Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2015] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Heiji]

Just to clarify, this page is instead of the chapter or after the chapter?

They are no chapter in Jump Next #03 (10/07).

 

[jagman1x3]

Goddam. I adore his art. What was his oneshot on Jump+? I think it's safe to say he is probably done with Shueisha.

The oneshot hasn't been published yet, so he can't be done with Shueisha yet. It says it'll be up on the 17th of (can't see the month in that picture, maybe this month but then they might as well have put it in NEXT).

 

[Heiji]

on the 17th of

August

 

[Eru13]

This ToC was dropped in 2ch (and is being taken seriously)
Issue #33
Best Blue (lead color/cover)
Boku no Hero Academia
One Piece
Shokugeki no Soma (center color)
Ansatsu Kyoushitsu
Black Clover
Sesuji wo Pin! to (center color)
Hinomaru Zumou
Gintama
Haikyuu
Devilyman
Saiki Kusuo no PSInan
Toriko
Kagamigami
Oneshot
Isobe (center color)
Kochikame
Bleach
Lady Justice

Absent: World Trigger, Nisekoi

 

[TXC]

It would be a first, nisekoi was never absent.

Hopefully he just forgot about it, only thing worth reading.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Fillerkoi only thing worth reading on Shonen Jump?

Okay, i know that is "taste" but let me pretend that i never read this....

 

[RafaFedKilla]

Expect to see Defilyman drop next week. Debuted right where UBS did. I respect Komi, but they need to end Fillerkoi. Jump's too crowded now.

 

[Eru13]

Confirmed, Nisekoi is absent this issue

 

[conankudo]

Is the title of the One Shot 世界の黒さわ =Sekai no Kurosawa???

 

[Bigivelfhq]

Expect to see Defilyman drop next week. Debuted right where UBS did. I respect Komi, but they need to end Fillerkoi. Jump's too crowded now.

Right now I don't think so.

Popular Titles
5 Veteran titles: One Piece, Gintama, Toriko, Bleach, Kochikame
7 Sophomore titles: Assassination Classroom, Shokugeki no Soma, Haikyuu!!, PSI Sainan, World Trigger, Nisekoi, Isobe Isobee Monogatari
2 Newbie titles: Boku no Hero Academia, Hinomaru Zumou
2 Just Started: Black Clover, Dance-bu
=
16

The magazine has 20 titles and normally 3-2 titles in each round get cancelled, so 1-2 slots are free. Also the fact that 4 positions belong to not well established series(Just started and Newbie Titles), make it easier for a new series to surpass it.
If a newbie wants to shine, this now is a good time.

 

[WyldViolet]

Right now I don't think so.

Popular Titles
5 Veteran titles: One Piece, Gintama, Toriko, Bleach, Kochikame
7 Sophomore titles: Assassination Classroom, Shokugeki no Soma, Haikyuu!!, PSI Sainan, World Trigger, Nisekoi, Isobe Isobee Monogatari
2 Newbie titles: Boku no Hero Academia, Hinomaru Zumou
2 Just Started: Black Clover, Dance-bu
=
16

The magazine has 20 titles and normally 3-2 titles in each round get cancelled, so 1-2 slots are free. Also the fact that 4 positions belong to not well established series(Just started and Newbie Titles), make it easier for a new series to surpass it.
If a newbie wants to shine, this now is a good time.

You can't be serious about a new series surpassing and leading to My Hero Academia's cancellation.
Hinomaru Sumo maybe, but My Hero Academia is pretty safe.
Also, Gintama probably won't last too much longer which will open up another free space.

 

[Irrumator]

Expect to see Defilyman drop next week. Debuted right where UBS did. I respect Komi, but they need to end Fillerkoi. Jump's too crowded now.

Nisekoi's one of the top selling manga in Jump right now. I think the last couple of volumes sold at least 350k. There's no way they're gonna end it.

 

[Lehran]

WSJ comics sales for this week:

01. One Piece #78 (1,676,264)
02. Ansatsu Kyoushitsu #15 (423,828)
03. Bleach #68 (223,964)
04. Toriko #35 (142,908)
46. One Piece #77 (21,310 / 2,851,226)
49. Hinomaru Zumou #5 (20,959)

I just checked it and, according to Oricon rankings, at least since 2008, there were no WSJ titles that sold less than Hinomaru by volume 5 and were actually able to become long-running successes. WT volume 5 was already selling twice as much as it. I think the manga's situation is worrying right now.

 

[Xzone]

Right now I don't think so.

Popular Titles
5 Veteran titles: One Piece, Gintama, Toriko, Bleach, Kochikame
7 Sophomore titles: Assassination Classroom, Shokugeki no Soma, Haikyuu!!, PSI Sainan, World Trigger, Nisekoi, Isobe Isobee Monogatari
2 Newbie titles: Boku no Hero Academia, Hinomaru Zumou
2 Just Started: Black Clover, Dance-bu
=
16

The magazine has 20 titles and normally 3-2 titles in each round get cancelled, so 1-2 slots are free. Also the fact that 4 positions belong to not well established series(Just started and Newbie Titles), make it easier for a new series to surpass it.
If a newbie wants to shine, this now is a good time.

And various veteran and sophomores titles is going to end like Bleach,nisekoi and gintama(I heard toriko by a fan too but I don't know if it is true) beetween final of 2016 and final of 2017 (well except gintama maybe) , and we have series like Hinomaru Zumou and Assclass that are unknown their fate.
But still I don't think Devilyman would survive.
Also, I would say if the freeblue will appeal the fujos it would catch the hinomaru zumou slots

 

[WyldViolet]

And various veteran and sophomores titles is going to end like Bleach,nisekoi and gintama(I heard toriko by a fan too but I don't know if it is true) beetween final of 2016 and final of 2017 (well except gintama maybe) , and we have series like Hinomaru Zumou and Assclass that are unknown their fate.
But still I don't think Devilyman would survive.
Also, I would say if the freeblue will appeal the fujos it would catch the hinomaru zumou slots

As a reader of Toriko they recently revealed some things that could literally allow the series to run for hundreds and hundreds of chapters more (as the series is moving to space and other planets). I think it will probably be rushed to an end by the end of next year though with the consistently dropping ratings and cancelled anime.

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WSJ comics sales for this week:

01. One Piece #78 (1,676,264)
02. Ansatsu Kyoushitsu #15 (423,828)
03. Bleach #68 (223,964)
04. Toriko #35 (142,908)
46. One Piece #77 (21,310 / 2,851,226)
49. Hinomaru Zumou #5 (20,959)

I just checked it and, according to Oricon rankings, at least since 2008, there were no WSJ titles that sold less than Hinomaru by volume 5 and were actually able to become long-running successes. WT volume 5 was already selling twice as much as it. I think the manga's situation is worrying right now.

It's such a shame too.
Hinomaru Sumo is already one of my favorite series to ever run in Jump and is easily within my top sports manga.

 

[SharkBait]

This ToC was dropped in 2ch (and is being taken seriously)
Issue #33
Best Blue (lead color/cover)
Boku no Hero Academia
One Piece
Shokugeki no Soma (center color)
Ansatsu Kyoushitsu
Black Clover
Sesuji wo Pin! to (center color)
Hinomaru Zumou
Gintama
Haikyuu
Devilyman
Saiki Kusuo no PSInan
Toriko
Kagamigami
Oneshot
Isobe (center color)
Kochikame
Bleach
Lady Justice

Absent: World Trigger, Nisekoi

Look at that Dark Sta placement. I remember folks being worried it was falling out of popularity last week.

---------- Post added at 05:46 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:45 AM ----------

Is the title of the One Shot 世界の黒さわ =Sekai no Kurosawa???

Why Best BLue lead so clothed

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

And various veteran and sophomores titles is going to end like Bleach,nisekoi and gintama(I heard toriko by a fan too but I don't know if it is true) beetween final of 2016 and final of 2017 (well except gintama maybe) , and we have series like Hinomaru Zumou and Assclass that are unknown their fate.
But still I don't think Devilyman would survive.
Also, I would say if the freeblue will appeal the fujos it would catch the hinomaru zumou slots

Actually Ansatsu is the most obvious, is pretty clear that is close to the end, probably will end in the first half of 2016, will not pass 2016 for sure.

Toriko isn't ending, the thing is the rankings, who knows what could happens if keep dropping, only if keep dropping, but for sure will keep safe until 2017, for me will reach the 10th anniversary in 2018 and maybe end in the same year

 

[piau9000]

Ranking - VOL 33

1 - My Hero Academia
2 - One Piece
3 - Assassination Classroom
4 - Black Clover
5 - Hinomaru Zumou
6 - Gintama
7 - Haikyuu
8 - Devily Man
9 - PSI Kusou Saiki
10 - Toriko
11 - Kagamigami
12 - Kochikame
13 - Bleach
14 - Lady Justice






Average ranking of 2015 - VOL 33:

"+" means that the series ended or moved to another magazine.

One Piece - 1.72
Assassination Classroom - 2
My Hero Academia - 2.34
Haikyuu - 3.82
Food Wars - 4
Straighten Up - 4
Black Clover - 4.45
Hinomaru Zumou - 5.92
Toriko - 6.29
Gintama - 6.88
PSI Kusou Saiki - 7.10
Devily Man - 8
Nisekoi - 8.47
World Trigger - 8.5
Kagamigami - 8.92
Kochikame - 11.03
Bleach - 11.12
+Gakkyuu Houtei - 11.15
+Ultra Battle Satellite - 11.9
+Judos - 12
+Takujou no Ageha - 12.33
+Hi-Fi Cluster - 12.71
+Cyborg Roggy - 13.5
+E-Robot - 13.5
Lady Justice - 13.5
+Sporting Salt - 13.5

 

[Xzone]

Actually Ansatsu is the most obvious, is pretty clear that is close to the end, probably will end in the first half of 2016, will not pass 2016 for sure.

Assclass never was a "kill/save korosensei and finish the series" it obvious a training period to the action fase , is more obvious the finish of Nisekoi because the romcom jump series never are long

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Assclass never was a "kill/save korosensei and finish the series" it obvious a training period to the action fase , is more obvious the finish of Nisekoi because the romcom jump series never are long

I don't know what Ansatsu Kyoushitsu you're reading, because the manga has 147 chapters of pure "Kill/save korosensei and finish series", nothing more than that. Since the first chapter the manga has a date to end, and the Koro past arc just hinted even more that the manga has a date to end. In the beginning with all the mystery i was thinking about all of this being just the beginning to turn into a battle manga, but after all the time and explanations, is just pretty clear that the manga will end very soon and not turn into a long running battle shounen.

Not that i wouldn't like if this actually happens