Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[susanoo13]

Aside for Soma and WT what are the volumes that come out today?

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Aside for Soma and WT what are the volumes that come out today?

Gintama #53
Soul Catcher(S) #03
Hime Doll! #02
Kurokuroku #02
Isobe Isobee Monogatari #01

 

[susanoo13]

Gintame #53
Soul Catcher(S) #03
Hime Doll! #02
Kurokuroku #02
Isobe Isobee Monogatari #01

It will be interesting to see how well Soul Catchers,Isobe and WT will do since next Thursday they will have a full week for the chart.
WT should be at~60K assuming it's popularity really grew with the promotion, I hope to see Soul catchers and Isobee at least reach the 25K.

 

[Maxy Barnard]

For me, it reminds me Soft & Wet

I think that's what they might have been going for. Shiibashi Hiroshi was an assistant of Hirohiko Araki, after all, so maybe it's like spotting a common element between boss and worker

 

[Oberon]

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I don't know if it's an artwork or else, however now we know that the figure in the preview it wasn't an hollow.

 

[Kaizou 10]

Why?

Don't know.

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Okay, so it wasn't like his power or anything.

This picture gets me more interest on this series now.

 

[Leoat12]

The wanted posters and the monster/animal on the right suggest that it is about hunter animal/monsters, after all.

 

[Nayrael]

Seems like the cast is made of adults. Quite surprising for a Shounen Jump Manga.

 

[Kaizou 10]

Seems like the cast is made of adults. Quite surprising for a Shounen Jump Manga.

Well, when you look at Toriko, all of the casts are adults. Plus, I still kind of feel like the MC possible going to be a teenager.

 

[Nayrael]

Well, when you look at Toriko, all of the casts are adults. Plus, I still kind of feel like the MC possible going to be a teenager.

Toriko makes up for it by being "light-hearted". Judging by the cover's style (and knowing Hiroshi's tastes) Illegal Rare seems like a dark story so if the main cast is made mainly of adults this might end up being something you'd expect in a Seinen Magazine (not that I would mind it).

 

[Kaizou 10]

Illegal Rare seems like a dark story so if the main cast is made mainly of adults this might end up being something you'd expect in a Seinen Magazine (not that I would mind it).

Well, let's see how the story go when it is released. But, I do think it'll be a dark story (but, I also think the dark story not necessary makes all main casts are adults).

 

[SharkBait]

Illegal Rare looks like it will fail to resonate with readers. The art looks like its trying to be edgy but kind of fails by having weird secondary cast designs, and his lead character design looks kind of off, like the face/head shape and colouring is weird.

 

[101nemesis]

This is how it looks to me.
The main character looks like Lelouch and the green haired female next to him looks like CC.

 

[FanOfAniManga]

Now I'm really curious as to how this story is going to play out.

If there's one concern I have, it's that the main character's design isn't as noticeable as in his previous work. Whereas Rikuo Nura had the long black and white hair protuding out the back of his head, this guy doesn't have as much to go on. I guess his saving grace might be his outfit, with its coat and pendant that makes him look more like a young adult than a kid or even a teenager, but I don't know.

I'm totally not referring to Maxy's silhouette test, btw.

Toriko makes up for it by being "light-hearted". Judging by the cover's style (and knowing Hiroshi's tastes) Illegal Rare seems like a dark story so if the main cast is made mainly of adults this might end up being something you'd expect in a Seinen Magazine (not that I would mind it).

To remind you, prior to Nura, Shiibashi had produced a lot of oneshots published for Business Jump and two anthologies published by the Osaka University of Arts, so it's surely expected to be delving into the seinen demographic. Though coming back specifically to WSJ does bring a tad bit of risk.

 

[TXC]

Viz wants to print big titles that might move at least (around) 2-5k printed units in sales. (Based on numbers from ICV2, that seems like a decent amount)
Promotion at events that cater to a niche crowd does not necessarily warrant immediate print. Your average joe reader won't attend a con. For all they know, the vocal minority is what has been pushing for it. So they're being cautious with OPM. It's smart business. OPM will probably be printed in the future though.

That's not decent at all, ICV2 doesn't track every store either. But with those numbers their are losing money. (4-5K might be enough to break even in some cases)

 

[RafaFedKilla]

2-3K? And Voz doesn't think Silver Spoon can sell that much here? Oh woah woah wow.


To talk about actual Jump, that Illegal Rare promo looks infinitely more compelling to me than Mago ever did.....

 

[TXC]

Viz doesn't sell stuff to not lose money, silver spoon should be more costly than a typical Vertical license (the ones that gave us some numbers).

So to break even I'd say 6-7k for Silver Spoon, viz would want at the very least, to double that number.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

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I don't know if it's an artwork or else, however now we know that the figure in the preview it wasn't an hollow.

Now i'm oficially very excited for this manga

 

[Lomahongva]

That first image of Illegal Rare looks interesting... I'm expecting to see the actual chapters once it'd be released.

Why do you think that a dark and more mature series won't appeal to WSJ readers? IMHO it only depends in the quality of the plot developed by Shiibashi.

 

[SharkBait]

That first image of Illegal Rare looks interesting... I'm expecting to see the actual chapters once it'd be released.

Why do you think that a dark and more mature series won't appeal to WSJ readers? IMHO it only depends in the quality of the plot developed by Shiibashi.

Because anything that was dark and mature was short lasting, just look back at the series started in the past two+ years. There is a reason why nothing currently in the magazine is dark and mature. Jump readers simply dont want it.