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[ferdinbeer]

Re: Nanatsu no Taizai by Nakaba Suzuki

Thanks for join us. Yes, that's possible, but it's unlikely, since that time line would require also:
In some moment right after the cup-d'etat (after 10 years ago) King discovers Elaine had been killed 10 years before, and
Ban never told King about the dead of his sister.

It would be unlikely that the king of the fairies didn't get aware, during 10 years, of the death of his sister and of the end of his forest. And Ban not telling King about her sister's fate is unbelievable.

We don't know why King left the forest in the first place or why he didn't or couldn't return, but there could be a reason. However, I think his reaction in the flashback in Chapter 21 makes it look like that he didn't know that his forest was burnt down.

As for why Ban didn't tell King about what had happened to Elaine and the forest, I think it's because
(1) Ban didn't know that Elaine was King's sister.
(2) Ban didn't know that King was the Fairy King. They apparently never knew that he could transform his appearance, so I think this is very possible.

We don't know for sure whether (2) is true, but if it is, that makes it very believable that Ban never told King about what happened. Even if it isn't, I find this scenario more believable than having nearly two identical demon corpses in the same forest.

And thanks for the welcome

 

[ukimix]

Re: Nanatsu no Taizai by Nakaba Suzuki

As for why Ban didn't tell King about what had happened to Elaine and the forest, I think it's because
(1) Ban also didn't know that Elaine was King's sister.

Oh, he knew it: http://www.batoto.net/read/_/168143/nanatsu-no-taizai_ch25.5_by_red-hawk-neo/24

---------- Post added at 12:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:11 AM ----------

Ey man! You are the translator of Nanatsu!!!!! Kon ni chi wa

I guess your posts here, after MattC302 questions about a possible error in the translation, clear once an for all that there is no mistakes there. What do you think about the possibility of an error made by the author?

I said again: nice to have you here!!

 

[k-dom]

Re: Nanatsu no Taizai by Nakaba Suzuki

Another great chapter because we saw the villains' side of the story. It looks like that among the holy knights a group has a hidden agenda. Hendricksen is having a main role (I don't think he is te leader. The way how the new generation holy knights get their power is revealed.

What I found interesting is that among the villains, Dreyfus faction seems to be on the bad side rather by ignorance than by bad intention. Hendricksen seems the one pulling the strings.

This fight festival could be fun. I just hope it has a faster pace than this current One Piece tournament or it will bore me.

I had exactly the same thought. It's good that a flashback comes put some interest in this One Piece tournament. As for this one, I don't think it will take that long the story is quite fast paced so far and apart Hauser, the sins and probably the girl I wonder how many other strong contestants they are.

Oh, he knew it: http://www.batoto.net/read/_/168143/nanatsu-no-taizai_ch25.5_by_red-hawk-neo/24

No he didn't look at next page :-)
I mostly agree with ferdinbeer timeline, it is the one that make the most sense.

 

[ukimix]

Re: Nanatsu no Taizai by Nakaba Suzuki

No he didn't look at next page :-)

Ah yes! Ferbinder's timeline is right. Here the confirmation. King to Ban: "I didn't think much of it back when I was around you".

 

[Sakakibara Eitaro]

Re: Nanatsu no Taizai by Nakaba Suzuki

Oh, he knew it: http://www.batoto.net/read/_/168143/nanatsu-no-taizai_ch25.5_by_red-hawk-neo/24

That does not show that he knew, I go with ferdinbeer theory and think he didn't know or, as he realized what happened, he just didn't tell King about his sister been dead.
It makes sense because king didn't think ban been imortal was because of the fountain and how/why his home town was destroied and Ban didn't tell him anything.
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/162675/nanatsu-no-taizai_ch21_by_red-hawk-neo/14
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/162675/nanatsu-no-taizai_ch21_by_red-hawk-neo/15
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/162675/nanatsu-no-taizai_ch21_by_red-hawk-neo/16

 

[ukimix]

Re: Nanatsu no Taizai by Nakaba Suzuki

That does not show that he knew, I go with ferdinbeer theory and think he didn't know or, as he realized what happened, he just didn't tell King about his sister been dead.
It makes sense because king didn't think ban been imortal was because of the fountain and how/why his home town was destroied and Ban didn't tell him anything.
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/162675/nanatsu-no-taizai_ch21_by_red-hawk-neo/14
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/162675/nanatsu-no-taizai_ch21_by_red-hawk-neo/15
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/162675/nanatsu-no-taizai_ch21_by_red-hawk-neo/16

Yeah, I also quoted the page you are quoting to give the reason to ferbindeer. And yes, Ban knew that Elaine had a brother who was the king of the forest and the king of fairies. But he seems to have ignored Elaine's brother was his mate King, the sin of sloth.

 

[ferdinbeer]

Re: Nanatsu no Taizai by Nakaba Suzuki

Yeah, I also quoted the page you are quoting to give the reason to ferbindeer. And yes, Ban knew that Elaine had a brother who was the king of the forest and the king of fairies. But he seems to have ignored Elaine's brother was his mate King, the sin of sloth.

lol, you just can't get my nick right, can you? I don't blame you, it's gibberish.

I realized that my original timeline was slightly wrong: the coup-d'etat happened just a few days before the events of chapter 1, and the 7DSs being framed for killing the great holy knight was 10 years ago. They're two separate events.

 

[Samui]

Re: Nanatsu no Taizai by Nakaba Suzuki

Btw, when Ban was captured at the end of the Gaiden, he wasn't a Sin yet, as evident by the absence of his fox tattoo.

http://www.batoto.net/read/_/168143/nanatsu-no-taizai_ch25.5_by_red-hawk-neo/38
http://www.batoto.net/read/_/145968/nanatsu-no-taizai_ch7_by_red-hawk-neo/19

So there were two separate times when he got captured.

---------- Post added May 31, 2013 at 01:11 AM ---------- Previous post was May 30, 2013 at 10:54 AM ----------

Tell me if I've got anything wrong or missed something.

So, in the distant past there was a ancient war between the Maiden Clan and the Demon Clan, which resulted in the defeat of the latter clan.

Seven hundred years ago King leaves his country for unknown reasons, with his sister Elaine remaining as the sole guardian.

The Seven Sins were most likely formed between twenty to ten years ago, as Ban wasn't yet a member. So twenty years ago the Fairy King's forest is attacked by the Demon, Elaine dies and Ban becomes immortal. A short time later, he's arrested for "his" crimes. The Demon is found by Hendricksen.

Meliodas and Diane meet for the first time.

Ban goes through his phase of collecting stuffed animals, angering King.

Ban tries to grab Meliodas' sword, causing the latter to leave a permanent scar on his neck.

Ten years ago, the Great Holy Knight is murdered and the Sins are accused of trying to stage a coup d'état; they scatter around and disappear.

Five years ago, Ban willingly lets himself get captured by the Weird Fangs.

 

[ukimix]

Re: Nanatsu no Taizai by Nakaba Suzuki

bored in this sunday? http://www.batoto.net/read/_/174631/nanatsu-no-taizai_ch31_by_red-hawk-neo

 

[k-dom]

Re: Nanatsu no Taizai by Nakaba Suzuki

In one chapter all fodders are eliminated that's how I like tournament. And nice end with twist. Ban vs Melodias can be funny and I wonder what has happened to Elisabeth. Do the mensurations match hers ? Since her sister is here I guessed it is just someone who looks like her.

 

[goldb]

Re: Nanatsu no Taizai by Nakaba Suzuki

Indeed it's nice to the mangaka is not trying to stall the story by having this tournament and quickly getting to the thick of it. I wonder who this dupe in Elizabeth's Boar Hat uniform is and what her sister is hoping to achieve here. It's unlikely that her and Hauser share a common goal in coming here.

 

[ukimix]

Re: Nanatsu no Taizai by Nakaba Suzuki

Late news: One Piece tourney has unexpected effect on followers of other manga series...

I agree. Really much better with a tourney being solved in 2 or 3 chapters. I bet the winner will be the drunk old guy who will be revealed to be the third sin from left to right in this page. The oldest sin. He will give back her treasure to Diane.

It seems to be the same earring than Eli's one. If I recall it right, Eli has more than one sister, is it right?

 

[Koen]

Re: Nanatsu no Taizai by Nakaba Suzuki

Love this chapter. Everything happened fast and I loved it when Ban was warning King; it looked like the warning was too late but on the other hand it was not!

Is there a possibility that the mysterious girl is Elizabeth's other sister? If one is choosing the wrong side, why can't the other be on the good side.

Anyway, the old man is another mysterious person. I do not think that he is a sin because I would be quite sure that the others would have recognized him. I think he must be some old famous holy knight who does not believe the sins are evil. He is withe the mysterious girl (my guess)

 

[MattC302]

Re: Nanatsu no Taizai by Nakaba Suzuki

King+his pillow=moe

The author should do with King what Oda did with Chopper and progressively make him smaller and cuter. This could bring about incredibly merchandising opportunities. He's nothing without his pillow though. The pillow is the key.

Seriously though, his change in personality is making me forget about how annoying he was in his intro arc.

 

[k-dom]

Re: Nanatsu no Taizai by Nakaba Suzuki

Indeed. Another funny thing he he survived in a fist fight without using them

 

[Mr. Arashi]

Re: Nanatsu no Taizai by Nakaba Suzuki

Have to say it, these recent chapters of Nanatsu have been simple and funny, i like them. The main plot goes towards war, now we start to gain ways to control power more than powerups. This tournament is fast and came with a flashback of the throne's family that soon will start.

The pace and the comedy has to keep this way x)

 

[freeofgreed]

Re: Nanatsu no Taizai by Nakaba Suzuki

One possible identity for this new girl is Diane who maybe found a way to make her self smaller. Which would make sense since it's her weapon up for stack, she's a boar hat employee so it would explain the uniform. Also I don't think it's Elizabeth as this persons frame is larger and more muscular than hers, also notice that you can't see her hair. I also don't think it'd be the other female sin member since none of the sins should know about the boar hat's existence.

 

[ukimix]

Re: Nanatsu no Taizai by Nakaba Suzuki

One possible identity for this new girl is Diane who maybe found a way to make her self smaller. Which would make sense since it's her weapon up for stack, she's a boar hat employee so it would explain the uniform. Also I don't think it's Elizabeth as this persons frame is larger and more muscular than hers, also notice that you can't see her hair. I also don't think it'd be the other female sin member since none of the sins should know about the boar hat's existence.

Or, in that case, once Diane got smaller, Eli lent her his uniform, and for Elis' current clothes... well I don't know. But, tbh, it would be a bit boring if it's Diane. I would prefer some new character.

 

[Tauros]

Re: Nanatsu no Taizai by Nakaba Suzuki

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[ukimix]

Re: Nanatsu no Taizai by Nakaba Suzuki

Where is Eli....??? It's hard to believe Eli is somehow in that body, at least that she changed not only her size but her temperament. Known Eli wouldn't never hit Melodias in that way. Not even if he doesn't recognize her by looking to her changed eyes... Poor Melodias, that should be painful.

More worldbuilding, with others kingdoms entering the scene.

Nice chapter to me.