Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Na, I do not believe she can shrink the organs of someone unless she has had worked on the person prior, same goes for body parts (though she could shrink the entire body of someone at her level or below). When she healed the tumour she needed to know the exact location of the tumour, meaning that its not as simple as shrinking whatever part she wants to shrink, she needs to know its exact location (and every has a different body structure, even if only slightly, so she wouldn't know the exact location).

She could have subdued DiMaria before the latter used Age Seal (since DiMaria was on a rant and Brandish knew what she was going to do) if that was nt the case. And DiMaria did say that she could have crushed Lucy, instead of just jointing Lucys name into the same sentence as Natsus when she said blow up his organs (and add a their instead of his). Point is, I'm not going to believe that Brandish could do such a complicated thing until she does it.

Nope!
She says ''The same to this girl. She could just shrink her and smash her in the ground."
It's not like she was saying that she can't manipute Lucy organism.


Do you remember when Brandish try save Natsus life? She ask to Porlysukia inform exactly the tumor position. It was because she could kill him mixin with some vital organ unintentionally.

Brandish didn't make Dimaria die for inside just because she didn't want it. She was her ally after all and Brandish had resolved to join the Empire side once and for all.

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yes Brandish is probabably stronger than some spriggans but she doesent have feats against spriggans level opponents..

and no Brandish is not defeating God Serena because obvious reasons...

1.Enhanted Neinhart was able to overpower Brandish while Natsu one-shotted Neinhart
2.Historia Serena was wrecking team-Natsu.. while Natsu one-shotted Neinhart
3. Enchanted Neinhart----->Brandish
4. Historia Serena-----> enchanted Neinhart
5. Historia Serena overpowered Team Natsu
6. so how Brandish is defeating God Serena who was able to take GOI+Jura attacks with no effort while Brandish was damaged by Lucy attacks??
7. Goi+Jura-----> Lucy

2. Enchanted Neinhart was defeated easily by Natsu and after that, Brandish made Natsu to faint.
Natsu > Enchanted Neinhart
Brandish > Natsu
So why she is weaker than Neinhart? She only couldn't use her magic in his body. It doesn't mean that she was unable to defeet him in a fight by make herself giant, etc.

She only had a proper fight against Lucy. But she put Natsu to sleep with a single move.
She can made a little knife be enlarge to stab someone in surprise.
She can made God Serena very very very small.
She can change his water attack and fire attack and attack it back to him like she made with Lucy ''AQUAMETRIA''.

Brandish, of course, got a lot of ways to win God Serena.

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This is the way to deal with God Serena's magic that was ''wrecking'' team Natsu.

 

[The President]

Nope!
She says ''The same to this girl. She could just shrink her and smash her in the ground."
It's not like she was saying that she can't manipute Lucy organism.

Yeah, and if she could have done the same thing to Lucy she would have just jointed the two sentences, it would have been a needless distinction. If you can cut two peoples heads off why would you say cut one of their heads off and slit the others neck instead of just saying cutting both of their heads off, thats a needless distinction.

Do you remember when Brandish try save Natsus life? She ask to Porlysukia inform exactly the tumor position. It was because she could kill him mixin with some vital organ unintentionally.

It shows that its not as simple as thinking of an organ and making it smaller. She has to know the EXACT place of the organ she wants to shrink.

Brandish didn't make Dimaria die for inside just because she didn't want it. She was her ally after all and Brandish had resolved to join the Empire side once and for all.

She didn't have to kill DiMaria, she could have just shrinked some of her organs to subdue her in pain and then get them back to their original size afterwards.

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Yeah, and if she could have done the same thing to Lucy she would have just jointed the two sentences, it would have been a needless distinction. If you can cut two peoples heads off why would you say cut one of their heads off and slit the others neck instead of just saying cutting both of their heads off, thats a needless distinction.



It shows that its not as simple as thinking of an organ and making it smaller. She has to know the EXACT place of the organ she wants to shrink.



She didn't have to kill DiMaria, she could have just shrinked some of her organs to subdue her in pain and then get them back to their original size afterwards.

The point is that we don't now if she can manipulate organs at distance without kill her targett.
Brandish says that she magic can manipulate everything that posses mass. She can manipule the organism.

Shenot even has touched Natsu's body to make him faint.

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Brandish can do ''simple'' things like enlarge the head of her target until it be extremaly disproporcionate and made the body be shrinked.

The target would be like unable to move.

She could deal with Dimaria like that. LMAO

 

[Boomburst]

Yeah, and if she could have done the same thing to Lucy she would have just jointed the two sentences, it would have been a needless distinction. If you can cut two peoples heads off why would you say cut one of their heads off and slit the others neck instead of just saying cutting both of their heads off, thats a needless distinction.

Well I wouldn't call it needless. Dimaria saying that Brandish could do two different things against Lucy and Natsu is just to show that Brandish had a wide variety of ways to kill them, which supported Dimaria's guess that Brandish wasn't trying to kill them. It's just to emphasize the ease that Brandish could beat the two of them with.

It shows that its not as simple as thinking of an organ and making it smaller. She has to know the EXACT place of the organ she wants to shrink.

Well I'd assume that Brandish knows the basic positions of the vital organs, and even if she didn't she wouldn't even need to. Just shrink any random organ and chances are it's gonna kill or severely injure the person. The reason Brandish asked about the tumor is because it could have been ANYWHERE. She had no idea at all where it was.

She didn't have to kill DiMaria, she could have just shrinked some of her organs to subdue her in pain and then get them back to their original size afterwards.

Yea but keep in mind that Brandish is still loyal to Alvarez at this point. Subduing Dimaria would definitely be an act of treason and she would have lost all chances of staying on Alvarez's side. Besides, it's not as if she expected Dimaria to attack her.

 

[Geralt of Rivia]

Rank these characters in terms of magic power:

Irene
Dimaria
Gildarts
Laxus
Jellal
Erza
Makarov
Mirajane
Gray
Ultear
Hades
Kagura

Irene
Dimaria
Gildarts/Laxus
Jellal/BL Gray?
Hades
Makarov
Erza
Mirajane
Ultear
Kagura

 

[The President]

The point is that we don't now if she can manipulate organs at distance without kill her targett.
Brandish says that she magic can manipulate everything that posses mass. She can manipule the organism.

I know she can, she did with Natsu. But what im saying is that a lot more steps are needed then simply pop someones brain and be done with them.

Well I wouldn't call it needless. Dimaria saying that Brandish could do two different things against Lucy and Natsu is just to show that Brandish had a wide variety of ways to kill them, which supported Dimaria's guess that Brandish wasn't trying to kill them. It's just to emphasize the ease that Brandish could beat the two of them with.

Na thats dumb. If she wanted to emphasize the ease in which she could handle them, I'd say just saying she could pop both of their organs and be done with it sounds a lot more convenient (easy). It really sounds like DiMaria is making the distinction because the same thing wouldn't work on Lucy (combat ready and someone she hadn't worked internally on).

Well I'd assume that Brandish knows the basic positions of the vital organs, and even if she didn't she wouldn't even need to. Just shrink any random organ and chances are it's gonna kill or severely injure the person. The reason Brandish asked about the tumor is because it could have been ANYWHERE. She had no idea at all where it was.

Everyones disposition is different. I'm saying that she needs to know the EXACT location, ie the equivalent of a map layout of the internal structure of her opponent or whoever. She might know roughly where the heart is, but that shouldn't be enough. If she can't do shrink the tumor based on thought I don't see why she would be able to shrink anything else based on thought.

Yea but keep in mind that Brandish is still loyal to Alvarez at this point. Subduing Dimaria would definitely be an act of treason and she would have lost all chances of staying on Alvarez's side. Besides, it's not as if she expected Dimaria to attack her.

She already made multiple acts of treason, she even tried to stop Neinhart so subduing (not even killing) should have still been something on her mind. What did she expect DiMaria to do? Call her out and walk away? At the best case scenario DiMaria would have ignored her and went straight for Lucy, we know Brandish would have had none of that.

I really don't think its as simple as you guys are making it out to be, she had multiple times where she could have done what you claim she could have done.

 

[Takuan]

Everyones disposition is different. I'm saying that she needs to know the EXACT location, ie the equivalent of a map layout of the internal structure of her opponent or whoever. She might know roughly where the heart is, but that shouldn't be enough. If she can't do shrink the tumor based on thought I don't see why she would be able to shrink anything else based on thought.

I didn't read everything above so i might repeat what someone else said... I apologize if that's the case.
But here's what i think about Brandish's magic:
She can indeed shrink or enlarge anything, without needing to pinpoint the exact location. However in case of a very precise operation she has to know the exact location.
What i mean is, when she had to shrink Natsu's tumor she had to ask where it was precisely, otherwise she might have shrunk something else. So in order not to bring harm, she has to be extremely precise and know the internal structure.
But if she wants to shrink a heart, or whatever organ, in order to defeat/kill an opponent, there's no need to be precise, since shrinking the entire region is sure to shrink the organ she wants to shrink.
Do i make any sense?
Imo she has to be precise to avoid harm. If she wants to harm though, she just does whatever.

It's kind of like a surgery operation, if you want to reconstruct/fix something you have to act meticulously. If you want to destruct something it's far easier of course since there's no need to worry about circumstances.

At least that's what i think. So i'd say, she most likely can shrink organs even without having to know the exact internal strucutre of the person.
I might be wrong of course, just adding my two cents

 

[Boomburst]

Na thats dumb. If she wanted to emphasize the ease in which she could handle them, I'd say just saying she could pop both of their organs and be done with it sounds a lot more convenient (easy). It really sounds like DiMaria is making the distinction because the same thing wouldn't work on Lucy (combat ready and someone she hadn't worked internally on).

But I can just as easily turn this around and ask, why didn't Dimaria just say Brandish could shrink both their bodies instead of shrinking both their organs? Does this mean that Natsu's body is unable to be shrunk?

Everyones disposition is different. I'm saying that she needs to know the EXACT location, ie the equivalent of a map layout of the internal structure of her opponent or whoever. She might know roughly where the heart is, but that shouldn't be enough. If she can't do shrink the tumor based on thought I don't see why she would be able to shrink anything else based on thought.

She couldn't shrink the tumor based on thought because she didn't know where the tumor was AT ALL. It could have been in his right pinkie toe for all she knew.

Ok time for a dumb analogy lol but hear me out. Think of an organ as a big button, as large as the organ is. And think of Brandish's magic as a finger. The finger can hit the button anywhere and the result will be the same. It doesn't have to find its exact location, it doesn't need to know its coordinates, it doesn't need to know its dimensions. Therefore, the position of the button can fluctuate and it doesn't matter because as long as it stays in the same general area, the finger can stay in the same position and it can still hit the button without caring about where it moved.

Now of course, the fluctuation of the button has to be very slight for this to work but the difference in position of major organs between different people is in fact slight.

She already made multiple acts of treason, she even tried to stop Neinhart so subduing (not even killing) should have still been something on her mind. What did she expect DiMaria to do? Call her out and walk away? At the best case scenario DiMaria would have ignored her and went straight for Lucy, we know Brandish would have had none of that.

I really don't think its as simple as you guys are making it out to be, she had multiple times where she could have done what you claim she could have done.

What did you expect Brandish to do? Attack her comrade and lose all chances of staying on Alvarez's side? Maybe she thought she could convince Dimaria that she wasn't putting on a facade, or maybe she thought she could convince her that Lucy and Natsu shouldn't be harmed while still maintaining that she was loyal. Anything would have been better than attacking Dimaria and cementing her suspicions.

And besides, if Brandish really wanted to subdue Dimaria, why would she have to do anything to her organs? Just shrink her to the size of an ant.

 

[EdwardRictofin]

But I can just as easily turn this around and ask, why didn't Dimaria just say Brandish could shrink both their bodies instead of shrinking both their organs? Does this mean that Natsu's body is unable to be shrunk?

She couldn't shrink the tumor based on thought because she didn't know where the tumor was AT ALL. It could have been in his right pinkie toe for all she knew.

Ok time for a dumb analogy lol but hear me out. Think of an organ as a big button, as large as the organ is. And think of Brandish's magic as a finger. The finger can hit the button anywhere and the result will be the same. It doesn't have to find its exact location, it doesn't need to know its coordinates, it doesn't need to know its dimensions. Therefore, the position of the button can fluctuate and it doesn't matter because as long as it stays in the same general area, the finger can stay in the same position and it can still hit the button without caring about where it moved.

Now of course, the fluctuation of the button has to be very slight for this to work but the difference in position of major organs between different people is in fact slight.



What did you expect Brandish to do? Attack her comrade and lose all chances of staying on Alvarez's side? Maybe she thought she could convince Dimaria that she wasn't putting on a facade, or maybe she thought she could convince her that Lucy and Natsu shouldn't be harmed while still maintaining that she was loyal. Anything would have been better than attacking Dimaria and cementing her suspicions.

And besides, if Brandish really wanted to subdue Dimaria, why would she have to do anything to her organs? Just shrink her to the size of an ant.

I think you are looking too far into it. Brandish enlarged Natsus tumor without finding it the second time.​

 

[Star Frost]

I think you are looking too far into it. Brandish enlarged Natsus tumor without finding it the second time.​

That's because she knows where it's at now considering she found out it's exact location. First time she didn't

 

[King Gilgamesh]

Irene
Dimaria
Gildarts
Jellal
Laxus
Hades with heart
Hades without heart
Gray
Mirajane
Erza
Makarov
Ultear
Kagura

1.) Irene
2.) Gildarts
3.) Laxus/Jellal (full power)
4.) Hades (with heart)
5.) Gray (not too sure about him currently)
6.) Dimaria
7.) Hades (without heart)
8.) Makarov
9.) Erza
10.) Mirajane
11.) Ultear
12.) Kagura

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Nope!
She says ''The same to this girl. She could just shrink her and smash her in the ground."
It's not like she was saying that she can't manipute Lucy organism.


Do you remember when Brandish try save Natsus life? She ask to Porlysukia inform exactly the tumor position. It was because she could kill him mixin with some vital organ unintentionally.

Brandish didn't make Dimaria die for inside just because she didn't want it. She was her ally after all and Brandish had resolved to join the Empire side once and for all.

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2. Enchanted Neinhart was defeated easily by Natsu and after that, Brandish made Natsu to faint.
Natsu > Enchanted Neinhart
Brandish > Natsu
So why she is weaker than Neinhart? She only couldn't use her magic in his body. It doesn't mean that she was unable to defeet him in a fight by make herself giant, etc.

She only had a proper fight against Lucy. But she put Natsu to sleep with a single move.
She can made a little knife be enlarge to stab someone in surprise.
She can made God Serena very very very small.
She can change his water attack and fire attack and attack it back to him like she made with Lucy ''AQUAMETRIA''.

Brandish, of course, got a lot of ways to win God Serena.

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This is the way to deal with God Serena's magic that was ''wrecking'' team Natsu.

Well it's been proven that if you have higher magical power you can negate another users haxed powers.

 

[EdwardRictofin]

That's because she knows where it's at now considering she found out it's exact location. First time she didn't

Considering she made it really small and found it. She can probably increase the atoms in your body.

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1.) Irene
2.) Gildarts
3.) Laxus/Jellal (full power)
4.) Hades (with heart)
5.) Gray (not too sure about him currently)
6.) Dimaria
7.) Hades (without heart)
8.) Makarov
9.) Erza
10.) Mirajane
11.) Ultear
12.) Kagura

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Well it's been proven that if you have higher magical power you can negate another users haxed powers.

Hades is nothing to the people after the timeskip. He's stronger than Natsu who on equal terms with Gray? Dimaira who can stop time and space? Erza and Mirajane?

 

[King Gilgamesh]

Considering she made it really small and found it. She can probably increase the atoms in your body.

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Hades is nothing to the people after the timeskip. He's stronger than Natsu who on equal terms with Gray? Dimaira who can stop time and space? Erza and Mirajane?

Well for one current Natsu is kind of featless so I only judged Gray after his fight with Invel, in which case he belongs where he is. Hades has better feats, he thrashed Makarov, stomped team Natsu easily, beat x784 Laxus in base, and would've wrecked them all over again with his Demon heart, plus he has more versatile abilities. Hades in base is God of Ishgar level, which Erza and Mira aren't at yet. Wendy was reacting to Dimaria's attacks and even Carla reacted to her beam, Hades has better overall speed feats so timestop isn't going to be an issue to him, in terms of stats he's above Dimaria. Hades deserves that spot in my opinion.

 

[EdwardRictofin]

Well for one current Natsu is kind of featless so I only judged Gray after his fight with Invel, in which case he belongs where he is. Hades has better feats, he thrashed Makarov, stomped team Natsu easily, beat x784 Laxus in base, and would've wrecked them all over again with his Demon heart, plus he has more versatile abilities. Hades in base is God of Ishgar level, which Erza and Mira aren't at yet. Wendy was reacting to Dimaria's attacks and even Carla reacted to her beam, Hades has better overall speed feats so timestop isn't going to be an issue to him, in terms of stats he's above Dimaria. Hades deserves that spot in my opinion.

Um, Hade needs the ship so Erza can slice it in half and he gets destroyed by Erza.

 

[Pirate Queen]

Well for one current Natsu is kind of featless so I only judged Gray after his fight with Invel, in which case he belongs where he is. Hades has better feats, he thrashed Makarov, stomped team Natsu easily, beat x784 Laxus in base, and would've wrecked them all over again with his Demon heart, plus he has more versatile abilities. Hades in base is God of Ishgar level, which Erza and Mira aren't at yet. Wendy was reacting to Dimaria's attacks and even Carla reacted to her beam, Hades has better overall speed feats so timestop isn't going to be an issue to him, in terms of stats he's above Dimaria. Hades deserves that spot in my opinion.

Current
Natsu
Is
Kind
Of
Featless
*one shot bluenote*
*one shot wargod*
*one shot jacob while burning an entire lake*
*defeated 100,000 averez troops pre-igneel power*
*tanked part of August's nuke*
*one shot enhanced Neinhart*
*one shot dimaria*
*end power up*

 

[Star Frost]

Well it's been proven that if you have higher magical power you can negate another users haxed powers.

No not negate, you're just unaffected.

Considering she made it really small and found it. She can probably increase the atoms in your body.

I suppose so

 

[The President]

But I can just as easily turn this around and ask, why didn't Dimaria just say Brandish could shrink both their bodies instead of shrinking both their organs? Does this mean that Natsu's body is unable to be shrunk?

She saw what Brandish did to Natsu so she formulated her theory based on that example.

She couldn't shrink the tumor based on thought because she didn't know where the tumor was AT ALL. It could have been in his right pinkie toe for all she knew.

Ok time for a dumb analogy lol but hear me out. Think of an organ as a big button, as large as the organ is. And think of Brandish's magic as a finger. The finger can hit the button anywhere and the result will be the same. It doesn't have to find its exact location, it doesn't need to know its coordinates, it doesn't need to know its dimensions. Therefore, the position of the button can fluctuate and it doesn't matter because as long as it stays in the same general area, the finger can stay in the same position and it can still hit the button without caring about where it moved.

Now of course, the fluctuation of the button has to be very slight for this to work but the difference in position of major organs between different people is in fact slight.

So you are assuming that she doesn't need to know EXACTLY where it is but needs to have the rough idea? I don't buy it. Estimations feel a little too "contrived" for an argument if you catch my drift.

What did you expect Brandish to do? Attack her comrade and lose all chances of staying on Alvarez's side? Maybe she thought she could convince Dimaria that she wasn't putting on a facade, or maybe she thought she could convince her that Lucy and Natsu shouldn't be harmed while still maintaining that she was loyal. Anything would have been better than attacking Dimaria and cementing her suspicions.

Subdue her, I mean like I said, she already tried to attack Neinhart. Instead of screaming stop she could have actually physically done something about it in a fraction of the time it would have taken her to complete the scream.

And besides, if Brandish really wanted to subdue Dimaria, why would she have to do anything to her organs? Just shrink her to the size of an ant.

That doesn't work out well. DiMaria would still use age seal and slit their throats, kinda like what Lucy did.

Well for one current Natsu is kind of featless so I only judged Gray after his fight with Invel, in which case he belongs where he is. Hades has better feats, he thrashed Makarov, stomped team Natsu easily, beat x784 Laxus in base, and would've wrecked them all over again with his Demon heart, plus he has more versatile abilities. Hades in base is God of Ishgar level, which Erza and Mira aren't at yet. Wendy was reacting to Dimaria's attacks and even Carla reacted to her beam, Hades has better overall speed feats so timestop isn't going to be an issue to him, in terms of stats he's above Dimaria. Hades deserves that spot in my opinion.

By current Natsu do you mean END? Because Natsu as a whole is most certainly far from featless. Defeating Tenrou Team Natsu easily is not that hard to accomplish, especially when they were all injured with varying degrees. Makarov did not think Tartarus arc Team Natsu + himself would stand a chance against Ajeel either, thats far far more telling. Current Erza is above GoI level at this point in time, Mira is at that level (I don't know about being above it). DF Wendy is faster then Hades, Carla was only able to react because of her precog/future sight. Ultear couldn't react to DiMarias beam, Hades is nothing special in speed (blitzed by Tenrou Laxus), I wouldn't put his reaction speed that far above Ultears. Although I don't see what timestop has to do with the beam, unless you downright blitz her before she clicks her teeth she is going to use age seal and Hades doesn't have the MP to negate it like END did. DiMaria has better speed and durability then Hades, I'd put Hades above her in physical strength but thats about it.

 

[Boomburst]

She saw what Brandish did to Natsu so she formulated her theory based on that example.

But she also saw what Brandish did to Lucy as well, so why didn't she formulate her theory based on THAT example?

So you are assuming that she doesn't need to know EXACTLY where it is but needs to have the rough idea? I don't buy it. Estimations feel a little too "contrived" for an argument if you catch my drift.

Well the term "exact location" is pretty ambiguous. How do you define something's "exact position"? There isn't exactly a coordinate plane for Brandish to look at. How precise does Brandish's understanding of the object's position need to be for you to accept it as "exact"?

Subdue her, I mean like I said, she already tried to attack Neinhart. Instead of screaming stop she could have actually physically done something about it in a fraction of the time it would have taken her to complete the scream.

Well of course she tried to attack Neinhart. Neinhart attacked her first, she was just trying to defend herself. The situations aren't equivalent; Dimaria didn't do anything yet that would warrant Brandish attacking her without being treasonous. At least with Neinhart Brandish had an arguable excuse as to why she tried attack him.

That doesn't work out well. DiMaria would still use age seal and slit their throats, kinda like what Lucy did.

Can Dimaria still use Age Seal when she's the size of an ant? Marin was shrunk by Brandish and as a result he couldn't teleport out of the little container she had him trapped in. I'd assume this means that a user's magic is stunted if the body's size is changed. It kind of makes sense considering that when the body shrinks, the MP container shrinks as well.

 

[Cosmicstar]

Can Dimaria still use Age Seal when she's the size of an ant? Marin was shrunk by Brandish and as a result he couldn't teleport out of the little container she had him trapped in. I'd assume this means that a user's magic is stunted if the body's size is changed. It kind of makes sense considering that when the body shrinks, the MP container shrinks as well.

Marin not being able to teleport was PIS or CIS because his magic while shrunk still affected all of Magnolia which is why Lucy couldn't use her magic and Erza could requip. That is why Lucy took the container and stepped on it.

 

[EdwardRictofin]

Marin not being able to teleport was PIS or CIS because his magic while shrunk still affected all of Magnolia which is why Lucy couldn't use her magic and Erza could requip. That is why Lucy took the container and stepped on it.

Hi, what does Pis and Cis stand for?

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Spriggan 12 ranking

top tier High tier
1.Irene
2.August
3.God Serena/Larcade (Larcade has high hype level)
Medium Tier
4.God Serena/Larcade(God Serena has some monster feats overpowering Team-Natsu and defeated Goi+Jura with no injuries)
5. Dimaria (with time-stop)
6. Invel
7. Wahl
Low tier
8. Bradman
9. Ajeel
10. Neinhart (enchanted Neinhart is medium tier)
11. Jacob
12, Brandish (she dont have any feats against Spriggan tier characters)

Tell me how any person above Dimaira can stop her when they're frozen in time?

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Natsu has one shotted multiple Spriggans, why is it so hard to accept that he is above Spriggan level.

I don't think so because Jacob was not fighting to his full extent and Natsu had plot convenience. Jacob was able to kill Brandish and Natsu with a single clap of his hands.

Neinhart was shown be to nothing but a coward. As seen in the last chapter Irene enchanted a lot of soldiers to the point that they made Erza have trouble. You can throw out the fact that they been fighting for a while and their magic reserves must be lowered. So it's very easily to believe that Irene can make him into so strong that magic doesn't affect him.

You can't really count Natsu for defeating Dimaria. If you remember, she said it was only E.N.D who was able to walk in her time magic. Now you wouldn't think anyone was able to do that which is probably why she got hit. She was shocked that someone could walk in her "world".

So no, I don't not think Natsu is on the level of the Spriggans. Which wouldn't much sense because the story is coming to an end and Natsu shouldn't be struggling against these guys when he should be taking on the bigger dogs like Acnologia, Zeref.