Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

[Zeromcd]

Shounen Jump Issue 33 Cover Thanks to Sakaki's Twitter

 

[Kaiten]

I like the new cover. The reflection in the headband is a nice touch.

 

[Newkerzy]

I think the preview seems to confirm that Tsunade is indeed going to be in the frontlines in this movie.

 

[Oberon]

94 名前：ohana ◆IR7jauNn4E ：2011/07/20(水) 18:04:01.38 ID:YW3BAFhrP
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ナルト
トリコ
スケット
バクマン
リボーン
銀魂　Ｃ
スターズ
べるぜ
ＳＩＮＳ　Ｃ
いぬまる
マジコ　Ｃ
鏡の国　Ｃ
斉木
ブリーチ
めだか
こち亀
黒子
エニグマ　←忘れてた。ごめんね。
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花咲

34号　こち亀巻頭
バクマン　Ｃ
黒子　Ｃ
ツキミのソバ　Ｃ

Jump #33 (25/07):
Naruto (Cover & Lead Color)
Toriko
Sket Dance
Bakuman
Reborn!
Gintama (Color Page)
ST&RS
Beelzebub
-SINS- (Color Page, GFC Entry #2, 47 pg.)
Inumaru Dashi
Magico (Color Page)
Harisugawa in Mirror world (23 pg.)
Chou Nouryokusha Psychic no Sainan (One Shot by Asou Shuichi)
Bleach
Medaka Box
Kochikame
Kuroko no Basket
Enigma
Nurarihyon no Mago
Hanasaka Ikkyuu
One Piece (Absent)

#34:
Kochikame (Lead Color)
CP: Bakuman, Kuroko no Basket, Tsukimi no Soba (GFC Entry #3)

 

[Nayrael]

Pure rankings:

01. Toriko
02. Sket Dance
03. Bakuman
04. Reborn!
05. Beelzebub
06. Inumaru Dashi
07. Bleach
08. Medaka Box
09. Kuroko no Basket
10. Enigma
11. Nurarihyon no Mago
12. Hanasaka Ikkyuu

ST&RS: 5 more chapter till it enters the Ranking Race
Harisugawa in Mirror World: 6 more chapters till it enters the Ranking Race

 

[Nii]

Why is Mago still so low? I don't get it, the last few chapters have been fairly interesting and enjoyable yet Reborn with it's completely chliche and disappointing last chapters is up there, totally undeserved in my opinion. It would be a shame to see Mago go now that it gets interesting again.

Sad to see "Enigma" and "Hanasaka" so low. Enigma should be able to rise because the E-Test's coming to a conclusion but now that Hanasaka has crashed to the bottom I fear it won't be able to recover.

The rest is fine with me, I'm looking forward to how long Toriko will be able to stay number 1

 

[NANAhashi]

The thing is getting better for bleach, even just a bit. :P

Dat Harisugawa, sry, but I hope it will gone as soon as possible. I'm totally rooting against this one.

Mago is really difficult to say...its selling is quite good, but the ranking is another thing. Not mention that Jump is lacking for the cushion rightnow, so...

Btw, shell I prepare myself and say goodbye to Ikkyu. ;_;

 

[Mr. Prince]

Lol... Kubo is probably popping'em corks right now. That's his best result in ages, reason enough to kick up his heels.

Aside from my amusement routine: amazing week for Sket! And well deserved on top of that. The top 3 are altogether quite refreshing this week.
Ikkyuu is a goner, last week really gave us false hopes. Free fall to rock-bottom is saying a lot...

 

[Asgaroth]

Btw, shell I prepare myself and say goodbye to Ikkyu. ;_;

the chapters after the first were quite boring, even the recent chapter are boring. what a shame that i didn't go well.

hopefully enigma will survive, we need a superpowers suspense manga. mirror world and st&rs are great too currently. would be great if reborn, maga, bleach would end soon, because they had their chance and only freeze important slots for new great mangas.

medaka is good, but it should hurry to it's conclusion, not be stretched out with another arc.

 

[Divinenega]

Darn it Enigma, rise back up from the ashes!! Though hopefully the e-test climax will see a swift rise back up through the rankings.

Sort of sad to see things looking bad for Ikkyu as well, but between the two, Ikkyu is more expendable in my mind. Also sort of wish Bleach would go back to the bottom 5 as it deserves to be for this arc, but Mago looks screwed. At this rate once the second season of the anime ends, it;s a goner.

Medaka not being in the bottom 5 and Reborn being in the top 5 sort of please me, but then Reborn hasn;t been at top quality lately so I suppose I can;t take much satisfaction in that.

 

[Rejuvenation]

I said #1 would go to Toriko or Bakuman last week and it wasn't hard to guess that Toriko would indeed take it. However, Sket Dance grabbing #2 really did surprise me. The anime is doing wonders for its rankings and with so much content to be covered it should be set for at least the next 2 years I imagine. Bakuman taking the #3 spot is cool with me. I love this top 3 this week even if its influence by One Piece being absent and Naruto having color. Reborn hasn't deserved a top 5 spot since somewhere back in the earlier parts of The Future Arc imo but for some reason there it is.

Medaka was close to escaping the bottom 5. It isn't in the worst spot right now but just for peace of mind I'd ideally like it to keep on staying a couple of spots out of it. Especially since the rest of the year is going to be very rough I believe. Bleach barely misses the bottom 5 by one spot. I guess we can call that an improvement lol.

Well, Ikkyu has had quite the fall this week. Last place is rough. Lets see if it can recover next week or if it becomes the new cushion for everything else in the magazine. Mago is still struggling. If the second season of the anime doesn't help to raise its future rankings it should be interesting to see what Jump decides to do with it. Enigma has been struggling as of late too. Its not in a good position right now. Its either going to have to rise up out of the bottom 5 or hope that one of the new series starts ranking worse than it has been the last couple of weeks.

lol I almost forgot about Kuroko still visiting the bottom 5 more frequently as of late. I'm looking to see what Jump is planning on doing with this in the near future. Is it being shopped around to get its anime soon? It will be 3 years old in December after all. Or will it just continue to be the token sports series and retain its immunity. The color page next week looks to confirm the latter haha.

 

[Divinenega]

I said #1 would go to Toriko or Bakuman last week and it wasn't hard to guess that Toriko would indeed take it. However, Sket Dance grabbing #2 really did surprise me. The anime is doing wonders for its rankings and with so much content to be covered it should be set for at least the next 2 years I imagine. Bakuman taking the #3 spot is cool with me. I love this top 3 this week even if its influence by One Piece being absent and Naruto having color. Reborn hasn't deserved a top 5 spot since somewhere back in the earlier parts of The Future Arc imo but for some reason there it is.

Medaka was close to escaping the bottom 5. It isn't in the worst spot right now but just for peace of mind I'd ideally like it to keep on staying a couple of spots out of it. Especially since the rest of the year is going to be very rough I believe. Bleach barely misses the bottom 5 by one spot. I guess we can call that an improvement lol.

Well, Ikkyu has had quite the fall this week. Last place is rough. Lets see if it can recover next week or if it becomes the new cushion for everything else in the magazine. Mago is still struggling. If the second season of the anime doesn't help to raise its future rankings it should be interesting to see what Jump decides to do with it. Enigma has been struggling as of late too. Its not in a good position right now. Its either going to have to rise up out of the bottom 5 or hope that one of the new series starts ranking worse than it has been the last couple of weeks.

lol I almost forgot about Kuroko still visiting the bottom 5 more frequently as of late. I'm looking to see what Jump is planning on doing with this in the near future. Is it being shopped around to get its anime soon? It will be 3 years old in December after all. Or will it just continue to be the token sports series and retain its immunity. The color page next week looks to confirm the latter haha.

Well I think that if Enigma's recent low rankings have something to do with readers getting a bit tired of the e-test arc then it should rise back up pretty quickly. If not than it may be in for a bumpy ride for a while...though I think it should be safe into it;s first year anniversary.

As for Kuroko getting an anime, I think that if it was gonna happen, JUMP would have already pushed for it. I guess they don;t see the series as THAT much of an investment. On that note we haven;t confirmed that Medaka Box gainax adaption either, but by process of elimination it;s next in line for an anime anyway so it should hopefully get an official announcement at some point.

 

[Nuno]

Well Bleach is at least out of the bottom 5. It's to be expected, the arc has finally turned into something and is getting quite interesting. The rank should only get better from this point.

 

[Westlo]

They'll be silly to cancel Mago, going by Jumps track record of late the chances of them finding something that sells as good as Mago is to be blunt, fuck all. Nothing they've serialized since Mago has outsold it except Bakuman and Toriko (and they're fairly even) which were around the same time period. Not to mention that Mago was the 9th best selling series of 2010 (the anime making all the older volumes sell) and for the first half of 2011 it's 12th. (I'm sure Sket Dance and Ao no Exorcist will overtake it though)

You replace it with what? Enigma that took 3 volumes to even show up in the charts? Shinagami which had a ceiling of 30k opening weeks after 9 volumes? Psyren that could barely break 50k after 18 volumes? Multiple series that die before the first tank even gets released?

Worst case scenario it gets moved. They should just ride with it and see the response to the new arc, as far as profits from tanks go (which is where the money is!) they won't get anything better than Mago....

Medaka not being in the bottom 5 and Reborn being in the top 5 sort of please me, but then Reborn hasn;t been at top quality lately so I suppose I can;t take much satisfaction in that.

It's in the bottom 5 like last week, but it was also 9th and 8th in those two weeks.... it should be fine.. it had 3 weeks in a row @ 6, was 9th or whatever, had a color and than 9th and 8th with a color to come due to the character poll results. It's also around nearly a 150k seller.. and more than likely will get an anime... I know I'll rather be in Medaka's position than Enigmas atm.

 

[StrangerAtaru]

Weird week with OP out and Naruto color. Toriko taking first sort of feels expected by this point strangely though, with Sket being in 2nd really showing it's recent strength since the start of it's anime. Ikkyu's collapse...heh, well it's been another tough year for newbies. And Bleach...well it still has support from some in the community but something tells me it's glory days are still over and it could just ride comfortably in the middle of the magazine for a while.

 

[Jaiden82]

Finally Bleach is out of the bottom. Very surprised that Reborn is 3rd, so am happy. Mago is still low, that sucks. And I knew that Ikkyuu was going to end up at the bottom sooner or later, I just knew it.

 

[7sun]

Woohaa Sket Dance 2. place I'm really happy with that.
I hope enigma is better next week :/ It's so a nice manga.
In my opinion is reborn! a little bit too high. I think that was the Hibari Chapter, or?
Like the Cover too! Even with images from the movie.

 

[Divinenega]

They'll be silly to cancel Mago, going by Jumps track record of late the chances of them finding something that sells as good as Mago is to be blunt, fuck all. Nothing they've serialized since Mago has outsold it except Bakuman and Toriko (and they're fairly even) which were around the same time period. Not to mention that Mago was the 9th best selling series of 2010 (the anime making all the older volumes sell) and for the first half of 2011 it's 12th. (I'm sure Sket Dance and Ao no Exorcist will overtake it though)

You replace it with what? Enigma that took 3 volumes to even show up in the charts? Shinagami which had a ceiling of 30k opening weeks after 9 volumes? Psyren that could barely break 50k after 18 volumes? Multiple series that die before the first tank even gets released?

Worst case scenario it gets moved. They should just ride with it and see the response to the new arc, as far as profits from tanks go (which is where the money is!) they won't get anything better than Mago....



It's in the bottom 5 like last week, but it was also 9th and 8th in those two weeks.... it should be fine.. it had 3 weeks in a row @ 6, was 9th or whatever, had a color and than 9th and 8th with a color to come due to the character poll results. It's also around nearly a 150k seller.. and more than likely will get an anime... I know I'll rather be in Medaka's position than Enigmas atm.

Well I don;t think any of us seriously think Mago will be eliminated altogether, but odds are it will be moved to SQ if it doesn;t get up out of the bottom 5, even with the anime running.

I also agree that Enigma's not in a very good position at the moment, but I still think it;s safe for a bit with Ikkyu apparently being a cushion for a while. We do have to remember though, that Enigma is a really non-mainstream series by a new author so it;s no mystery that it;s still trying to find an audience as far as tank sales go. If it survives long enough to get an anime I think it might end up exploding in popularity as far as tank sales go like with AnE and FMA. I just hope these recent visits to the bottom 5 will be brief.

 

[Rejuvenation]

Well I think that if Enigma's recent low rankings have something to do with readers getting a bit tired of the e-test arc then it should rise back up pretty quickly. If not than it may be in for a bumpy ride for a while...though I think it should be safe into it;s first year anniversary.

As for Kuroko getting an anime, I think that if it was gonna happen, JUMP would have already pushed for it. I guess they don;t see the series as THAT much of an investment. On that note we haven;t confirmed that Medaka Box gainax adaption either, but by process of elimination it;s next in line for an anime anyway so it should hopefully get an official announcement at some point.

I don't read it so I can't judge it based on its current merits. I just know that its best bet is to be a spot or two out of the bottom 5 to keep itself going. At least until HxH ends up going away.

I could have said the same thing about Sket Dance a year ago before it got its anime. Once a manga reaches a certain amount of chapters and assuming its not going on a dead last streak, the potential for an anime is there. I have never particularly championed Kuroko(quite the opposite for most of its run) but it has the chapter count and sales to warrant an adaption. Whether that takes 3 years or nearly 4 like Sket remains to be seen.

Pretty much agreed that Medaka would realistically be the next in line. Nothing else besides Kuroko has enough content for one.

 

[Jaymie]

Enigmaaaaaa... It's a good sign that it didn't crash and burn, though. Ikkyu's not going to be canceled for another couple of weeks, so Enigma is safe for now.

Things aren't looking good for NuraMago. Or Harisugawa. It isn't even ranked yet and it's starting to drop in the ToC. That's usually an indication that it's going to tank. I don't particularly care though.

Bleach rose a bit, but it's still considerably low. I'm too lazy to see which chapter this ranking reflects, but Kubo got a lucky break.