Stings attack made a hole in the GMG floor. Minerva's attack didn't break through the floor and tunnel down meaning her attack was weak. Erzas and Kaguras sword aren't regular swords, those swords slice to concrete and spells.
You're just gonna ignore my evidences, aren't you?
I don't think extreme rage can do that amount of improvement. Unless Gray was below casual before Juvia "died"... lol.
Doesn't matter, August was stabbed due to poor reacts and durability.
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Lol August can survive when his upper half of his body is destroyed?
If he can shrug off a stab like nothing happened and proceed to do a great deal of damage to the land, then he can survive and proceed to wreck whomever.
Are you...
Well Brandish can probably do that to any character when they're not expecting it... only people who might not get cut are Zeref and Acnologia.
OH yes! That's makes perfect sense. Natsu can tank huge explosions but a knife can cut him.
Explosions aren't the be-all end-all of FT. It depends. Igneel's roar generated a nuke bigger than a mountain. This tickled Acnologia. At the end of their fight, Igneel bite took an arm off Acnologia.
By that logic your precious Gildarts has fodder durability since he got ripped in two by Acnologia's bare claws.
So all of Natsu, Laxus, Grays attacks mean nothing because explosions are weak. Wrong.
His punches aren't a sign of him getting serious. It's more like the anger and darkness building up inside him.
We pretty much agree on this except for different characters. You keep saying how Gray's fight was inconsistent but I'm trying to tell you that Natsu's power level and feats to support it are even more inconsistent.
Again, if Natsu is truly as strong as he was against Neinhart, Jacob wouldn't have the chance to escape. One casual attack in Base Mode would end him easily. At least it should if Natsu's power level is consistent.
Besides getting hit a few times, Jacob doesn't seem to be that good in defense. Lucy and Leo's attacks were weak. There was probably only one notable punch from Natsu that he tanked but again... that is only one attack. I can't say Jacob has better durability because he just tanked one attack. What I do know is that he was one-shotted.
If motivation is the same in both situations, then the damage output is dependent on attack power. From what it seems, Natsu had to use a lot more attack power to defeat Jacob than he did with Neinhart. Something here isn't consistent especially since the outcome is the same.
I don't see why E.N.D's flames wouldn't work the same way as any other power-up. It is still a power-up. I think it is more of an assumption to say that Natsu was going easy on Gray. It doesn't matter though, we'll see soon enough what Natsu can really do when he goes all out. At least that's what he said at the end of last chapter.
The flames disappeared not too long after Natsu's arm demonized.
I don't remember that but even if it did happen, I wouldn't use Natsu as a standard of excelling in CQC. He is at best average at CQC. So someone who can match him probably isn't that good either.
Sure, correlation doesn't equal causation. But it is the best information we've got up to date. I would rather base my claims off of correlation than deny it just because it doesn't support my argument. It should be pretty clear that mages with higher MP usually have better stats. August and Eileen are by far the most powerful Spriggans in stats compared to the others. Similarly, the Spriggans have by far the highest stats in comparison to other high-tier characters. And those high-tier characters have better stats than the fodders which is why they are stronger.
I thought we were talking about the part where Invel mentions that Gray's darkness was consuming him? At that point, Juvia was frozen so Invel didn't intend to create any emotional situation.
Invel created a situation (Ice Lock) where Gray would kill Juvia, leaving him guilty enough that his heart would be totally consumed by darkness. No matter how you look at it... negative emotions created darkness. DeS magic drives one insane and does speed up the process here (due to Gray learning DeS too quickly) but this doesn't change the fact that in order for Gray's darkness to awaken in full, there needed to be an emotional trigger at the level of Juvia committing suicide for Gray. I could argue that DeS magic influences emotions... well you only need to look at the recent chapter for that. For now I can't separate darkness from negative emotions, they seem hand-in-hand like positive feeling and PoF.
Well, in that case, I would just call it a power-up. But I still refuse to believe that darkness is a form of PoF or everything in the series would be counted as PoF.
That isn't what I said... I just said that nukes aren't everything. I said it depends. They can be strong. Nukes often have bulk AoE, but lack in potency. Only the truly strong nukes have potency. I could list several examples of this.
Your initial qualm was that I labeled darkness an emotional power. I didn't really think we were isolated to any one panel.
It's a power up I don't disagree. I'm not really fussed about how it's classified as that's a preference. If you don't like PoF being grouped with darkness because you don't like PoF as a power in FT, then it's fine to make another category for darkness. I just put them both under the umbrella of emotional power. If someone calls darkness = PoF with negative emotions, I'm fine with that too.
Stop using such a dumbass logic to make August look bad. He got stabbed, but he proceeded to wreck shit. Show me one instance where he showed any signs of damage from the stab, when Kagura during the tournament was finished by Minerva's stab. Is there proof that the fist would obliterate August's body, or that it'd stop him when a stab didn't stop him from making everyone his bitch?
Um, can you tell me what this discussion is about so I could join it too? I also kind of skipped through the whole thing
If a little knife can go through him life tofu, demolition fist would destroy him.
