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Notice Acnologia has never outrightly attacked humans? He only attacks people who threaten humanity i.e Zeref on Tenrou and E.N.D on Cube...personally I think he knew how much Anna loved humanity so he wanted to protect it for her
ok it's your opinion i will respect it it possible that Acnologia doing it from the reason you point out atm i have rights and material to deny it :) ( Manga didn't go that far :P).

But why do i think he despise people well in Future Rogue timeline ( this timeline future lucy was from other timeline however the the future is changed atm Frosch it's alive ) Acnologia took over the world and eradicate whole countries ( only some people are alive in fear of Acnologia) right now we are at the start of these events future Rogue was talking about ( Frosch future have changed thanks to Natsu :P) but that doesn't change Acnologia character and he will took over the world in 6 more years ( if i'm not mistaken ) unless he will be stopped the Ragnarok/Dragon King Festival starts now.<< Just my opinion :P

It's getting a litle offtopic ( from my side :P ) so i suggest we move there if you wanna continue :) ( i don't :P) https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/legendary-dragon-slayer-acnologia.2994680/
 

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Actually AnnaLogia (Anna x Acnologia) shipping increasingly becomes so popular recently on tumblr. I am generally neutral to this ship. I wouldn't be surprised if Mashima-sensei makes this happen.

Acnologia's backstory is the most mysterious thing in this series. He only cares for dragon slayers (recently) and he said he wants to once again earn the title "King of Dragons".
 

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Actually AnnaLogia (Anna x Acnologia) shipping increasingly becomes so popular recently on tumblr. I am generally neutral to this ship. I wouldn't be surprised if Mashima-sensei makes this happen.

Acnologia's backstory is the most mysterious thing in this series. He only cares for dragon slayers (recently) and he said he wants to once again earn the title "King of Dragons".
Basically this, I wouldn't want the ship if it's forced but if Hiro finesses it the right way I wouldn't mind

and tumblr ships everything, they shipped Azuma and Ikaruga cause he asked if she was dead too:facepalm
 

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And tumblr ships everything, they shipped Azuma and Ikaruga cause he asked if she was dead too:facepalm
If characters appear on the same panel you can ship them if they talk with each other it's a canon :P ( didn't know it ? it's rules number one and two :P )

And yet no love for my Ship Milliannax****( you know who i talk about :P) :spaz
Also after thinking about i wil stand for one Ship LyonxMeldy ( synchronized stripping during double date would be dope ) :zomg
 
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If characters appear on the same panel it's a ship if they talk with each other it's a canon :P ( didn't know it ? it's rules number one and two :P )

And yet no love for my Ship Milliannax****( you know who i talk about :P) :spaz
Also after thinking about i wil stand for one Ship LyonxMeldy ( synchronized stripping during double date would be dope ) :zomg
lmaooo let's not talk about CatDog, if this ends up being canon I'll bleach my eyes

"synchronized stripping during double date would be dope" this is still funny every time and you're using my words:D :D

I think the most likely crackship that will be canon next is Miraxus which is actually a good crackship I support
 
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lmaooo let's not talk about CatDog, if this ends up being canon I'll bleach my eyes
Excepted reaction :derp
"I'll bleach my eyes" I will be the first one to remind you of this :)

"synchronized stripping during double date would be dope" this is still funny every time and you're using my words:D :D

I think the most likely crackship that will be canon nexst is Miraxus which is actually a good crackship I support
One word "dope" :P
I don't know how to feel about Miraxus if this will happen i like them both even some side characters crack ships ( YukinoxSting just example :P) have better relationship build up then the characters we see more in the show :P.. Also there is another note of Laxus coat that would look great on Brandish :teehee
 
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Excepted reaction :derp
"I'll bleach my eyes" I will be the first one to remind you of this :)


One word "dope" :P
I don't know how to feel about Miraxus if this will happen i like them both even some side characters crack ships ( YukinoxSting just example :P) have better relationship build up then the characters we see more in the show :P.. Also there is another note of Laxus coat that would look great on Brandish :teehee
Lol whatever go ahead and remind me.. it won't happen or goodbye to my eyeballs :o

YukinoxSting is another good crack ship I would like to happen, same as RoguexMinerva (they were going to destroy Avatar together, that counts as a date right :cheez) Hiro always seem to appease the shippers somehow, he really does read fanmail cause even though he admitted that Zervis was something he planned on since the Tenrou Island arc he said that alot of people wishes came true, so he must enjoy that

Randi would deff look dope in Laxus' coat, or Natsu's clothes :teehee
 

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Notice Acnologia has never outrightly attacked humans? He only attacks people who threaten humanity i.e Zeref on Tenrou and E.N.D on Cube...personally I think he knew how much Anna loved humanity so he wanted to protect it for her
He went after the Fairy Tail guild, and Gildarts, and God Serena. In Rogue's future he dominated the world. I wouldn't say Acnologia goes out of his way to protect humanity.
 

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Wow... things got heated in here quickly, huh? Just swinging by to share some more new Jerza art I did... .
Naw lol just stating each other's argument. Bottom line, Natsu and Gray both are way way different when it comes to handling a female. Each are/can be further along than the other when it comes to handling certain facets of a relationship. It is what it is
 

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It's denial, you've seen this from the jump when Erza was talking to him about outside their hotel. Gray is the anti-Naruto, he is at least aware that Juvia likes him but at the same time Hinata never was a crazy bitch like Juvia lol. But you get my point

One reason Natsu is the GOAT is because he's aware of his surroundings, literally and figuratively when it comes to stuff like this. My dude is a idiot but is mature when it comes to feelings of people, so if he was in Gray's situation he would he either go with her or just turn her ass down, no bullshit dodging her or rejecting her daily. Natsu might be the most aware of his emotions than anyone in the series, I'm deadass too, sounds funny but it's all the truth, throw some RESPECK on his name *Birdman voice* :hip
You must be confused about what I said. I said people who refer to Gruvia as "onesided" are in denial.

You have read Rie-Rie's tumblr post, so I'm so you are now are that.

Gray isn't the anti-Naruto, not sure you even aware of how the comparison isn't applicable whatsoever. They have similar aspects as characters as well. (Tragic past, caring for comrades, etc) Juvia isn't a crazy bitch either, her personality is exaggerated by mashima at times for comedic relief moments.

Natsu is aware of his surroundings when it comes to shit like this and is "mature" about it? Which is why he goes around purposely and casually touching Lucy's breasts, and not giving shit about what she has to say and inconsiderate to her feelings. Not even apologizing meanwhile \individuals like Gray and Jellal go ahead and apologize right away when they accidentally actually touch a girl's breasts. The same Natsu who abandons Lucy for a year with just a single scribbled note without even having a talk with her and when they finally meet each other, the Natsu doesn't have the decency to even apologize and is stubborn enough in his own ego to not admit his faults and mistakes. You're talking about that Natsu??? Lucy was so hurt by him that she brought the situation up several times when Natsu was being hypocritical on the Juvia-Gray situation in the Avatar arc. Are you talking about that Natsu who is mature when it comes to feelings? Then you say he's aware of his surroundings? He's even clueless with his BS when it comes to Lucy having a crush on him while so many hints are thrown at him where he just treats Lucy as just another nakama. Gray on the other hand is aware of Juvia's feelings but since he's had inexperience when it comes to romance, he didn't know how to handle it a year ago, until currently when he's become mature in that aspect and developed as a whole while living with Juvia to give her a perfect response after the talk they had prior to the war. Natsu can't even handle his own emotions when he goes around wrecking people's guild and hurting over a girl and you believe he's mature when it comes to people's feelings and you go around saying he's the best in being aware of his own emotions??? I think your post is very highly disagreeable.

It's easy to say if hypothetically oh Natsu would "handle" Juvia's feelings great and the situation better if he was put in Gray's shoes, when he has yet to show these accomplishments to any particular individual who has a strong attachment of feelings and crush on him. and so far is sucking massively when it comes to how he's handling Lucy's feelings so far and blowing it. Easy to fanboy on Natsu but nothing to show for it. Meanwhile Gray is shown to apologize to Juvia if he has hurted or and thanked her nicely for always being with him this whole time while accepting..

People keep saying Gray rejects Juvia daily when he did it just once, and that too for a comedy relief moment based on how Juvia's confession and reactions to Gray's word were protrayed to as. It's really humorous people take that scene serious as if they don't understand the context of the situation and exaggerate in their bias against Gruvia to create red herrings.. As for dodging, I'm not sure that you are aware of this but every woman that has been close emotionally and mentally to Gray has been hurt, killed when associated with him. Gray caring for Juvia, mentally believes she should stay away from him because he doesn't want Juvia to end up as the women that were associated with him... However a year later, he has made a significant progress on that in changing that belief in regards with his talk with Juvia prior the war starting from Ajeel's ambush. Also another reason for the dodge, is for comedic relief tsundere moments, as well as teasing the fans. Mashima loves to tease the fans (Jerza being the latest victim), that's why he doesn't want to rush the pairings and make them canon quickly, because what's the fun in that? Why not have it slowly develop and then make them canon at the end of the series.


It's funny cause I was actually giving Gray props for not being the normal oblivious dumbass lol but you calling me a Natsu fanboy... more like I was giving the pros and cons to both Natsu and Gray, without really bashing either. But you read it like I was bashing Gray, then go on to call yourself a Gray fanboy... I'm lost :facepalm

If anything, I don't know what show you've watching but when has Lucy ever made her feelings for Natsu "direct?" When I miss her showing repeated signs of unrequited love towards Natsu... on the daily? I've never seen that all, to be real. Natsu and Lucy share that type of relationship where they're like best friends, but understand each other truly to the point their comfortable with each other's person, even with both (mainly Natsu) showing their flaws. Natsu and Lucy is the classic "let's grow together, progression slowly but eventual" type of relationship, where you know that it'll happen when it happens, and it won't be forced. Whereas Juvia, as pressed as she, went the route to get with Gray cause he literally cleared her skies. That's cool with me, I fuck with it. But to say Gray doesn't purposely reject and turn down Juvia more often that not instead of keeping it 100 is obvious bias. I saw the tumblr post, it was dope and I agreed with it, Gray eventually went from a "this bitch again" mentality to a "well I don't really mind it" type of mindset when dealing with Juvia has been good to see. It's not. that. deep. fam. Trust me on this, I've never been a fanboy lol I just can see where both sides are coming from, without playing the favorite (we all do to an extent for our favorite character) as much.

Maybe you didn't put much thought into what I said, assuming I'm taking shots at your obvious fav character while promoting mine.. never been the type to diss :bnah I just call it how I see it, flat out
It didn't see from the way you worded your post, because if you read it again, you can see the display of favouritism to Natsu toward your whole content.. You just said Natsu is your boy (referring to yourself as his fanboy), and then went to favour him by saying some questionable remarks with no proof that he somehow is "mature" about people's feelings when there' s literally no feats of his maturity, or how he's aware of his surroundings and best at controlling the emotions when there's no proof of it.
Please list the cons you made for Natsu and the pros for Gray in that post you made.
and as far as I can tell you have yet to prove these comments you made when there were countered against you.

Where does Gray purposely reject and turn down Juvia for real? He may refuse her but obviously he doesn't mean it.
Here: You didn't read my post:
If he rejected her and turned her own, he wouldn't allow her in her house, he wouldn't be sitting by her during their date with Lyon, etc.

Also this:
Gray on the other hand is aware of Juvia's feelings but since he's had inexperience when it comes to romance, he didn't know how to handle it a year ago, until currently when he's become mature in that aspect and developed as a whole while living with Juvia to give her a perfect response after the talk they had prior to the war.

Can you try to counter this argument I made instead of saying it's completely bias: (when I can easily you're being biased by the comment you made)

"People keep saying Gray rejects Juvia daily when he did it just once, and that too for a comedy relief moment based on how Juvia's confession and reactions to Gray's word were portrayed to as. It's really humorous people take that scene serious as if they don't understand the context of the situation and exaggerate in their bias against Gruvia to create red herrings.. As for dodging, I'm not sure that you are aware of this but every woman that has been close emotionally and mentally to Gray has been hurt, killed when associated with him. Gray caring for Juvia, mentally believes she should stay away from him because he doesn't want Juvia to end up as the women that were associated with him... However a year later, he has made a significant progress on that in changing that belief in regards with his talk with Juvia prior the war starting from Ajeel's ambush. Also another reason for the dodge, is for comedic relief tsundere moments, as well as teasing the fans. Mashima loves to tease the fans (Jerza being the latest victim), that's why he doesn't want to rush the pairings and make them canon quickly, because what's the fun in that? Why not have it slowly develop and then make them canon at the end of the series".

Never said you bashed Gray. Where did I say that? :bnah
I don't know what show you're watching because it's clear that Lucy has shown great feats of showing affectionate behaviour toward Natsu that she has not shown any other male. Even in her own sleep, she uttered Natsu's name. It's even obvious how direct her feelings are when she's shown to be flustered, angry and disgruntled during their talk with each during in regards to Natsu's abandoning her. She could've let it go if Natsu was just a comrade, but she didn't for a reason. Natsu simply didn't realize that.

@ Bold, you know why the change in Gray's mindset? Maturing in a year's time and spending quality time with Juvia for 6 whole months. That's character development at it's best from mah boi Gray.

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If characters appear on the same panel you can ship them if they talk with each other it's a canon :P ( didn't know it ? it's rules number one and two :P )

And yet no love for my Ship Milliannax****( you know who i talk about :P) :spaz
Also after thinking about i wil stand for one Ship LyonxMeldy ( synchronized stripping during double date would be dope ) :zomg
Lyon x Meredy has good chances of happening now, while Lyon found Meredy cute, I always thought they were made for each during the GMG arc when they were together as well. Synchronized stripping can happen if they live together for 6 months like Gruvia has :)
 
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I'm a huge Gruvia fan and Juvia is the only reason why i still have a little admiration for his character when she is around, i even fangirling like her Gray sama......... Gray didn't do anything for Juvia till this very day and always cold with her and ignoring her love, he left her behind she got ill and sad,
Natsu wasn't hypocrite when he admonished him, everyone knew that Juvia love Gray and it would have been nice of him if he left any letter for her or anything.
Why Natsu ain't a hypocrite because he isn't certain about Lucy's feelings towards him despite that he left a letter for her only.. He went through a serious tragic hard situation alone his father died before his very eyes no one was there for him to ease the pain he take it all alone unlike Gray his father died before and the second time Juvia was there for him despite all of that he left her behind the poor Juvia suffered too much because of him. He doesn't deserve Juvia tbh she is too much for him but it can't be helped since she likes him.
 
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Gray didn't do anything for Juvia till this very day? Not sure how anyone can even believe that.
-He saved her life on certain occasions (saved her falling off a balcony, saved her against the dragon off-springs, saved her against Ultear)
He was the reason Juvia was not so gloomy anymore and made her shine and see a sunny day.
At this moment Juvia wouldn't be so happy and excited in the FT Guild and share relationship also with other characters if it wasn't for her meeting with Gray.

Natsu's a hypocrite, Lucy was right when she called him that. Dude disappeared out of nowhere, and downplays Lucy's feelings and emotions when she called him out on it. Then he has the nerve to play double standards in apprehending Gray without looking at the context, and failure to look at the mirror and realize how dumb he's sounding.

Gray goes ahead held her hand and comforted her that he's with her all step in the way, when she was scared in the Tartaros arc.
-Worried for her while others were partying their asses off in the renion during Tenrou sland. He was shown to be disappointed that Juvia didn't win, so obviously he was rooting for her in the S-Class trials.

He straight up goes ahead and thanks Juvia for always being with him in a honest positive manner. suggesting whether she would like to eat his food. recommending her how to eat, and even shared his feelings with her and cried his heart out to her to which he generally doesn't do for anyone else in regards to his emotional tragic revelations regarding Silver, it just shows how close Gray feels toward Juvia. He even says I'm sorry you had to go through that.

-They practically Lived together with each other for 6 months without any hardship is proof in the pudding.

As for ignoring her, I made that extremely clear as to why he did so.
-Lack of experience in the past timeskip.
-Comedy relief
-Teasing the fans, etc.
Currently he's showing great utmost maturity when handling Juvia.

Gray deserves Juvia as much as anyone would in that position. Ridiculous post.

Lucy suffered so much because of Natsu and made her shed so many tears. Gray atleast has the deceny follow up and apologize even though it wasn't just his fault but Erza's too, and he didn't go on his own will (since originally he wanted Juvia to accompany him) he followed Erza's orders just for Juvia's safety so she doesn't get in the way of the danger. If he wrote a letter, it would defeat the purpose of protecting Juvia.

Natsu doesn't deserve Lucy when he disrespects her emotions when she had a problem with him, doesn't apologize to her, abandons her, and then outright touches her private parts and makes lofty excuses while he's at it. Tbh she is too much for him but it can't be helped since she likes him. It's primarily reasons like Natsu big ego and lack of consideration as to why I don't like his character.
 
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The things Natsu has done for lucy outnumber the things that gray did for Juvia..:zomg
What Natsu did for Lucy to prove that he isn't carefree about her ? he gifted her a floating tree when she was ill - he united the guild back for her when there was no hope... Lucy abandon the war and sit with Natsu until he is fully recovered again - she always believing in him - she always hugging him when she feel safe because of him that's why both of them derserve to be together moreover Natsu never disrespect Lucy he always supporting her and believe in her and lucy didn't call Natsu "hypocrite" :verily It's kinda funny because Juvia is the one who always do nice thing for gray and he never pay back the kindness but with cold reactions. Hiro need to give him a better development towards Juvia.
 
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I'm a huge Gruvia fan and Juvia is the only reason why i still have a little admiration for his character when she is around, i even fangirling like her Gray sama......... Gray didn't do anything for Juvia till this very day and always cold with her and ignoring her love, he left her behind she got ill and sad,
Natsu wasn't hypocrite when he admonished him, everyone knew that Juvia love Gray and it would have been nice of him if he left any letter for her or anything.
Why Natsu ain't a hypocrite because he isn't certain about Lucy's feelings towards him despite that he left a letter for her only.. He went through a serious tragic hard situation alone his father died before his very eyes no one was there for him to ease the pain he take it all alone unlike Gray his father died before and the second time Juvia was there for him despite all of that he left her behind the poor Juvia suffered too much because of him. He doesn't deserve Juvia tbh she is too much for him but it can't be helped since she likes him.
Well Natsu did have Happy, one of his best friends, that has lived with him since he found him. So it's not like he had no one, plus it was Natsu's choice to have "no one", everyone in FT would have been there for him. Not to mention even from a friend's perspective, what he did to Lucy and everyone in FT was ridiculous. I understand Natsu had lost his Dad, but I mean come on, he can't even talk to his friends at all before he just essentially says "piece out I'm going to train for a year" lol. Natsu is just not a very mature character, a trait he shares with a lot of main Shonen protagonists. Gray has grown way more throughout the series. He has constantly had to face his own demons, with Ur,Lyon and his Dad. Natsu did have a big moment with Igneel, but instead of dealing with things with his so called "family" at FT, he left and said nothing to anyone but Lucy through a letter. Then he comes back and is shocked people have moved on lol. Where as Gray opened up to Juvia, even crying and thanking her for being there for him. The whole thing during the time skip with Gray leaving Juvia, was not great, but he and Erza did it for a reason. Then when he saw her he apologized, something Natsu never did. I just think overall I have enjoyed Juvia and Gray's relationship more than Natsu and Lucy's. All in all though neither one of them are realistic really, and I don't think Natsu and Lucy's relationship is bad. I just think the comedy and the development with Gray and Juvia is better.
 
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Proof is in the manga
1)Proof is already evident that Gray has displayed better development to Juvia than he has in the past.
(Thanking her, saving her to a point that he even died for her, apologizing to her when there's an issue, being greatful toward her, rooting for her, worrying for her, and even when he was thinkign about his friends, there was a big panel of Juvia compared to others, so that foreshadows how close Juvia is to him.
Proof is already in the pudding that he has thanked her several times when she does something for him.
Proof is in the pudding that Gray has done so many things for Juvia's well being and amonst other things.


Ignoring Manga's portrayal of which Mashima displayed and worked hard on is disrespectful to him.

Gray also doesn't even mind her company all that much anymore compared to before, and isn't as freaked out as much when she's fangirling

On the other hand, Natsu doesn't even show any proper development to Lucy and in fact shows disrespectful behaviour and is inconsiderate in his feelings toward Lucy. I mean atleast apologize if you hurt someone's feelings, sheesh... is Natsu that big of a superstar now to not even have the decency to do that?(Also Lucy downright implied Natsu is a hypocrite when he was berating another character, which is like pot meet kettle moment.) Let's not forget the amount of times in the avatar arc where Natsu puts down Lucy and act as if it isn't a big thing for her to upset downright disresprecting her character.
 
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I really don't have much to add lol I mean it's all in the eye of the beholder. I feel like Natsu is further along than Gray is in the maturity department of understanding a girl's heart. Not saying he wasn't in the wrong when he just dipped on Lucy (even if he left her a note, which wasn't enough) but Natsu's demeanor is that he'll always be straight up with you, he doesn't dodge or hide, something Gray does frequently with Juvia, which even if you're fan of Gray you have to admit. I'm looking at everything from in-series perspective too, so I can't mention that Hiro likes to tease us with ships, that's obvious cause everything will mostly get canon at the end of the series like in all shounens. Gray's flaws when it comes to Juvia is that he doesn't like being upfront with her, but you obviously sees that he cares and thinks about her, regardless of what his actual actions may seem like. I wouldn't call him a "tsundere" that's kinda extreme, he's just complicated like a facebook status, but thinks things out compared to a brash Natsu who doesn't, flat out
 

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In the past Gray has dodged Juvia because she's generally fangirling crazily. How do you expect for him to interract with her when she is not even a realistic state of mind?

He dodged her before:
-Lack of experience in the past timeskip.
-Comedy relief
-Teasing the fans, etc.
Currently he's showing great utmost maturity when handling Juvia.


Gray has been full aware of what lies in Juvia's heart. He always has, it just that his lack of experience in relationships makes it difficult for him to express himself in the past prior to currently. If Gray dodged or hide, then explain to me why he confronted Juvia and said he will confess to her when the time is right? He straight up face to face told her about it. This is considerable development, something he may not have done in the past. So he straight up fixed this flaw you presented.

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As for dodging, I'm not sure that you are aware of this but every woman that has been close emotionally and mentally to Gray has been hurt, killed when associated with him. Gray caring for Juvia, mentally believes she should stay away from him because he doesn't want Juvia to end up as the women that were associated with him... However a year later, he has made a significant progress on that in changing that belief in regards with his talk with Juvia prior the war starting from Ajeel's ambush. Also another reason for the dodge, is for comedic relief tsundere moments, as well as teasing the fans. Mashima loves to tease the fans (Jerza being the latest victim), that's why he doesn't want to rush the pairings and make them canon quickly, because what's the fun in that? Why not have it slowly develop and then make them canon at the end of the series.

Besides, it's not normal to talk to someone let alone confront someone when that someone is generally fangirling around you and worshipping you as a god rather than a person.

We can't ignore what has been seen currently, where Gray's maturity outclasses whatever maturity Natsu has shown and has shown outright to respect Juvia's feelings while Natsu currently downplayed Lucy's.
You feel further along that Natsu is ahead in the maturity department despite not providing actual concrete evidence to your opinion in terms of scenes/panels/comparisions.
 
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