Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Jko]

Calm your ass down. It's unfair to to talk about feats when one hasn't shown what he's got yet. You won't get anywhere because you have to wait and see what he can do. You can't go saying who is stronger this arc when one hasn't done anything yet. It's like saying August is shit if all he can do is put up a barrier to stop one attack and confuse the radar. YOU ALL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS BEFORE ARGUING OVER SOMETHING THAT CANT BE ANSWERED YET.

THIS IS A STUPID ARGUMENT TO DECIDE WHO IS CURRENTLY STRONGER. THERE WONT BE ANY ANSWERS TO THIS BECAUSE YOU ALL KEEP ACTING LIKE YOU CAN SEE THE FUTURE OR SOMETHING. FUCKING CALM DOWN. ALL OF YOU.

OBVIOUSLY LAXUS SHOWED GREAT ABILITY. BUT WAIT FOR JELLAL TO DEMONSTRATE HIS CURRENT STRENGTH. THIS IS NONSENSE.

The one who needs to calm down is you. If you read my post I also stated Laxus had much better feats pre-ts also like one shotting a 9D compared to Jellal getting thrashed around from 3 of the six OS members lol. Currently Jellal is getting help as it's Erza, and Kagura, fighting Neinhart while Laxus himself fought Wahl alone so at this point Jellal's hype is going down the drain. Also August casually intercepted Laxus attack and quite easily fended off against it which is already greater than any feat Jellal possesses currently and he actually has hype from people who currently stronger than Jellal himself.

 

[~Charging Lightning~]

I find it quite funny that a lot Laxus fan boys start to get mad when someone says another mage surpasses him. But in the end, the only thing they're doing is overrating Laxus and simply forget every feat other mages have shown, just because they don't want to accept Laxus weaker points.

Stop saying Jellal was oneshotted by Neinhart. He saved Kagura so he lost his attention at Neinhart's attacks. The same would happen to Laxus if he was on a ship and tried to save someone as Freed. Or well, I don't know if some Laxus fan boys think he is a heartless person. I'm sorry, but it's just ironic that people think Jellal is weak because he fell off a ship. Jellal will come back and take on Neinhart, just wait and see.

Now, let's take a look on the bright sides from Jellal.

+ He took down the Oración Seis on his own.
+ In the GMG, he was about to defeat Jura.
+ Sema is one of the highest AoE spell we've seen so far.

And now we'll look to Laxus his bright sides so everything is fair.

+ He took down a Spriggan.
+ Powerful spells.
+ He defeated Jura.

Sorry, but I don't see a lot difference when I compare the impressive things Jellal and Laxus showed me. Yes, Laxus defeated a Spriggan which is the most impressive thing of all his feats. But does this say he is stronger than Jellal? No. Why? Because Jellal didn't even had a chance to fight against one. So no, Laxus isn't stronger than Jellal because he defeated a Spriggan, since Jellal has yet to try.

Same counts for Laxus vs. Jura. If Jellal would've cast Sema, he would definitely defeat Jura. And once he did, he had less diff than Laxus had against Jura.

And then we've feats. Jellal's feats outclasses Laxus' feats.

Jellal:
Speed > Laxus (thanks to Meteor)
Defense > Laxus (thanks to Meteor)
Magic > Laxus (thanks to spell diversity).
AoE > Laxus (thanks to Sema)
Intelligence > Laxus

Laxus:
Stamina > Jellal

As for attack,
Jellal = Laxus

If someone disagrees, then tell me why. I will ignore every Laxus fanboy crap, just so you know.

Jellal surpasses Laxus in feats which seems like a fact to me.

Even as a Laxus fan myself, I can see how it's unfair to claim that Laxus is CONFIRMED to be stronger than Jellal since the latter hasn't shown what he can do yet. However, you keep saying that Jellal has better feats than Laxus as of right now. I'm sorry, but that makes no sense at all. All Jellal has done so far is take out two of Nineheart's fodder soldiers. That feat combined with his pre skip feats don't come anywhere close to the feat of defeating a Spriggan.

As of right now if we're talking strictly about feats ONLY:

Speed: Laxus>Jellal (blitzing a Spriggan is far more impressive than blitzing Jura or the oracion seis)
Durability: Laxus>Jellal (tanking Spriggan tiered attacks is more impressive than tanking Oracion Seis tiered attacks)
Damage output: Laxus>Jellal (red lightning essentially one shot Wahl which is more impressive than 2 shotting the Oracion Seis).
Intellegence: Jellal>Laxus (don't think I have to elaborate why)
Stamina: Laxus>Jellal (this is a given)

Obviously, these stats will most likley change when Jellal shows his full power, but feat wise right now, Laxus is clearly superior.

 

[Firepower]

@Loke @Jko you two have made the least amount of sense. It's no surprise you two are making a fus over this. I state the facts. Don't get mad if you kids can't handle it. Deal with the facts. I'm calm. You two need to get off the Jellal vs Laxus thing because it won't get you anywhere. Quit wasting everyone's reading time.

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The one who needs to calm down is you. If you read my post I also stated Laxus had much better feats pre-ts also like one shotting a 9D compared to Jellal getting thrashed around from 3 of the six OS members lol. Currently Jellal is getting help as it's Erza, and Kagura, fighting Neinhart while Laxus himself fought Wahl alone so at this point Jellal's hype is going down the drain. Also August casually intercepted Laxus attack and quite easily fended off against it which is already greater than any feat Jellal possesses currently and he actually has hype from people who currently stronger than Jellal himself.

No shit. So wait and see what these guys can do something nice the time skip. Otherwise you can continue to make stupid comments. You haven't said anything yet. If you don't know I think Laxus is greater but it's not smart to say that when one hasn't shown what he can do yet. What I base this on is before the time skip for both of them. Comparing one guy from his performance this arc against one who hasn't done anything yet and using a whole year back of feats proves you don't know what you're talking about. How the hell can two guys be compared this arc when one hasn't used magic yet? It makes no sense.

 

[Jko]

@Loke @Jko you two have made the least amount of sense. It's no surprise you two are making a fus over this. I state the facts. Don't get mad if you kids can't handle it. Deal with the facts. I'm calm. You two need to get off the Jellal vs Laxus thing because it won't get you anywhere. Quit wasting everyone's reading time.

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No shit. So wait and see what these guys can do something nice the time skip. Otherwise you can continue to make stupid comments. You haven't said anything yet. If you don't know I think Laxus is greater but it's not smart to say that when one hasn't shown what he can do yet. What I base this on is before the time skip for both of them. Comparing one guy from his performance this arc against one who hasn't done anything yet and using a whole year back of feats proves you don't know what you're talking about. How the hell can two guys be compared this arc when one hasn't used magic yet? It makes no sense.

If Laxus was greater pre-skip then it can be assumed he's stronger currently . Pre-ts Laxus > Pre-ts Jellal; current Laxus > current Jellal. If Jellal can't solo a Spriggan (he actually got knocked out lmao) then he ain't stronger than Laxus who fought a one while sick and the Spriggan held an advantage over him. Common sense dictates Laxus is stronger .

 

[Firepower]

If Laxus was greater pre-skip then it can be assumed he's stronger currently . Pre-ts Laxus > Pre-ts Jellal; current Laxus > current Jellal. If Jellal can't solo a Spriggan (he actually got knocked out lmao) then he ain't stronger than Laxus who fought a one while sick and the Spriggan held an advantage over him. Common sense dictates Laxus is stronger .

You have to go deeper than that kid. You don't know if Laxus would have beaten Jellal before the skip. Wishful thinking is all you have. So yeah it's not common sense, it's wishful thinking. You should figure out how to get common sense. Don't dictate what is and what is not. It is what it is. Not it is what you want it to be.

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If Laxus was greater pre-skip then it can be assumed he's stronger currently . Pre-ts Laxus > Pre-ts Jellal; current Laxus > current Jellal. If Jellal can't solo a Spriggan (he actually got knocked out lmao) then he ain't stronger than Laxus who fought a one while sick and the Spriggan held an advantage over him. Common sense dictates Laxus is stronger .

 

[Jko]

You have to go deeper than that kid. You don't know if Laxus would have beaten Jellal before the skip. Wishful thinking is all you have. So yeah it's not common sense, it's wishful thinking. You should figure out how to get common sense. Don't dictate what is and what is not. It is what it is. Not it is what you want it to be.

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Try harder. I haven't had a good debate for a while.

Pre-ts Jellal feats: Extreme diffs 4 out of 6 of the OS

Pre-ts Laxus: Solos Raven Tail, Beats Jura high diff and one shots a 9D
It's not wishful thinking it's common sense. Talk to me when Jellal doesn't get one shotted by a S12 .

 

[Firepower]

Pre-ts Jellal feats: Extreme diffs 4 out of 6 of the OS

Pre-ts Laxus: Solos Raven Tail, Beats Jura high diff and one shots a 9D
It's not wishful thinking it's common sense. Talk to me when Jellal doesn't get one shotted by a S12 .

Sure it is. If it makes you feel better. Lucy gets beaten up by Flare, but should have won if Obra didn't interfere. And here you are talking as if the losers from Raven tail are better than 4 seis. Which one of raven tail's members proved to be better than the seis? Jura's only option against Jellal was to shield, due to lacking offensive ability to counter his raining chariot attack. That's when Jellal was about to use sema if the girls didn't interfere.

 

[Jko]

Sure it is. If it makes you feel better. Lucy gets beaten up by Flare, but should have won if Obra didn't interfere. And here you are talking as if the losers from Raven tail are better than 4 seis. Which one of raven tail's members proved to be better than the seis? Jura's only option against Jellal was to shield, due to lacking offensive ability to counter his raining chariot attack. That's when Jellal was about to use sema if the girls didn't interfere.

Keep babbling. You wish it was common sense. If only you had any. lol

Hmm why bring up Lucy? Raven Tail didn't even give Laxus a mid diff fight while OS was smacking around Jellal. Jura smacked Jellal out of meteor and blocked Grand Chariot like child's play. Jellal's only way of harming Jura was Sema while Jura could have knocked out Jellal with one karate chop . Jura's karate chop >>>>>>>>>>> Angel's magic (wrecking Jellal the most out of OS).
When a guy who solos a Spriggan is on the same level as guy who got one shotted by one.

 

[Firepower]

Hmm why bring up Lucy? Raven Tail didn't even give Laxus a mid diff fight while OS was smacking around Jellal. Jura smacked Jellal out of meteor and blocked Grand Chariot like child's play while Jellal only way of harming Jura was Sema.... Jura could have knocked out Jellal with one karate chop. Jura's karate chop >>>>>>>>>>> Angel's magic (wrecking Jellal the most out of OS).

If only you had facts/feats to back up your wishful thinking . When a guy who solos a Spriggan is on the same level as guy who got one shotted by one.

You haven't made any points yet. Why did I bring up Flare? Maybe it was to try and guage some members of her guild's strength. Catching on? True that Jura was continually getting the better of Jellal when he used his Mystogan's sticks. When he got serious he got hit in the air as you said. But you can never tell if Sema would have finished the job. If it did that would be something. Can't be helped. Outside interference prevented it. So explain how this weak Raven tail proves more impressive than beating the seis? No one's known their strength. They just showed up in the gmg. What logic do you have that it's more of a feat? How stupidly stubborn can you get? Here you are talking about the Alvarez arc again. Hiro had Jellal out from saving Kagura for plot. Had she or Erza not been around he'd be able to prove if he can solo a spriggan or not. Plus this isn't a tournament. It's war. They aren't trying to see who can solo a spriggan. It's good that the thunder tribe were out too otherwise Laxus wouldn't have been able to prove he could solo a spriggan. Child please see the conditions of what's happening. Having three mages together does not mean they are lacking equal power. From the story so far Natsu whooped both of them. Had to eat etherion rock to get df and win. Had to depend on Gajeel to assist. Both Jellal and Laxus proved they are very strong. Laxus even acknowledging Mystogan as the only Mage that can give him a real fight. Mystogan isn't stronger than Jellal. They are the same person, except one depended on sticks. Both had their fights after the seven year skip, and neither one choose their opponents. Calm down and wait to compare their current strength after they both fought.

 

[SirSamuel016]

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[Jko]

You haven't made any points yet. Why did I bring up Flare? Maybe it was to try and guage some members of her guild's strength. Catching on? True that Jura was continually getting the better of Jellal when he used his Mystogan's sticks. When he got serious he got hit in the air as you said. But you can never tell if Sema would have finished the job. If it did that would be something. Can't be helped. Outside interference prevented it. So explain how this weak Raven tail proves more impressive than beating the seis? No one's known their strength. They just showed up in the gmg. What logic do you have that it's more of a feat? How stupidly stubborn can you get? Here you are talking about the Alvarez arc again. Hiro had Jellal out from saving Kagura for plot. Had she or Erza not been around he'd be able to prove if he can solo a spriggan or not. Plus this isn't a tournament. It's war. They aren't trying to see who can solo a spriggan. It's good that the thunder tribe were out too otherwise Laxus wouldn't have been able to prove he could solo a spriggan. Child please see the conditions of what's happening. Having three mages together does not mean they are lacking equal power. From the story so far Natsu whooped both of them. Had to eat etherion rock to get df and win. Had to depend on Gajeel to assist. Both Jellal and Laxus proved they are very strong. Laxus even acknowledging Mystogan as the only Mage that can give him a real fight. Mystogan isn't stronger than Jellal. They are the same person, except one depended on sticks. Both had their fights after the seven year skip, and neither one choose their opponents. Calm down and wait to compare their current strength after they both fought.

Meteor is not Mystogan power it's Jellal and Jura hit him out of it. Also I thought you don't go off speculation? Jura might've been harmed but there's nothing to suggest he'd be KOed. Getting one shot by a Spriggan and then needing two other WS level characters to back you up when fighting that same Spriggan does not put you on the level of a character that can solo a Spriggan.

Raven Tail had members that were even stronger than Max (like Nullpudding and the Mimicry mage) who low diff pre-ts Natsu so that'll put those Raven Tail members above even OS members (like Angel, Racer and Cobra as they weaker then Tenrou Natsu). Tartaros >> GMG >> Seven Kin > Edo Erza > OS. Do you see why I don't consider taking only four OS members a noteworthy feat?

You have gave no feats to suggest that Jellal is on Laxus level and I'm still waiting on something that suggest Jellal is on Laxus level. Laxus both pre-ts and currently is above Jellal and all the feats show it.

 

[Firepower]

Meteor is not Mystogan power it's Jellal and Jura hit him out of it. Getting one shot by a Spriggan and then needing two other WS level characters to back you up when fighting that same Spriggan does not put you on the level of a character that can solo a Spriggan.

Raven Tail had members that were even stronger than Max (like Nullpudding and the Mimicry mage) who low diff pre-ts Natsu so that'll put those Raven Tail members above even OS members (like Angel, Racer and Cobra as they weaker then Tenrou Natsu). Tartaros >> GMG >> Seven Kin > Edo Erza > OS. Do you see why I don't consider taking only four OS members a noteworthy feat?

You have gave no feats to suggest that Jellal is on Laxus level and I'm still waiting on something that suggest Jellal is on Laxus level. Laxus both pre-ts and currently is above Jellal and all the feats show it.

Did I say meteor was Mystogan's power? I said he got hit while flying around. Nothing major. Same way he hit Jura flying at him. Nothing major either. Like I originally said when the whole Jellal vs Laxus started. Jellal seems fragile after getting knocked out, but had Kagura not been there that wouldn't have happened.

Max was knocked out in the bar during the gmg. Cobra showed up during the games and didn't look any more overmatched then the other ds. Therefore shutting down your Max comparison of the seis strength. Please keep trying to twist things in your favor. I'm not siding with Jellal. He deserves a fair chance. Plus the first comment I made to you is that it cannot be decided how strong is Jellal this arc, because he hasn't used any magic yet. and he is not the type that has the best physical strength. Yeah he was able to deal with Natsu's physical strength, but against bigger stronger guys like Jura and Laxus, he is outmatched there. I did say he has a bag of many types of magic that more than make up for it. Everyone's strength grew and are still likely the same when in comparison to one another, except that they are much stronger now. Natsu is the one exception that's catching up to those who were stronger than him before the skip. I'm sorry for saying you lack common sense. I'll try to keep it clean, but if you give me reason I won't hesitate either. I get what you're saying. I always thought Laxus was stronger, slightly. But until we see all of Jellal's abilities and his current strength there aren't anything much to prove it. It's too soon. Jellal getting knocked out was weak, but it was to save Kagura. Not because they needed to save him.

 

[Jko]

Did I say meteor was Mystogan's power? I said he got hit while flying around. Nothing major. Same way he hit Jura flying at him. Nothing major either. Like I originally said when the whole Jellal vs Laxus started. Jellal seems fragile after getting knocked out, but had Kagura not been there that wouldn't have happened.

Max was knocked out in the bar during the gmg. Cobra showed up during the games and didn't look any more overmatched then the other ds. Therefore shutting down your Max comparison of the seis strength. Please keep trying to twist things in your favor. I'm not siding with Jellal. He deserves a fair chance. Plus the first comment I made to you is that it cannot be decided how strong is Jellal this arc, because he hasn't used any magic yet. and he is not the type that has the best physical strength. Yeah he was able to deal with Natsu's physical strength, but against bigger stronger guys like Jura and Laxus, he is outmatched there. I did say he has a bag of many types of magic that more than make up for it. Everyone's strength grew and are still likely the same when in comparison to one another, except that they are much stronger now. Natsu is the one exception that's catching up to those who were stronger than him before the skip. I'm sorry for saying you lack common sense. I'll try to keep it clean, but if you give me reason I won't hesitate either. I get what you're saying. I always thought Laxus was stronger, slightly. But until we see all of Jellal's abilities and his current strength there aren't anything much to prove it. It's too soon. Jellal getting knocked out was weak, but it was to save Kagura. Not because they needed to save him.

Eh read your post wrong.

Max was low diffing Natsu before Second Origin but Natsu no diff him after Second Origin. How is Cobra as strong as the other DF? He's been in prison and only has the strength he had in the OS arc so no he was still weaker than Max.

We can give Jellal the benefit of the doubt but currently it doesn't look so good for him.

 

[Firepower]

Eh read your post wrong.

Max was low diffing Natsu before Second Origin but Natsu no diff him after Second Origin. How is Cobra as strong as the other DF? He's been in prison and only has the strength he had in the OS arc so no he was still weaker than Max.

We can give Jellal the benefit of the doubt but currently it doesn't look so good for him.

Df is dragon force. Ds is dragon slayer. Max was not low doffing Natsu. He was able to cancel out Natsu's regular attacks. If Natsu's last attack hit Max, Mac would have died, just like he said. Got so scared he gave up. If Cobra was that weak he'd have no speed or any ability to keep from being killed by the dragon. He was in prison, but he did enough to keep from getting killed like the other ds. If he never got stronger and was as weak as Max than he'd have died without a doubt. Don't ask me how he got stronger. I don't know that, but in performance he survived the dragons like all the other ds were only capable of also. If I had to guess how Cobra got stronger it would have been from getting older, from maturing. Plus magic power is gained from concentration an focus if I remeber it correctly. In prison I'm not sure if they were chained to the wall, but they couldn't have been all the time if they needed to eat, use the restrooms, and possibly shower. So they might have had the chance for physical training too. Regardless of whatever they did in prison Cobra was dealing with his dragon equally as the other ds have.

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Eh read your post wrong.

Max was low diffing Natsu before Second Origin but Natsu no diff him after Second Origin. How is Cobra as strong as the other DF? He's been in prison and only has the strength he had in the OS arc so no he was still weaker than Max.

We can give Jellal the benefit of the doubt but currently it doesn't look so good for him.

So I wouldn't say that fighting the seis was nothing. Having his own ability to deal with Cobra's mind reading and Racer's speed at the same time is not easy. Plus dealing with Midnight's illusion hax is not easy for anyone. Maybe a ds can deal with it because of smell, but that's just from bad matchup. So that is a feat showing he was still relevant.

 

[Jko]

Df is dragon force. Ds is dragon slayer. Max was not low doffing Natsu. He was able to cancel out Natsu's regular attacks. If Natsu's last attack hit Max, Mac would have died, just like he said. Got so scared he gave up. If Cobra was that weak he'd have no speed or any ability to keep from being killed by the dragon. He was in prison, but he did enough to keep from getting killed like the other ds. If he never got stronger and was as weak as Max than he'd have died without a doubt. Don't ask me how he got stronger. I don't know that, but in performance he survived the dragons like all the other ds were only capable of also. If I had to guess how Cobra got stronger it would have been from getting older, from maturing. Plus magic power is gained from concentration an focus if I remeber it correctly. In prison I'm not sure if they were chained to the wall, but they couldn't have been all the time if they needed to eat, use the restrooms, and possibly shower. So they might have had the chance for physical training too. Regardless of whatever they did in prison Cobra was dealing with his dragon equally as the other ds have.

They even stated that Max was pretty much banging Natsu until he went LFD and used his max roar (which would have one shotted any of OS). You can't get stronger from doing nothing. They shut off their magic while they were stuck in prison so they couldn't amp their mp. We saw what the prison did to the prisoners which was keep them unhealthy and just allowed them to sit only in cell so they weren't getting stronger physically either. All he did was ineffective attacks just like the rest of the DS that doesn't mean he was dealing with them equally. Also all those DS were previously injured bcs of the GMG or fighting the Castle Soldiers.

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So I wouldn't say that fighting the seis was nothing. Having his own ability to deal with Cobra's mind reading and Racer's speed at the same time is not easy. Plus dealing with Midnight's illusion hax is not easy for anyone. Maybe a ds can deal with it because of smell, but that's just from bad matchup. So that is a feat showing he was still relevant.

During the Tartaros arc where all the characters have been amped so it's not a very impressive feat.

 

[Firepower]

They even stated that Max was pretty much banging Natsu until he went LFD and used his max roar (which would have one shotted any of OS). You can't get stronger from doing nothing. They shut off their magic while they were stuck in prison so they couldn't amp their mp. We saw what the prison did to the prisoners which was keep them unhealthy and just allowed them to sit only in cell so they weren't getting stronger physically either. All he did was ineffective attacks just like the rest of the DS that doesn't mean he was dealing with them equally. Also all those DS were previously injured bcs of the GMG or fighting the Castle Soldiers.

I just said concentration and focus is the practice they use to improve magic strength, and that they can't eat or shit while chained to a wall. Then I said it didn't matter because Cobra didn't do any worse than the other ds against the dragons.

That's why I said if he was really that weak a eat would have gone and brought him just to get killed. So obviously Cobra wasn't trash. Before the year skip no one had a magic attack as massive as Jellal's sema. He is strong. After he shows what he can do this arc, then I won't argue about it. He deserves a fair chance. Honestly if he hit Jura with sema, I think Jura would be knocked out. If his sema could not then Jellal wouldn't be as great as some of us think.

So it's really hard to decide right now who is stronger until both show their strength this arc. If you want to argue about previous strength, why not go to domus flau and compare them before and after each time skip?

 

[BluePegasus]

Kinda hard to overrated the one that actually lives up to his hype. The one that's constantly nerfed by the creator just to give his opponents a chance. Just saying.



Except he was. No way around it.



Baseless. Let's not lump Laxus in with that pitiful display. He saved Makarov and company from Ajeel's Sands of Death without sustaining injury.



Fell off a ship? He was blasted off. That small attack knocked him unconscious hence why he needed to be carried to the surface by Kagura. Shit durability confirmed for Jellal.



Obviously thanks to Kagura.



So somehow the guy beating Spriggans and Wizard Saints is weaker than the guy beating OS fodder. K. You can make all the assumptions you like regarding whether Sema would have taken out Jura or not but the fact is he had to use it with Grand Chariot just to beat OS, so yeah, doubtful.



That's the most impressive thing between the both of them, not just Laxus.



He had a chance, he just got one shot.



Again this is baseless. You have no way of proving who would have won that.



We've seen him beat fodder. Whether that outclasses a guy who holds victories over a Wizard Saint and a Spriggan..yeah..you'd have to be a bonafide fanboy to state this.

I will just ignore this. In the end, all your claims are based on the fact that you're a fan from Laxus.

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Speed: Laxus>Jellal (blitzing a Spriggan is far more impressive than blitzing Jura or the oracion seis)

It's not based on the fact he blitzed Jura or the Oración Seis, it's based on the fact he blitzed Racer. Racer's magic is related to speed and we all know that he probably is one of the fastest mages in the Fairy Tail universe. Blitzing someone as Racer is more impressive than blitzing a Spriggan.

Durability: Laxus>Jellal (tanking Spriggan tiered attacks is more impressive than tanking Oracion Seis tiered attacks)

Damage output: Laxus>Jellal (red lightning essentially one shot Wahl which is more impressive than 2 shotting the Oracion Seis).

Jellal never had the chance to cast Sema at stronger opponents, so we'll have to wait before we can see this.

Intellegence: Jellal>Laxus (don't think I have to elaborate why)

Stamina: Laxus>Jellal (this is a given)

Agreed.

 

[Jko]

I just said concentration and focus is the practice they use to improve magic strength, and that they can't eat or shit while chained to a wall. Then I said it didn't matter because Cobra didn't do any worse than the other ds against the dragons.

That's why I said if he was really that weak a eat would have gone and brought him just to get killed. So obviously Cobra wasn't trash. Before the year skip no one had a magic attack as massive as Jellal's sema. He is strong. After he shows what he can do this arc, then I won't argue about it. He deserves a fair chance. Honestly if he hit Jura with sema, I think Jura would be knocked out. If his sema could not then Jellal wouldn't be as great as some of us think.

So it's really hard to decide right now who is stronger until both show their strength this arc. If you want to argue about previous strength, why not go to domus flau and compare them before and after each time skip?

How can he concentrate on amping his magic when their a seal that block his magic from being used? If he has no magic to concentrate towards strengthening then he can't strengthen his magic.

What? Just bcs the other DS didn't do good doesn't mean they're all on the same level. With this kind of thought that's like saying Gajeel is as strong as Laxus bcs they both were ineffective to dragon which obviously he wasn't.

I don't get your entire first sentence so can you explain again? Cobra is the same strength as the OS arc and their was nothing to suggest they trained in prison (it would be stupid of the magic council to allow them to have their prisoners get stronger anywaylol).

OS were still conscious after the attack and he needed Grand Chariot combined with Sema to take them out. It wouldn't really make sense if Jura was knocked unconscious by Sema when severely weaker opponents weren't.

Current Jellal is strength is still unknown is true but with what he's got currently he doesn't look like he's on Laxus level. I don't really care to get into a long tedious debate but if someone makes it I'll put in my thoughts on the matter.

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It's not based on the fact he blitzed Jura or the Oración Seis, it's based on the fact he blitzed Racer. Racer's magic is related to speed and we all know that he probably is one of the fastest mages in the Fairy Tail universe. Blitzing someone as Racer is more impressive than blitzing a Spriggan.

That's wrong on so many level. Racer would get smashed by any main GMG character in any stat let alone him blitzing a Spriggan. That guy was guy couldn't even blitz pre-1st TS Erza even with the help of 2 other OS members and you really think blitzing him is greater than blitzing a Spriggan?

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[BluePegasus]

That's wrong on so many level. Racer would get smashed by any main GMG character in any stat let alone him blitzing a Spriggan. That guy was guy couldn't even blitz pre-1st TS Erza even with the help of 2 other OS members and you really think blitzing him is greater than blitzing a Spriggan?

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Wahl isn't faster than Racer. So by your logic, every main GMG character could blitz Wahl with ease.

 

[Jko]

Wahl isn't faster than Racer. So by your logic, every main GMG character could blitz Wahl with ease.

Yes, he is. He kept up with Laxus and would kill Racer with a regular missile which Racer wouldn't even be able to perceive the attack. Heck his proxy could kill Racer so fast Racer wouldn't even known the battle has started lol. Where are you getting Racer is one of the fastest in the universe? Inb4 Racer could blitz Acnologia.