Discussion New Roles and New Rules Suggestion Thread

[GrySun]

Submissions for new roles need to follow the next format in order to be considered:

I. [Place Holder Name]

II. [Affiliation]

III. [Short Description]

IV. [Long Description/Idea/Premise/Scope]

V. [Priority/RoleType/Interactions/other Specifics]

Spoiler: Examples of Approved roles

I. Troublemaker

II. Town

III. Can once per game make a Day phase lynch be the top 2 voted people instead of regular 1 top voted person. Every player has 2 votes but cannot vote the same player twice.

IV. PMs the host on the night before the day he wishes to use his power on. Host announces at start of day that the 2 top voted players will be lynched.
Everyone gets 2 votes that they can use on 2 individual players. Both can be moved once like usual. Example:
!votekill1 PlayerX
!votekill2 PlayerY
!votelock2 (locks on PlayerY).

Any other format is also fine as long as players specify who they are voting and if it's a new vote or they are changing their first one.

V. Doesn't have a Priority, happens at the end of night after all other actions. Doesn't target another player. Primary role.

Since it happens at the end of a phase, the player can be both blocked and killed to prevent it happening.

I. Psychiatrist

II. Townie

III. The Psychiatrist investigates one person per night phase to see if the player has a Secondary Role. They get a "Your target has a secondary role" if that is the case, and a "Your target does not have a secondary role" if it's not. The Psychiatrist does not find out the allegiance of the target.

IV. It's a counter for scum secondaries without outright revealing them, leaving room for guess work and player reading.

V. Priority 2, Primary Role.

Current roles Approved for testing here

Rules on including those in a game:

• A host can take any of these roles and test them in their game. Depending on results from testing the role it will either be included into the Role list or need more changes/testing.
• A host at the very least has to announce in the opening post of the game that new roles are being tested, or alternatively even more specifically reveal the roles that are being tested.

Link to the last update post with the roles that are either close to approval or were not approved: here.

 

[MidoBan]

SECONDARY ROLES

• Unlimited Voter Disease (Unassigned): The infected player can change his votes unlimited times. The one that has it last decides on the Night phase who gets it next. If it is passed to the Healthy Townie, its effect is neutralized and the seondary role dies. (GAME 37)
• Not Voter Disease (Unassigned): The infected player cannot vote. The person who has it last decides on the Night phase who gets it next. If it is passed to the Healthy Townie, its effect is neutralized and the secondary role dies. (GAME 37)

How that sounds?

---------- Post added at 02:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:34 PM ----------

He can have a one shot ability. So he'd shoot just the first person who targets him.

That's really strong. A combination of Bulletproof and Bomb, who doesn't die. An indrance for the Mafia that cannot be overcome.

For that i told to put a weakness on that. I think one time ability for paranoid make him very weak. And the problem with Mirror extend a little more , like a doctor could protect himself lolz.

 

[digitaldude]

No pirate plz.

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Not voter disease will just piss people off, but unlimited voter disease sounds good, especially with that healthy townie rule.

 

[MidoBan]

Also, it kinda creates a paradox.

Let's say that the hypnotist (me) targets gu (mirror) to go for greg. Does he force me to use my ability on me... and target greg, so I use my ability on him?

I don't think there's a way to make the PGO a non broken role.

@Evil, liking the roles, but don't you think that the unlimited voting thingy will be a pain for the hosts? Imagine if someone like Xadyu had it :P

Also, that threesome guy. He dies when the lovers die, but I expect him to die and the lovers won't follow him... just because, imo, it would make the lovers weaker instead of stronger.

When he dies, he appears as a 3rd party? He sends PMs every night or he only has 1 shot like the diffuser?

Yeah in the case, the hypnotist would go for greg and nothing would happen. Maybe one way to make mirror more viable is he can reflect just one ability at night? or if he is targget a "X" number of time, he broke and die.

 

[Evil3ye]

Well, it's not really a bomb, as it would kill also a detective. It's like an vigilante, just at night.

If he is targeted by two or more people, when he still has his bullet, it goes by the priority list, first P1 would die, then P2, P3. If two from one are targeting him, obviously a coin would be tossed who gets to him first, and then dies.

Hypno is shit. Your play proved it. It'd be like only a balanced game, if there would be no other townie roles, than hyp, however it doesnt make sense then at all.

 

[Hardy]

if he is targget a "X" number of time, he broke and die.

I like this. 3 is the magic number.

 

[digitaldude]

No to the mirror sounds like the paranoid gun owner. hell no to Satan. Threesome lover is maybe for large games.

 

[Evil3ye]

For that i told to put a weakness on that. I think one time ability for paranoid make him very weak. And the problem with Mirror extend a little more , like a doctor could protect himself lolz.

Not every role has to be strong or useful though.

That's something some people really don't understand here. Hardy.

 

[MidoBan]

No to the mirror sounds like the paranoid gun owner. hell no to Satan. Threesome lover is maybe for large games.

Mirror is to replace paranoid lol

 

[Hardy]

Well, it's not really a bomb, as it would kill also a detective. It's like an vigilante, just at night.

That can't choose it's victim. He gets a PM if he kills someone?

Hypno is shit. Your play proved it. It'd be like only a balanced game, if there would be no other townie roles, than hyp, however it doesnt make sense then at all.

I'm not really following why I proved it's broken but ok I guess.

 

[digitaldude]

Mirror is to replace paranoid lol

paranoid is like the only role that we will not put in a game anymore, so lets leave it dead.

 

[Kat]

I think Lovers should become a bit more powerful like for example: We have two lovers and they would have a chance to "pick a kid" target somebody (just once) who would become a part of them but would not die when any of "parents" are targeted... I dunno

 

[Hardy]

Not every role has to be strong or useful though.

That's something some people really don't understand here. Hardy.

I suggested a lot of useless crap

 

[digitaldude]

I think Lovers should become a bit more powerful like for example: We have two lovers and they would have a chance to "pick a kid" target somebody (just once) who would become a part of them but would not die when any of "parents" are targeted... I dunno

We already made a rule that they can talk during the day time, lets leave them alone.

 

[Hardy]

We already made a rule that they can talk during the day time, lets leave them alone.

Evil edited that out though.

 

[MidoBan]

paranoid is like the only role that we will not put in a game anymore, so lets leave it dead.

what is the point if we can at least try to fix it?

 

[Kat]

We already made a rule that they can talk during the day time, lets leave them alone.

They cant win ...

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I would love lovers to have a chance to have a kid not because I love kids just to make them more powerful to give them a chance

 

[digitaldude]

They cant win ...

So lets not use them instead of constantly modifying maybe?

 

[MidoBan]

Not every role has to be strong or useful though.

That's something some people really don't understand here. Hardy.

I know , but the role have to be at least have some purpose, and dont know if he can do that in this way

 

[digitaldude]

Evil edited that out though.

EVIL!!!!

what is the point if we can at least try to fix it?

Some roles are called bastard roles they are just annoying to have, lovers is one such role.

 

[Evil3ye]

I updated the PGO and limited him to a one shot. Hypno is out for now, until someone comes up with a reasonable suggestion.