Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2015] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[WyldViolet]

Center color: Kagamigami

Looks like Jump has another success!

 

[Stark700]

Looks like Jump has another success!

Is that the sarcasm font? Some thought that about Illegal Rare and Gakkyuu Houtei though.

 

[bobop]

Eh... It might be a bit too soon to outright call it success.
GH got a CP for chapter 7 and 11. And it's just waiting to be cancelled right now.

 

[Leoat12]

Is that the sarcasm font? Some thought that about Illegal Rare and Gakkyuu Houtei though.

We can see a pattern here. Illegal Rare, Gakkyuu Houtei and now Kagamigami. All of them had authors who had successes before.
Apparently, Jump editors really like to promote old authors to see them crumble right after, so I agree, it is better not get hopes up.

 

[WyldViolet]

Is that the sarcasm font? Some thought that about Illegal Rare and Gakkyuu Houtei though.

Kagamigami has been doing better in the rankings than both iirc.
Although I admit, I did jump on the hype train for Illegal Rare as well.

 

[RubyR91]

We can see a pattern here. Illegal Rare, Gakkyuu Houtei and now Kagamigami. All of them had authors who had successes before.
Apparently, Jump editors really like to promote old authors to see them crumble right after, so I agree, it is better not get hopes up.

I wouldn't consider Psyren the success that Nura and Death Note were.

 

[Stark700]

I wouldn't consider Psyren the success that Nura and Death Note were.

Idk man, 16 volumes is still pretty impressive for a Jump manga. Even if it didn't get the greatest sales numbers. By that logic, Saiki can't be considered a success right now, at 12 volumes while charting less than 90k in Oricon.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Comparing a gag with a battle shounen isn't a good thing, gag mangas like Kusuo Saiki and Isobe never have huge sales, 90.000 is big for a gag, in other hand, a battle shounen selling this for 3 years in Shonen Jump means that isn't much more than a flop. Saiki is much more successful than Psyren.

Measuring success in Shonen Jump by number of volumes? Hokenshitsu no Shinigami had 10 volumes, rankings were bad and sales at Hinomaru level. wasn't a success, not even close, just a lucky flop.

Not saying that Psyren was really a flop, but sometimes looks like some people don't realise that Psyren never did something to be really considered a Shonen Jump successful manga. Just survive for three hard years and was finished.

 

[Stark700]

Comparing a gag with a battle shounen isn't a good thing, gag mangas like Kusuo Saiki and Isobe never have huge sales, 90.000 is big for a gag, in other hand, a battle shounen selling this for 3 years in Shonen Jump means that isn't much more than a flop. Saiki is much more successful than Psyren.

Measuring success in Shonen Jump by number of volumes? Hokenshitsu no Shinigami had 10 volumes, rankings were bad and sales at Hinomaru level. wasn't a success, not even close, just a lucky flop.

Not saying that Psyren was really a flop, but sometimes looks like some people don't realise that Psyren never did something to be really considered a Shonen Jump successful manga. Just survive for three hard years and was finished.

Not really my intent to compare across genres in that respect, mostly comparing their length. By no means was Psyren a hit in terms of sales for a shonen battle manga. It's still a "success" in its own right for surviving for 3 years in Jump.

It's still early to say if Jump is giving him a color because the series is doing well though. That's the whole point we're discussing.

 

[BlackTriggerX]

This means either WT wont be getting a color page for chapter 100th or that next week it will be on break...

 

[SharkBait]

This means either WT wont be getting a color page for chapter 100th or that next week it will be on break...

I thought people wanted it to get a cover.

 

[Chipp12]

I think Soma will get a big boost next week when Erina shows up

She has already appeared in the first episode though.

 

[Leoat12]

She has already appeared in the first episode though.

Too fast appearance, she has to meet Yukihira first to give more impact.

 

[justanotherone]

Why would Erina make people go buy the manga?

Do you read people minds? It could be one of the reason since someone could like her personality.

Anyway it is impossible to predict when an anime boost happens so it is only speculation. Personally I think that the declaration of "war" from Souma to Erina in chapter 4, like Eru13 already said, is one of the turn point of the manga.

 

[DoctorApollo]

Why would Erina make people go buy the manga?

Well, y'know how when a manga has really hot guys, you like it a lot?

So it's exactly like that for straight guys, they want to buy the manga because Erina is hot.

Get it?

 

[Leoat12]

Well, y'know how when a manga has really hot guys, you like it a lot?

So it's exactly like that for straight guys, they want to buy the manga because Erina is hot.

Get it?

A drawing would be more efficient.
He still doesn't understand what magazine he is reading and who is Shonen Jump public. That's why he always bet in the wrong series to make success.

 

[Xzone]

Why the people don't say the same thing (HEY, IT HAVE A CP IT THE SAME CASE OF ILEGAL RARE) whith Boku no hero academia?

Kagamigami position
Chapter 8- 7
Chapter 9- 7
Will have CP in chapter 11

My hero academia position:
Chapter 8- 7
Chapter 9-10(CP)
Chapter 10-5
Chapter 11-2
Chapter 12-6

Hinomaru Zumou
Chapter 8- 2
Chapter 9- 6
Chapter 10- 11
Chapter 11- 4 (CP)
Chapter 12- 6


Illegal rare position:
Chapter 8- 17
Chapter 9-11(But it has in the bottom 5)
Chapter 10-9(CP)
Chapter 11-13
Chapter 12-18

Gakkyu Hottei position:
Chapter 8- 8
Chapter 9- 13 (In the Bottom 5)
Chapter 10- 11
Chapter 11- 10 (CP)
Chapter 12- 16

World trigger position:
Chapter 8- 9
Chapter 9- 7 (CP)
Chapter 10- 10
Chapter 11- 13
Chapter 12- 15

Soul catcher(s) position:
Chapter 8- 15
Chapter 9- 14
Chapter 10- 13
Chapter 11- 14
Chapter 12- 16

If it will be a World trigger , Hinomaru or Soul catcher case or a Illegal rare or Gakkyu case is only if it still in the same position and Jump see the oportunity to push it, like Hinomaru

 

[conankudo]

Shounen Jump Issue 20(4/13/2015):
Gintama (Cover, Lead CP)
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Black Clover
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My Hero Academia
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Kagamigami
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Hinomaru Zumou
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Ultra Battle Satellite
World Trigger
Bleach
Kochikame
Cyborg Roggy
Takujou no Ageha
Gakkyu Houtei
The story of Isobe Isobee

Toriko (Absent)

Preview Issue 21 (4/20/2015):
Cover, Lead CP: Nisekoi
CP: Haikyu!!, Kagamigami, One Shot

Preview Issue 22-23 (Double Issue (4/27/2015)
Naruto Gaiden

 

[xAsum0x]

Japanese readers sure love their generic, copy and paste Naruto clones.

 

[Xzone]

It called Fujoshi, it is the next series pushing by togashi...