight. He was rather tired before fighting Lucci. He took more than a half of soldiers of Ennies Lobby by himsel (more than 5000 soldiers of 10000), then he defeated Bruno (the 4th strongest CP9 member), used his Gear 3 to open the door and then he was not only fighting Lucci at first, but he was giving Franky an opening to run for Robin, so he was pretty much tired before the fight with Lucci. I'd say that his fight would be way easier if he would fight Lucci in normal conditions.