Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2015] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[De La Croissant]

No poll for the second vol. this time? I think it will sell much more now.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

About Yuno, the guy do a lot of expressions, i don't know what people are talking about, he is your typical silent character that is a contrast to the main character.

I thought I liked Tabata's art style after Hungry Joker, but now after reading 20 chapters of BLack Clover & seeing his characters designs I know for sure that I don't like it

all of his characters looks the same it's confusing as hell & the fact that his writing is dogs*** doesn't help

almost the same level of unoriginality as Owari no Seraph

Sorry, but i never got confused in Black Clover, actually i got much, much, much more confused with Shingeki no Kyojin where Isayama do plastic surgeries in his characters each chapter.

Yes, some Tabata character designs really looks similar, this happens a lot with other talented mangakas (art) much more because their art style, not lack of "originality", but get confused at this level? you're exaggerating.

 

[piau9000]

The characters that look alike are probably siblings (Nebula, Solid, Noelle, Noselle, etc...).

 

[ElJin]

The characters that look alike are probably siblings (Nebula, Solid, Noelle, Noselle, etc...).

Yeah, proof of this is that Noelle called Solid and Nozell of "onii-san".

 

[Mammo]

About Yuno, the guy do a lot of expressions, i don't know what people are talking about, he is your typical silent character that is a contrast to the main character.



Sorry, but i never got confused in Black Clover, actually i got much, much, much more confused with Shingeki no Kyojin where Isayama do plastic surgeries in his characters each chapter.

Yes, some Tabata character designs really looks similar, this happens a lot with other talented mangakas (art) much more because their art style, not lack of "originality", but get confused at this level? you're exaggerating.

well, i guess you're a smarter man than me because every time i read BLack clover all i see is this:

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

well, i guess you're a smarter man than me because every time i read BLack clover all i see is this:

Is like i said, some Tabata characters looks really similar, this is a fact, what you see all the time is his art style, his structure of the "faces" and the eyes, isn't that he doesn't has "creativity", is his art style, you could do this with Kubo, Akira Amano, CLAMP and a lot of others artists known for their very good art but similarities between their characters designs.

What i said about exaggerating is that you got really confused when read Black Clover as if all characters looks similar enough to not recognize, seriously, i never had this problems in this manga, what not happens with mangas like Shingeki no Kyojin, sometimes Kuroko no Basket is confusing during the tournaments.

I'm not a "smarter man", i just don't see any real problem with Tabata art, i recognize everybody, because the only real similarity between the characters is the structure of face and eyes.

 

[Mammo]

i wish i could do that (recognize the characters without trouble) maybe if his writing was better his art wouldn't bother me as much

*Asta being obnoxious*
evil guy: oh look at dirty rats from the slums"
Juno: don't insult my rival
*evil guy does something evil*
Asta: STEEY AWAH FREM MAH FRONDZ!
*Asta save the day by mindlessly waving his sword around*
*everybody is impressed by Asta*
Asta: someday i'm gonna be the hokage
Fin.

i just summarized every black clover chapter ever, you are welcomed

 

[Mawara]

Yuno? Are we reading the same manga?

Of course, otherwise I wouldnt even writing this. Yuno is a prime example of the Blue Oni-trope. Aster is the one with the facial expressions & emotions.

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well, i guess you're a smarter man than me because every time i read BLack clover all i see is this:

I kinda can see this, but I pressume the reason for this is, that Tabata didnt have a long-running series to develop his artstyle. Though he had Hungry Joker, it was a short series. Just give that guy some time, maybe we gonna see different faces later.

 

[piau9000]

Akira toriyama is way worse in my opinion.
His characters are too similar. The sayajins for example are a carbon copy of each other.
The only difference between then are the hair, since the clothes tends to be the same too.

Masami Kurumada is another one that draws everyone the same.

 

[ElJin]

Akira toriyama is way worse in my opinion.
His characters are too similar. The sayajins for example are a carbon copy of each other.
The only difference between then are the hair, since the clothes tends to be the same too.

Masami Kurumada is another one that draws everyone the same.

We can say pratically all of the Uchihas, too.

 

[piau9000]

We can say pratically all of the Uchihas, too.

Yep. It's a common thing in manga/anime.
Actualy that's one of the things that the people that don't like manga/anime uses to bash it.

I don't understand why everyone is using Tabata as a scapegoat, when there's authors that are way worse in this matter.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

i wish i could do that (recognize the characters without trouble) maybe if his writing was better his art wouldn't bother me as much

*Asta being obnoxious*
evil guy: oh look at dirty rats from the slums"
Juno: don't insult my rival
*evil guy does something evil*
Asta: STEEY AWAH FREM MAH FRONDZ!
*Asta save the day by mindlessly waving his sword around*
*everybody is impressed by Asta*
Asta: someday i'm gonna be the hokage
Fin.

i just summarized every black clover chapter ever, you are welcomed

Sorry man, i don't want to offend you, but now you're just acting like a whiny hater that wants to offend the manga not matter what. And you summarized very bad, since "every chapter" of Black Clover is pretty far to being like this, you're just doing a superficial generalisation and using fallacy to offend the manga. We could do this with the first chapters of a lot of acclaimed mangas like One Piece and etc.

 

[Krono]

I wonder when will jump cancel bleach? I give World Trigger 5-6 months more.

As long as World Trigger has an anime running, they won't be cancelling it.

 

[Heiji]

As long as World Trigger has an anime running, they won't be cancelling it.

Why? Naruto is end and anime still ongoing.

 

[saef1234]

wasn't bleach supposed to have an anniversary cover or something?

 

[SharkBait]

Why? Naruto is end and anime still ongoing.

Kishimoto is still doing one shots, novels, short narutos, and i thought hes taking a short break before doing a naruto sequel.

I think we'll get a naruto shippuden gt though.

 

[piau9000]

wasn't bleach supposed to have an anniversary cover or something?

The next issue (37-38) will gonna be One Piece, so I think that Bleach will get a cover in issue 39.

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Kishimoto is still doing one shots, novels, short narutos, and i thought hes taking a short break before doing a naruto sequel.

I think we'll get a naruto shippuden gt though.

Did not he said that after the Boruto movie he will be done with Naruto?

I don't discard they doing a "GT" in the anime though. They'll probably gonna milk it until it dries.

 

[Chipp12]

Sorry man, i don't want to offend you, but now you're just acting like a whiny hater that wants to offend the manga not matter what. And you summarized very bad, since "every chapter" of Black Clover is pretty far to being like this, you're just doing a superficial generalisation and using fallacy to offend the manga. We could do this with the first chapters of a lot of acclaimed mangas like One Piece and etc.

Yeah the last arc was a bit different but this part stayed the same:

Asta: STEEY AWAH FREM MAH FRONDZ!
*Asta save the day by mindlessly waving his sword around*
*everybody is impressed by Asta*
Asta: someday i'm gonna be the hokage

And it looks like Asta is unconsciously building his harem now thanks to his awesomeness. #wet

 

[Krono]

Why? Naruto is end and anime still ongoing.

Naruto wasn't cancelled, it ended naturally with great fanfare.

Outright cancelling a series while it has an adaption airing airing on the other hand, tends to be bad business.

 

[Mawara]

I don't understand why everyone is using Tabata as a scapegoat, when there's authors that are way worse in this matter.

Well, it's easy: It is a new manga, so there arent that many fans out there, who would defend the manga. Also, it is pretty revelant, because it's a running series in Shonen Jump, it's more difficult not to know BC as a SJ-fan. Most other series which also did such things, or did even worse, arent in the same situation. It's like to punch a kid. Is it fair, although there are much worse series out there? No, but it's easy, and sometimes enjoyable. Not to punch a kid, of course, to make fun of Black Clover. And I still read it, so it cant be that bad after all, compared to Fairy Tail, which I stopped reading because if its bullcrap.
It's very likely that Black Clover will stay in SJ for quite a while, and with that, the jokes will also end.