Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2011] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 1

[Schabrak]

You just have to have a good idea and acceptable good art, as Oda has proven sufficiently. Sometimes you just have to be lucky, win one of the awards and have your one-shot picked up for serialization. Should be no news though, not for readers of Bakuman.^^

 

[Haato]

°ロ° I didn't realize the authors in Jump were that old...see what happens when you take everything in Bakuman seriously XD I'm so gullible...thats what I get for taking all my info from a comic book literally XD

 

[Schabrak]

With a limited amount of slots in magazines for special/certain demographic layers[josei,shounen,etc] you didn't expect unexperienced high school graduates to get published directly, did you?^^ Nearly all mangaka did work as a assistant for a time, around 5 to 10 years with in respect of the data above.

Obata -> Kentaro Yabuki[Black Cat], Nobuhiro Watsuki[Rurouni Kenshin], Yusuke Murata[Eyeshield 21]
Watsuki -> Eiichiro Oda[OP], Hiroyuki Takei[Shaman King]

And now everyone of from the "3 generations" is more or less successful, had a big hit for a time.

 

[Teeba]

Tamura-sensei shares my sister's birthday. o_O That is pretty cool!

Honestly, I'm not really surprised a lot of Jump's mangaka are in their 30s. Being 30 is much different now than it used to be...there is more emphasis for people to be who they want to be and not just reach that ultimate mid-thirties goal of settling down with 2.5 kids and a dog. I think creative writing transcends age quite easily. This is why something as "ageless" as say One Piece can be popular with kids and have also have a large adult readership.

 

[k-dom]

1/3 of the current line up have more than 350 chapters ( with 50 chapter per year that makes 7 ), so of course the average age increase.

 

[Schabrak]

More around 40 to 45 issues a year, just saying , so it's an even longer time since their serialization. 8+years for a good part of the mangaka, which prevented a new series to get a slot in the magazine.

 

[perroloco]

Well one of the most awesome mangakas ever shares birthday with me, Go Nagai born September 6 1955 (IIRC, maybe it was 1945?) and Koji Kumeta is close born September 5th xxxx.

To keep on topic if someone else could post an 80s TOC we could compare the average age for mangakas at that time..
There is a noticable difference though, back in the 80s most of the popular manga-kas had already made a hit.. Then they made a bigger hit!
Examples:
Akira Toriyama: Dr. Slump-Dragon Ball
Masami Kurumada: Ring Ni Kakero-Saint Seiya
Buronson: Doberman Detective-Hokuto No Ken
Tsukasa Hojo: Cat's eye-City Hunter

Shimabukuro (Leader Takeshi-TORIKO), Obata (Hikaru no Go-Death Note-Bakuman.)and Togashi (Yu Yu Hakusho-HUNTER X HUNTER) fit the bill. But what about Oda, Kishimoto, Tite, Sorachi and REBORN's! mangaka (Forgot name)?
Makes me wonder if they will make another JUMP manga after they finish their current ones AND if they do, would they be bigger hits than say NARUTO (I doubt Oda could make something more popular than OP but Kishimoto making a new manga would surely attract attention quickly).

 

[Zeromcd]

- Akimono Osamu began his first series "KochiKame" in 1976, at the age of 24. And is still ongoing.

- Oda Eiichiro debuted with the oneshot "WANTED!" in 1992 at the age of 17! He began his first series "One Piece" in 1997 at the age of 22. And is still ongoing.

- Togashi Yoshihiro debuted with the oneshot "Sensēha Toshishita!!" in 1986 at the age of 20. He began his first series "Ten de Shōwaru Cupid " in 1989 at the age of 23. And was quickly cancelled. He later created "Yu Yu Hakusho." His series HunterxHunter is currently serialized in Jump.

- Kishimoto Masashi debuted with the oneshot "Karakuri" in 1998 at the age of 23. He began his first series "NARUTO" in 1999 at the age of of 24. And is still ongoing.

- Kubo Tite debuted with the oneshot "ULTRA UNHOLY HEARTED MACHINE" in 1996 at the age of 19. He began his first series "Zombie Powder" in 2000 at the age of 23. It was cancelled quickly.

- Shimabukuro Mitsutoshi began his first series "Seikimatsu Leader Den Takeshi" in 1997 at the age 22. It was cancelled due to some certain incidents. His series"Toriko" is now serialized in Jump.

- Obata Takeshi debuted with the oneshot "Cyborg Jii-Chan" in 1987 at the age of 18. He began his first series "Cyborg Jii-Chan" in 1989 at the age of 20.

- Ohba Tsugumi (or Gamou Hiroshi) began his first series "Tottemo Lucky Man!" in 1993 at the age of 31. That is of course if you believe Ohba is Gamou.

- Kanou Yasuhiro debuted with the oneshot "BLACK CITY" in 1992 at the age 21. He began his first series "Pretty Face" in 2002 at the age of 31.

- Ohisi Kouji began his first series "Maison du Penguin" in 2006 at the age of 24. His current series "Inumaru Dash" is currently serialized in Jump.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

Yes, most of current Jump mangakas are old, but you should remember when they started their series:

- Akimoto started Kochikame in age of 24
- Oda started One Piece in age of 22
- Kishimoto started Naruto in age of 25
- Kubo started Bleach in age of 24
- Sorachi started Gintama in age of 26

Furthermore, there are many mangakas from past which started in early 20s (or sometime in late teens). The average age has increased because most of weekly shonen manga series continue for at least 5 years; that's why the average year is increasing on each year.

Bakuman's mangakas age are young because of Ashirogi's and Niizuma's age. In reality, I don't think the editors let the authors start their series when they were still teenagers; they suggest them to start as an assistant to get more experiece. In reality, most mangakas start their mangas when they were between in Fukuda's and Hiramaru's age.

---------- Post added at 10:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:23 PM ----------

Saikyo Jump will become monthly magazine starting from upcoming December.

 

[Asgaroth]

- Obata Takeshi debuted with the oneshot "Cyborg Jii-Chan" in 1887 at the age of 18. He began his first series "Cyborg Jii-Chan" in 1989 at the age of 20.

thats a big gap between oneshot and first series =)

many of them have a 5 year gap between their works, is working as a assistant enough to keep the expensives? also they need assistants for their on work, without publishing a volume in the first 3 month. seems like they increase their debt even more, that would mean getting axed could be fatal.

 

[Schabrak]

Asgaroth
Can't do much if Kano couldn't come up with a good concept for a new series or just had a mental blockade for that long, at least his skills at drawing grew over the time and after that he got into WSJ much more frequently.

I doubt a monthly release of Saikyo will get it any more translations. haha

 

[Kubukurin]

---------- Post added at 10:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:23 PM ----------

Saikyo Jump will become monthly magazine starting from upcoming December.

So I guess the sales are good.

 

[Josef]

Schedule for Jump Festa 2012 in December:

http://www.jumpfesta.com/stage/index2.html

 

[Divinenega]

So no OVA's for Medaka or Kuroko huh? Well they already got animes confirmed so I guess there would be much point and none of the newer series have enough material yet.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

So no OVA's for Medaka or Kuroko huh? Well they already got animes confirmed so I guess there would be much point and none of the newer series have enough material yet.

OVA for Jump Festa hasn't announced yet.

 

[Divinenega]

OVA for Jump Festa hasn't announced yet.

I see. Wonder what it;ll be then since their isn;t really much point in doing one for Kuroko or Medaka with both having confirmed adaptions(correct me if these OVAs are still done after TV anime announcements are made).

I suppose Enigma could be slightly feasible since they did do a VOMIC for it and it;s the only newer series that's been out long enough, but then given where it is in the rankings at the moment I'm grasping at straws I guess.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

I see. Wonder what it;ll be then since their isn;t really much point in doing one for Kuroko or Medaka with both having confirmed adaptions(correct me if these OVAs are still done after TV anime announcements are made).

I suppose Enigma could be slightly feasible since they did do a VOMIC for it and it;s the only newer series that's been out long enough, but then given where it is in the rankings at the moment I'm grasping at straws I guess.

You should also remeber that series from SQ also might get OVA, not just WSJ.

 

[Divinenega]

You should also remeber that series from SQ also might get OVA, not just WSJ.

True enough. I;m sort of surprised Ultimo hasn;t gotten one, given how much Stan Lee's been pushing it.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

True enough. I;m sort of surprised Ultimo hasn;t gotten one, given how much Stan Lee's been pushing it.

Well, maybe because its ranking is low, tank sales isn't high as they expected, and Heroman (Stan Lee's other manga work) didn't increase its ranking even it got animated.

 

[Divinenega]

Well, maybe because its ranking is low, tank sales isn't high as they expected, and Heroman (Stan Lee's other manga work) didn't increase its ranking even it got animated.

Well Ultimo has good tank sales here in the US...but of course with Japan being Japan, they don;t really take that into account much