Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Static]

Welp, since we're just discussing who is the stronger above certain Spriggans, I'll just post my Spriggan ranking here :

1) August / Irene (leaning towards August being slightly stronger)
2) Larcade Dragneel (by hype)
3) Dimaria Chronos Yesta
4) God Serena (by hype and portrayal he is here, by portrayal he should be lower)
5) Invel Yura
6) Bloodman
7) Wall Eehto
8) Brandish (she has an amazing magic but lacks in overall stats)
9) Jacob Lessio
10) Ajeel Ramal
11) Fodderhart

 

[Demon Hunter]

with broken and half broken abilities:
1) August / Irene
2) Larcade Dragneel (he is Dragneel so.....)
3) DiMaria (Age Seal)
4) Jacob (Transport)
5) Brandish (shrinking people's organs)
6) Bloodman (possible Macro)
7) Invel (Ice Lock)
8) God Serena
9) Wall Eehto
10) Ajeel
11) Neintrash



without broken abilities:
1) August / Irene
2) Larcade Dragneel
3) God Serena
4) Wall Eehto
5) Bloodman
6) Invel Yura/Ajeel
7) DiMaria
8) Brandish
9) Jacob Trashob
10) Neintrash

 

[Asorx]

1) August / Irene
2) Larcade Dragneel(he is Dragneel so.....)
3) DiMaria (Age Seal)
4) Jacob (Transport
5) Brandish (shrinking people's organs)
6) Bloodman (possible Macro)
7) Invel (Ice Lock)
8) God Serena
9) Wall Eehto
10) Ajeel
11) Neintrash

This is prefect XD for me

1) August / Irene
2) Larcade Dragneel
3) God Serena
4) Wall Eehto
5) Bloodman
6) Invel Yura/Ajeel
7) DiMaria
8) Brandish
9) Jacob Trashob
10) Neintrash

I think Brandish without shrink organs is too dangerous opponent. I think she is stronger than Ajeel but we dont have feats so i agree too XD

 

[The President]

Wait, what? Where exactly is this from? And you basically pretty much agreed with me there on Erza being on the same level as the GOI by saying they would fare the same against the same opponent, which was pretty much my original point..
Also I hardly doubt that Ajeel can defeat all the GOI together like Serena did...good point on Neinhart though

Your original point was that Serena was vastly stronger then Ajeel. I dont see how my stance alines with yours when I say Ajeel can do to the GoI what Serena did. When you say Erza is on the same level as the GoI to you mean collectively or individually? If its individually then no, I maintain that she is above them.

Dude, you're missing the point here, Serena beat the GOI twice, and he pretty much implied that they weren't serious the first time so the second time he just needed to exert more effort to defeat them. Mind you, he went completely overboard as implied by August.

That doesnt mean much to me. The GoI are simply far from Spriggan level, and since their durability aint the greatest (by current standards at least) you could even say that Serena had a skillset advantage (elemental spam).

About your BlueNote point, where on earth do you get he has the same durability as the GOI? That's a completely baseless statement.

No its not. Bluenote has comparable durability to Jura who went down at the exact same time as the rest of the GoI. Even if their abilities are superior to Juras, their durability/endurance are at the very least comparable.

Like? I'm curious what feats are these that put the other Spriggan 12 above someone who actually took down his opponents, and quite a formidable group at that.

Taking down a group with zero feats isn't that impressive, especially considering that the one measuring stick we have there (Jura) is not impressive at all and they went down at the exact same time as him.

Dude, I've always maintained that if God Serena's last attack had landed, the one that Gildarts broke, Team Natsu would be in a state equal to the GOI at the end of Serena's battle with them..

Thats a huge and baseless assumption.

The impressive thing in that battle is that Serena was pretty much not at full power yet he pushed back a group of full health mages, even a mage who has an element similar to one of his own (Juvia)

It really doesnt mean shit. The roar that one-shotted Bluenote would have effortlessly overpowered that attack (since it wasn't even capable of hurting Juvia, who has inferior durability to Bluenote).

No, it really isn't..at best it's just a sealing technique, it doesn't land any damage at all, it's like the sand equivalent of Iced Shell

lol what do you mean it really isn't, its literally quicksand. He outright says that he has drowned numerous villages. It buries you underground, this is literally not debatable.

 

[Brandish μ]

3) @Brandish , U may be right ...Hyberion might have been weaker than ERZA but a tag team of 3 is certainly strong..And as i said above , GS did not use all his elements neitther DF alike force...And AJEEL was forced to use his best techniques...So , in that manner of comparison too , we can say GS is much stronger..At least stronger than AJEEL , NEINHART and others strong enough to make him among top tiers at least among top
list if not 3.....At least stronger than AJEEL..........As the discussion is his comparison

I agree Serena is stronger than Ajeel. But I don't think it is by much.

Erza with Jupiter beat Ajeel - and he used Sandworld. The GoI+Jura were beaten by God Serena, and the most they were able to damage him was when Hyberion caused Serena some pain. This is essentially fact.

So it's up to you whether you think God Serena is better than Ajeel, and by how much. This will determine where Hyberion is relative to Erza. Because lets face it, God Serena made Hyberion and company look like fodder. Meanwhile Erza with less help beat Ajeel. For mine, the most simple assumption is to say Erza > Hyberion.

 

[lakhan220]

I agree Serena is stronger than Ajeel. But I don't think it is by much.

Erza with Jupiter beat Ajeel - and he used Sandworld. The GoI+Jura were beaten by God Serena, and the most they were able to damage him was when Hyberion caused Serena some pain. This is essentially fact.

So it's up to you whether you think God Serena is better than Ajeel, and by how much. This will determine where Hyberion is relative to Erza. Because lets face it, God Serena made Hyberion and company look like fodder. Meanwhile Erza with less help beat Ajeel. For mine, the most simple assumption is to say Erza > Hyberion.

I agree with u there ...ERZA is stronger than HYBERION as I said.......
But I only doubt that all 3 combined are weaker than ERZA.....

As for JUPITER cannon as we saw.....Even MAKAROV survived that with minimal damage in TENROU arc...So , JUPITER is strong but now it does not have that much hype as before ..at least against S-12 , it means minimal..is what I think...So , this does prove ERZA is strong.....

As for AJEEL and GS , I think GS is at least significantly stronger than AJEEL. GS did not go full out against GOI as well....

Subjectively speaking , GS made them look like a fodder can also mean he is strong...But my only point in that above post was to just say that GS > AJEEL which u agree.So , I see no further point of our debate now ....

As for ERZA , it is much hard to determine exact position in her comparison with HYBERION as we are comparing indirectly.....Very soon , we will have ERZA fighting IRENE which may give us solid grounds for comparison...

But I do think GS has elemental and physical advantage over AJEEL....

 

[M3J]

First off, props to you for basing the actual distance between Natsu and Laxus with their fight prior 7year skip. It's absolutely the logical thing to do cuz Natsu didn't get any major powerups and became extremely strong lol. If u see Natsus actual strenght and say that maybe in tbe Laxus arc Natsu was like 30-40% of Laxus then apply it to now, that IS impossible. You're literally claiming Laxus is twice as strong or more than Natsu, wich is bs.

I also think Laxus or Gildarts should be the GM.
It isn't bout power lol.. To the main members makarov is fodder atm so don't talk bout power (@M3J not saying this to you btw)

What evidence do we have that Natsu is close to Laxus's strength? So far, he's not until he becomes END, and even then it's not a surefire thing. Laxus took on a guild on his own and beat Jura.

I don't remember the story exactly, but few members here even say Laxus beat a Spriggan who was a bad matchup for him.

 

[EdwardRictofin]

I agree Serena isn't necessarily the third strongest Spriggan, but saying him and Ajeel are around the same level is pushing it by a long shot..
He didn't 4 shot heavily injured GOI, he took them out in a 1 vs 4 and when they tried retaliating once again he simply replicated the same feats but with a more superior magic..
He's one of the Spriggan 12 members with the best feats in this arc, the only person who has feats almost as impressive as his is Dimaria and she's stronger than him..
Ajeel is among the low tier S12 members, God Serena is in the top bracket of the S12

Now this is just vastly underplaying the GOI, you do realize Ant Lion Pit is an immobilization technique, right? It's not meant to last damage, look at what happened when he used it on Team Natsu in Alvarez, Natsu simply burned the sand away..Wolfheim should have enough physical strength to dispel the pit and Warrod can simply use Wood Style: Deep Forest Emergence to remove himself from the pit.

Spoiler: Green Magic

@lakhan220 @kira @Mononoke Warrod has this technique, right?!

--- Double Post Merged, Oct 13, 2016, Original Post Date: Oct 13, 2016 ---

I think it should be something like Erza>=Hyberion...I think Hyberion would have an easier time against Ajeel than Erza did so that's one factor I'm using into play here...
Erza herself isn't on Spriggan 12 level, so automatically that means she would be a tier below the Spriggan 12...that's where I would put the GOI and her plus mages like Mirajane..
How about that?

What is God Serena going to do when he's trapped in sandworld?

He loses the fight as soon as Ajeel uses that spell.

"Best feats"
What? Where?
Beating 4 mages with nothing but hype is not a feat.

 

[Arjuna]

What is God Serena going to do when he's trapped in sandworld?

He loses the fight as soon as Ajeel uses that spell.

"Best feats"
What? Where?
Beating 4 mages with nothing but hype is not a feat.

He is a Dragon Slayer and he can use his enhanced smell to detect Ajeel like Natsu,Wendy and Gajeel did or use a mountain busting attack to evaporate Sand World.

 

[Boomburst]

What evidence do we have that Natsu is close to Laxus's strength? So far, he's not until he becomes END, and even then it's not a surefire thing. Laxus took on a guild on his own and beat Jura.

I don't remember the story exactly, but few members here even say Laxus beat a Spriggan who was a bad matchup for him.

You keep using pre-timeskip feats as if they hold any weight whatsoever in current power rankings. Natsu has improved tremendously and we haven't seen anything to suggest that he isn't at least on the same level as Laxus.

And Laxus didn't beat a Spriggan who was a bad matchup for him, he oneshot him with a move he pulled straight out of his ass that logically shouldn't have even tickled him yet it ended up doing super effective damage. I don't really count that as a legitimate feat myself considering it made absolutely no sense whatsoever.

 

[Loke]

You keep using pre-timeskip feats as if they hold any weight whatsoever in current power rankings. Natsu has improved tremendously and we haven't seen anything to suggest that he isn't at least on the same level as Laxus.

And Laxus didn't beat a Spriggan who was a bad matchup for him, he oneshot him with a move he pulled straight out of his ass that logically shouldn't have even tickled him yet it ended up doing super effective damage. I don't really count that as a legitimate feat myself considering it made absolutely no sense whatsoever.

In a world where we've seen blue fire, orange fire, purple fire and golden fire, all of which possessing different properties, no RL is not an asspull. Do you even know what Mercury Fulminate refers to?

 

[**Silver**]

What is God Serena going to do when he's trapped in sandworld?

He loses the fight as soon as Ajeel uses that spell.

"Best feats"
What? Where?
Beating 4 mages with nothing but hype is not a feat.

if you consider Gmc Laxus and Jellal fodders then that is not anything impressive... and Gmc Laxus-----> current (Wendy Lucy)

 

[Boomburst]

In a world where we've seen blue fire, orange fire, purple fire and golden fire, all of which possessing different properties, no RL is not an asspull. Do you even know what Mercury Fulminate refers to?

It's an asspull considering that Laxus has never had the ability to use Red Lightning before. He's always used just regular lightning and DS lightning so him suddenly gaining the ability to use a completely different kind of lightning out of nowhere is most definitely an asspull.

 

[Loke]

It's an asspull considering that Laxus has never had the ability to use Red Lightning before. He's always used just regular lightning and DS lightning so him suddenly gaining the ability to use a completely different kind of lightning out of nowhere is most definitely an asspull.

Well it's a good thing it wasn't "sudden" then. It was stated Laxus spent the bulk of his time training by Ichiya. There you go.

 

[Boomburst]

Well it's a good thing it wasn't "sudden" then. It was stated Laxus spent the bulk of his time training by Ichiya. There you go.

Did Laxus train with Ichiya? Wasn't it stated that he spent most of that year training alone? How does Laxus training with Ichiya justify Laxus knowing an entirely new type of lightning anyways? And besides, if RL was really a thing Laxus knew how to do before the battle then why did Laxus wait so long to use it?

 

[Loke]

Did Laxus train with Ichiya? Wasn't it stated that he spent most of that year training alone? How does Laxus training with Ichiya justify Laxus knowing an entirely new type of lightning anyways? And besides, if RL was really a thing Laxus knew how to do before the battle then why did Laxus wait so long to use it?

Doesn't matter, the point is he actually trained. Training itself is what justifies it. This negates the spell being an asspull as it's obviously something he developed during training. Obviously he didn't use it immediately because he had to successfully set up runes and get himself cured first. One shotting Wahl would've been illogical in that situation.

 

[EdwardRictofin]

He is a Dragon Slayer and he can use his enhanced smell to detect Ajeel like Natsu,Wendy and Gajeel did or use a mountain busting attack to evaporate Sand World.

There is no proof of God Serena being able to perform mountain level attacks.

Ajeel can be all the way up in the sky while his sand eats away at his body.

 

[Arjuna]

There is no proof of God Serena being able to perform mountain level attacks.

Ajeel can be all the way up in the sky while his sand eats away at his body.

In Tenrou Gildarts used Empyrean on Bluenote(he was still alive after that attack) which could destroy a mountain so why can't God Serena do attacks stronger than that as he defeated mages all stronger than Bluenote..Moreover what can sand do to him when he due to his Dragon Slayer noses can move freely inside the sand.

 

[Static]

There is no proof of God Serena being able to perform mountain level attacks.

Ajeel can be all the way up in the sky while his sand eats away at his body.

Why can't GS blow away all the sand surrounding him with Gale DS magic? Then just confront Ajeel head on.

 

[M3J]

You keep using pre-timeskip feats as if they hold any weight whatsoever in current power rankings. Natsu has improved tremendously and we haven't seen anything to suggest that he isn't at least on the same level as Laxus.

And Laxus didn't beat a Spriggan who was a bad matchup for him, he oneshot him with a move he pulled straight out of his ass that logically shouldn't have even tickled him yet it ended up doing super effective damage. I don't really count that as a legitimate feat myself considering it made absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Which pre-timeskip? The seven-year or one-year after the guild was disbanded? If the seven-year, I believe I provided at least one feat after that timeskip. But again, nothing suggests he is on the same level as Laxus, especially when he was significantly weaker than Laxus to begin with. They both trained, and there's nothing to suggest Natsu right now is even close to Laxus's level.

Lot of things in the manga doesn't make sense, but it's still considered feats anyway.