This is a general thread for discussion regarding Jellal Fernandes. (Note: Jellal VS X discussions would be better suited to our Domus Flau sub-forum which will return once the Fairy Tail Tournament has concluded.)
This could happen. At worst they'd have minor injuries from their battles. Jellal especially is going to be important against Zeref, that's my gut feeling. Gray at the very least should fight Invel, he usually gets the ice wizard.I hope gray and jellal teams up against zeref that would be awesome..jellal/gray vs zeref or jellal/gray/mavis vs zeref/invel
Yes if they teams up with mavis(for exemple) i can see mavis and jellal vs zeref and gray vs invel(ice mage..like always..)This could happen. At worst they'd have minor injuries from their battles. Jellal especially is going to be important against Zeref, that's my gut feeling. Gray at the very least should fight Invel, he usually gets the ice wizard.
http://mangafox.me/manga/fairy_tail/v43/c369/9.htmlDoes anyone know if the "Solid Seal" in the Jellal vs Oracion Seis in the anime is in the manga? I can't find any scans but I don't think it's been mentioned since, could anyone tell me?
Thanks Vici, I'm trying to find it because I think it's implied that people can't move away from the seal, and I don't think anyone has evaded GC since that fight meaning that there may be an immobilizing effect to Grand Chariot.http://mangafox.me/manga/fairy_tail/v43/c369/9.html
This is that situation i assume well it all depends on translation you find here seal is mentioned.
The best way would be to find a raw of that scene but it may prove very difficult
You welcomeThanks Vici, I'm trying to find it because I think it's implied that people can't move away from the seal, and I don't think anyone has evaded GC since that fight meaning that there may be an immobilizing effect to Grand Chariot.
and here is a raw/scan ( whatever :P)
Again, big thanks, I owe you one.
Definately considering there is no reason they wouldn't move unless they were somehow stopped from doing so.Again, big thanks, I owe you one.
Anyway to make sure this post doesn't get deleted I'll elaborate as to my "Immobilizing Grand Chariot" theory: During the Jellal vs OS fight, Angel says (or something similar too) "No... this is a-" and then Racer finishes by saying "A Solid Seal?". Now Racer (given the speed he's shown) should have been able to dodge GC but instead he was glued to his spot. After this I don't recall anyone moving away from Grand Chariot, including Neinhart. Maybe it's a bit shaky but I think Jellal has modified his Grand Chariot so that people can't move away from it, given that that is it's biggest flaw.
Yeah, I think I'm going to put this in my post in the tournament thread, best place to test a theory is to let people who don't like it try to discredit it lol.Definately considering there is no reason they wouldn't move unless they were somehow stopped from doing so.
Wouldn't Jellal just have nuked Neinhart straight away if he didn't need to say the incantation? Plus he's said the incantation every time, so it should be mandatory tbh.I doubt Grand Chariot restricts people from running away. It should be clearly stated if it has such a property. I don't think it's easy to dodge, at least not the new ones he used against OS and Neinhart. It is a pillar of light after all. It doesn't leave much time for reaction if Jellal can release it whenever he wants. Nobody was able to dodge it. I am assuming he says that long line about judgement for style purposes. It shouldn't hinder the casting speed.
I checked both raws and anime and it says the same - three-dimensional magic square (rittai mahōjin). I didn't saw English subs, but rittai means also "solid body", that's why it was translated as "solid seal", I believeOnly thing is, I don't know what the raw says...

Thanks a lot Linali! I owe you one!I checked both raws and anime and it says the same - three-dimensional magic square (rittai mahōjin). I didn't saw English subs, but rittai means also "solid body", that's why it was translated as "solid seal", I believe![]()

That line doesn't sound like an incantation to me. I still think he does it for style. There was a long pause between that and the actual spell when he killed Neinhart. Even Sema, a stronger heavenly body magic, doesn't require such a line. Why should Grand Chariot need more requirement?Wouldn't Jellal just have nuked Neinhart straight away if he didn't need to say the incantation? Plus he's said the incantation every time, so it should be mandatory tbh.
You're welcomeThanks a lot Linali! I owe you one!
I do have to ask though, does that disprove or prove my "Solid Seal" theory?
As for your theory, I'm affraid you have to ask Mashima. But I agree, even if Jellal didn't give them much time to think, at least Racer should be able escape. This square or circle wasn't related to Grand Chariot (magic circles are much lower than Grand Chariot stars) and Cobra asked "When did he (do it)?!" so I think, that Jellal stopping OS from escaping from his spell is quite possible.
Thank you so much! I'm trying to prove this but I'm meeting resistance lol, do you mind if I steal/quote you on the magic seals being too low for GC?You're welcomeAs for your theory, I'm affraid you have to ask Mashima. But I agree, even if Jellal didn't give them much time to think, at least Racer should be able escape. This square or circle wasn't related to Grand Chariot (magic circles are much lower than Grand Chariot stars) and Cobra asked "When did he (do it)?!" so I think, that Jellal stopping OS from escaping from his spell is quite possible.
--- Double Post Merged, , Original Post Date: ---
No idea tbh, I've just always assumed that since he said it every time before casting it that it's mandatory.That line doesn't sound like an incantation to me. I still think he does it for style. There was a long pause between that and the actual spell when he killed Neinhart. Even Sema, a stronger heavenly body magic, doesn't require such a line. Why should Grand Chariot need more requirement?
Is it just me or the Grand Chariot casting gesture and that line looks similar to Zeref's spell?
I don't mindThank you so much! I'm trying to prove this but I'm meeting resistance lol, do you mind if I steal/quote you on the magic seals being too low for GC?
Btw, Jellal used GC three times in the manga, but only OS saw those misterious pillars. Natsu was beaten at the time and Neinheart was eem... Neinheart. Anyway, everytime Jellal uses this spell it looks cooler than before 