Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2015-2016] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Kave]

Estimated Sales for Series (17 days)

111,042　Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 4
*72,143　Yakusoku no Neverland 1
*50,406　Fire Punch 3
*48,485　Kimetsu no Yaiba 4
*41,147　Sesuji wo Pin! to 8

Jump+ / Axed
*89,278　Boys Over Flowers: Next Season 5
*61,896　Kuroko no Basket: Replace Plus 5
*10,522　iShoujo+ 10
**7,733　Love Rush! 1

*49,445　Hinomaru Zumo 12 (31 days)
*49,099　Samon-kun wa Summoner 6 (34 days)

Here's the rest of it. The ones with grey text are numbers from Oricon.

WSJ (17 days)

640,261　Haikyuu!! 24
266,939　Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 2
277,049　World Trigger 17
181,207　Toriko 42
131,749　Black Clover 9
111,042　Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 4
*72,143　Yakusoku no Neverland 1
*48,485　Kimetsu no Yaiba 4
*41,147　Sesuji wo Pin! to 8
**7,733　Love Rush! 1

SQ (17d)

197,237　To LOVE-ru Darkness 17
106,114　Sousei no Onmyouji 10
*27,148　Wonder Rabbit Girl 5
*19,342　7th Garden 7
*17,009　Taishou Otome Otogibanashi 3
*11,242　Densetsu no Yuusha no Konkatsu 2
**7,312　Shakunetsu no Takkyuu Musume 5
**6,106　Qualidea Code 1

Jump+ (17d)

*89,278　Boys Over Flowers: Next Season 5
*61,896　Kuroko no Basket: Replace Plus 5
*50,406　Fire Punch 3
*10,522　iShoujo+ 10
**2,697　Full Charge!! Kaden-chan 3
**2,002　Cheer Danshi!!: Go Breakers 2

GIGA (17d)

*10,429　Tokyo Kigo Tanpou
**3,404　Shinigiwa
**1,951　Hanazamurai no Sahara
**1,068　Ginatashiki

Other (17d)

586,152　One Punch-Man 12
122,399　Dragon Ball Super 2
116,934　Kinnikuman 57

 

[Newkerzy]

Huh... I didn't expect Takuan's author to be close enough to Sorachi that they'd go out drinking together.... Could we expect a gag manga from Itani in the future?

 

[Xzone]

Well, he wish good luck when they axed Takuan.

Here's the rest of it. The ones with grey text are numbers from Oricon.

WSJ (17 days)

640,261　Haikyuu!! 24
266,939　Boruto: Naruto Next Generations 2
277,049　World Trigger 17
181,207　Toriko 42
131,749　Black Clover 9
111,042　Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san 4
*72,143　Yakusoku no Neverland 1
*48,485　Kimetsu no Yaiba 4
*41,147　Sesuji wo Pin! to 8
**7,733　Love Rush! 1

SQ (17d)

197,237　To LOVE-ru Darkness 17
106,114　Sousei no Onmyouji 10
*27,148　Wonder Rabbit Girl 5
*19,342　7th Garden 7
*17,009　Taishou Otome Otogibanashi 3
*11,242　Densetsu no Yuusha no Konkatsu 2
**7,312　Shakunetsu no Takkyuu Musume 5
**6,106　Qualidea Code 1

Jump+ (17d)

*89,278　Boys Over Flowers: Next Season 5
*61,896　Kuroko no Basket: Replace Plus 5
*50,406　Fire Punch 3
*10,522　iShoujo+ 10
**2,697　Full Charge!! Kaden-chan 3
**2,002　Cheer Danshi!!: Go Breakers 2

GIGA (17d)

*10,429　Tokyo Kigo Tanpou
**3,404　Shinigiwa
**1,951　Hanazamurai no Sahara
**1,068　Ginatashiki

Other (17d)

586,152　One Punch-Man 12
122,399　Dragon Ball Super 2
116,934　Kinnikuman 57

Saporo and the Himedol author volume still isn't out?I don't remember the cover

 

[N0R7H]

Hanazamurai no Sahara less than 2000? Wow, I really liked that manga, I was expecting a lot more.

 

[Nakura]

What are your Top 5/10 Events in WSJ manga in 2016, now that the year is over?

 

[Kave]

 

[Azure Warrior]

Shounen Jump X Poster

Yuragisou no Yuuna-san

Spoiler

Shuumatsu no Harem

Spoiler

The images are broken for me.

Maybe it's my connection.

 

[Nayrael]

Yeah I'm glad I'm not the only turned off by her from first glance. She isn't terrible but doesn't stand out like how you want the heroine (if it's her) to stand out. Hopefully she'll be like Nami, gets better along the way

With the pacing that the Demon's Plan has, she is standing out as any other (shallow) Shounen heroine. My problem is that you could turn her into an illiterate peasant girl that spent her whole life sweeping her evil mother's floors, and it would not affect the story at all (well, other than the way Boro meets her). I mean, an Information Broker as the heroine is a very cool idea and a great setup to make an interesting and cool character. An Information Broker should not be "Woah, I didn't know that! And I didn't know this either! Woah, look at all the stuff I didn't know about!" but "Yeah, let me tell you even more about it and even give you a way to fuck 'em all up!"

But let me return to what I mentioned at start of this post: the pacing. DP is sprinting waaay too fast, IMO. I appreciate that the first two chapters were fast-paced as they were, but after that you are expected to slow up a little, and use the slow down for character building, introducing new characters and world building.
But Boro immediately reached this city, immediately after got attacked and fought another Demon, immediately after met a new demon and that guy immediately introduces the first Shounen Villain Brigade of this Manga. It technically keeps the excitement constant, but that excitement is negated by a growing apathy towards the characters and the plot.
One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, MHA, HunterxHunter, DGM, Hitman Reborn, NuraMago, Fairy Tail, Dragon Ball, Mushibugyou... they all started semi-episodic and introduced their first Shounen Villain Brigade (and the first major arc) only after several of lighter arcs. Start the story, then start a series of short arcs that introduce recurring characters and plot elements and then, just as the readers start to feel a little bored and safe, you start the first exciting arc with the first high-level villains for which the fans will be saying "It gets good in the XYZ arc!". For a battle shounen, this is a proven winning formula.

Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, but chapter 6 made me fear that the author is going to skip the traditional steps while not having the necessary amount of skill to score a good work without it. I mean, a group of people which kills entire armies without a sweat which is likely to come before ch10 is out (why otherwise introduce the entire group with such detailed designs)? This is waaaay too high-level for character whose story just started. If Boro can beat these people without having to build relationships with numerous characters, and without going through a lot of character and ability development, then what is there to be excited about? Where is the satisfaction of seeing a weakling steadily grow to become a world-renown hero?

 

[Leoat12]

Gintama was in that "end no end" the entire year and it ended up not ending in the end. I'm starting to see another Bleach in this one. I will give more 3~4 years until this ends.

 

[SoldadoInvernal]

I Hope the the Love Rush's guy come back, but not writing.

Gintama was in that "end no end" the entire year and it ended up not ending in the end. I'm starting to see another Bleach in this one. I will give more 3~4 years until this ends.

I have no problem with that XD

 

[HIGAN0]

Maybe it's my connection.

nah , it's not about your connection, the link broke.............FIx

 

[jagman1x3]

The ending of Animored pretty much outright said it'd be continued in some way, so maybe it'll be a thing along with Ana no Mujina. Concept was okay, actual plot had the author's usual problem of being so obvious that after the first few pages I may as well have been looking at drawings of the plot twists in my head from five pages ago. The Neverland side chapter was also pretty cute.

 

[SoldadoInvernal]

The ending of Animored pretty much outright said it'd be continued in some way, so maybe it'll be a thing along with Ana no Mujina. Concept was okay, actual plot had the author's usual problem of being so obvious that after the first few pages I may as well have been looking at drawings of the plot twists in my head from five pages ago. The Neverland side chapter was also pretty cute.

There's a side chapter of Neverland on Jump Cross?

 

[jagman1x3]

There's a side chapter of Neverland on Jump Cross?

Yeah, a short 4-panel chapter about Norman getting a cold six years before the main series.

 

[Halloween]

Yeah, a short 4-panel chapter about Norman getting a cold six years before the main series.

How do we go about reading it?

 

[jagman1x3]

How do we go about reading it?

Took me either a few bucks or a quick Google search to get the magazine, plus like six years and counting to learn Japanese so you'll probably want to get started on that soon.

 

[Tanzo]

Nice Neverland chapter. Will need to re-read this when Viz SJ comes out since quality is pretty bad.

Looks like Tadahiro was possibly running a bit late with Yuragi 45, some of the pages looked off. That may just be it being a comedy chapter though.

 

[jagman1x3]

Finished reading Jump X, there were a few good oneshots. Higuma no Te was my favorite, it would probably work really well as a series, which means that's never happening. Sky Claw was good as a oneshot, doubt it'll get serialized but the author had two oneshots in the issue and he only just turned 18 so he'll probably do more stuff soon. Two Lap was pretty funny, felt like something Haruhara Robinson would write, which is definitely a good thing. Everything else kind of sucked.

 

[Scruffy8642]

The ending of Animored pretty much outright said it'd be continued in some way, so maybe it'll be a thing along with Ana no Mujina. Concept was okay, actual plot had the author's usual problem of being so obvious that after the first few pages I may as well have been looking at drawings of the plot twists in my head from five pages ago. The Neverland side chapter was also pretty cute.

Animored seemed interesting, but I haven't read it properly yet. Neverland's chapter was hilarious. I hope it gets translated for others to read. It kind of makes me realise of how messed up the concept is though. Mum's been with the kids all their lives, watched them grow and had great memories with them and still has to ship them out to be killed. Fire Punch's special chapter was also hilarious.

 

[Mammo]

tfw neverland omake is dumped and translated in the most obvious place ever but people still can't find it




about jump cross oneshots, most of them are 2016 jump treasure winners

http://www.shonenjump.com/j/mangasho/treasureread.html

so the artists must be very young, I was looking forward to Aisuru mono no tame ni since I already follow the artist on twitter and his art kinda reminds me of shaman king but not anymore