Chapter Tower of God Chapter 320 Discussion / 321 Predictions

[Demonspeed]

if you're a brother of an irregular you're an irregular? dunno, i guess, certain people are considered irregulars, v, grace, zahard, the 10 head were all irregular, so theres a chance luslec is an irregular

But Luslec wasn't with the ones who entered in the Tower by themselves, he was already living there as a Regular. Arlen comes from outside so they can't be from the same family.

Isn't Enryuu the red-haired guy at the end? He looks more with Hwa Ryun's family rather than Baam. V looks like an older version of Baam. I wonder why they are impressed because shinso becomes red when Enryu is around, could this red shinso has something to do with creating life?

Yes, when I saw Enryu at the end I thought he might be the ancestor of the Red Witches. Speaking of Red Witches, I guess the second one who guided Yuri and the others is Yuto.

 

[Kshunsui]

we recently know that the 10 heads of the 10 families are irregulars, so luslec could be an iregular, so for some reason he's slayer number 1

 

[4n0m4ly]

Whats the point in him being a slayer though. If he's a regular he wont be able to slay the king.
Or am i missing something?

 

[Kshunsui]

Whats the point in him being a slayer though. If he's a regular he wont be able to slay the king.
Or am i missing something?

thats my point, every slayer has the posibility of kill zahard

 

[Bigsprink]

The Grace in his name is most likely something he chose to get the attention of Zahard and his warriors, a pseudonym. Just like Wangnan(it's not his real name) and Karaka(probably). This or he joined the family in a way on the 80th Floor, adoption or something.

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I said that one of the reasons I didn't believe Baam was Zahard's son because of his physical abilities but that reveals doesn't really solve the problem I had with this theory. If he's the son of two Irregulars who climbed with Zahard, why are his physical abilities below those of the 10 Families overall? Those two were exceptions?



Some FUG members must know about Karaka, I guess he is one of them.

I hope so he's a slayer after all

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Didn't he say that he officially doesn't have one?



He was V's servant so he's knows them. But Luslec was a Regular so he can't be related to Arlen by blood.

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But Luslec wasn't with the ones who entered in the Tower by themselves, he was already living there as a Regular. Arlen comes from outside so they can't be from the same family.



Yes, when I saw Enryu at the end I thought he might be the ancestor of the Red Witches. Speaking of Red Witches, I guess the second one who guided Yuri and the others is Yuto.

Hwaryun is yuto

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thats my point, every slayer has the posibility of kill zahard

The only person in fug capable of killing Zahard is Bam. An irregular.

 

[Demonspeed]

Hwaryun is yuto

She was hiding her identity as Yuto but Yuto really exists. SIU said so on his blog, he also said that Hwa Ryun and Yuto were the only Regular Guides.

The only person in fug capable of killing Zahard is Bam. An irregular.

Also Urek. Since the two other Irregulars are inactive.

 

[Kadir0]

Isn't Enryuu the red-haired guy at the end? He looks more with Hwa Ryun's family rather than Baam. V looks like an older version of Baam. I wonder why they are impressed because shinso becomes red when Enryu is around, could this red shinso has something to do with creating life?

I don't know, but he really gives me Baam vibe.

Spoiler

 

[Bigsprink]

She was hiding her identity as Yuto but Yuto really exists. SIU said so on his blog, he also said that Hwa Ryun and Yuto were the only Regular Guides.



Also Urek. Since the two other Irregulars are inactive.

Urek isn't apart of fug though and he doesn't care about zahards empire.

 

[kkck]

Isn't Enryuu the red-haired guy at the end? He looks more with Hwa Ryun's family rather than Baam. V looks like an older version of Baam. I wonder why they are impressed because shinso becomes red when Enryu is around, could this red shinso has something to do with creating life?

Honestly, this is what I have been wondering for a while now. Clearly the color red in general has some special significance in general. You have enryu's mystery red shinsoo, the red thorn, the prince of the red light district (which I still kinda think is the floor of death). Clearly there is greater meaning behind all of this.

 

[Kadir0]

Urek isn't apart of fug though and he doesn't care about zahards empire.

True but if that god that saved Baam is Phanta, then there's clearly a reason he brought Urek to the tower as well. Maybe become Baam's mentor, whether Urek like it or not, he will definitely be in the middle of this storm.

 

[Bigsprink]

True but if that god that saved Baam is Phanta, then there's clearly a reason he brought Urek to the tower as well. Maybe become Baam's mentor, whether Urek like it or not, he will definitely be in the middle of this storm.

Urek came into the tower to find phanta,phanta didn't bring him.

 

[Kadir0]

Urek came into the tower to find phanta,phanta didn't bring him.

I didn't mean literal, i mean the same way Rachel brought Baam to the tower except if Phanta is a god, his actions might not be a meaninless and has purpose for Urek.

 

[kkck]

Another thought about bam given the past revelations: "the 25th night" is not the day bam was born. It was the day he was resurrected.

 

[Lady pompom]

There's a flashback in which Rachel tells Baam a story about a man who constructed a tower of piled rocks to get closer to some star. I was wondering if the story was meant for Baam. He piled those rocks to get closer to the "light" at the celiling of the cave, but he dcouldn't get out, and it looked the place was sealed (impeding him from going out, although, Rachel could enter easily and leave when she wanted to. It could also refer to his climbng to the tower after her.

True but if that god that saved Baam is Phanta, then there's clearly a reason he brought Urek to the tower as well. Maybe become Baam's mentor, whether Urek like it or not, he will definitely be in the middle of this storm.

Urek going to the Floor of Death will mean he will (finally) meet Baam and he will probably be enthusiastic about being a mentor for Baam (much like Yuri is proud of Endorsi/Androssi and taught her that killing skill she used some chaps ago). I agree he will play some big part and that he might not be fully aware of it yet. Plus, I believe Yuri is probably being deceived and impelled to do something here too (she even mentions she feels is being dragged by a huge wave after Maschenny proposes te bet for Green april/Yellow May), but I have the feeling Yuri will lose this bet ( it will surely bring great turmoil for the tower and it could lead to the plot of the third season being focused on the princess).

 

[ralkij]

I know it is simplistic, but it is quite possible Luslec just adopted the name Grace as some form of honor to Arlene or V. With that he/she(don't think gender has been explicitly stated) could still just be a regular.

A bit out there, but given that the information in the recent chapters come from Arlene's diary I think it possible that Arlene is actually Luslec. This would mean that she manipulated the diary and information to make it look like V had a follower to give her an alternate identity to hide from Jahard maybe. Only a possibility. I would take this possibility with a grain of salt.

Another theory I thought of going back to possibility of Baam being the true prince. I think this theory is actually still alive. We know at least according to the info provided with the rough translation that Luslec followed V as his "king". this could just be a fancy way of saying leader, but the fact that at least according to this translation it is king used as the word seems suspicious. We know the story early in season 2 was ambiguous in chapters with both Wangnan and Baam when referring to a prince. What if V was originally meant to be the true king of the tower, but for whatever reason the 10 warriors sided with Zahard. Perhaps V and Arlene even went with it at first due to friendship, but eventually as they climbed maybe they noticed a change in Zahard that led to a true falling out, but by that time most of the tower thought Zahard was the rightful king. This would still leave open the possibility of Baam being the true prince. Maybe not of Zahard, but the tower itself.

Again these last two theories of mine I really don't think are plausible and part of me doesn't want the last theory to be true, but I think there is a possibility for some form of it.

 

[axl2608]

I agree with the fact that Luslec could have adopted the name Grace and not be borne with it, but I disagree with one thing: Arlene being Luslec for multiple reasons:
- if she wanted to hide she could have chosen a different name than Grace.
- she wouldn't have treated her son(for whom she did everything to revive) like FUG did to Baam.
- is she want's revenge on Zahard she might attract more sympathy with her real story and not with FUG

The second theory is interesting and plausible

 

[jjrock01]

So Rachel knew about Arlen, which means she must have been living on the Fod. But the question remains how did she know about Baam and what exactly was her relationship to Arlen? I think she must have found out about Baam through the stories which were pasted down on the Fod, or she may have known Arlen before the enryu incident. The ultimate question now after these recent reveals is why does Rachel want to fulfill Arlen's wish/prophecy? I am convinced that she does want starry skies, cool breeze etc.(as she has stated many times), but there is still more to her ultimate goal. I don't think Rachel is long for this world, knowing what we know now. There is one prophecy and it belongs to Baam.

 

[kkck]

So Rachel knew about Arlen, which means she must have been living on the Fod. But the question remains how did she know about Baam and what exactly was her relationship to Arlen? I think she must have found out about Baam through the stories which were pasted down on the Fod, or she may have known Arlen before the enryu incident. The ultimate question now after these recent reveals is why does Rachel want to fulfill Arlen's wish/prophecy? I am convinced that she does want starry skies, cool breeze etc.(as she has stated many times), but there is still more to her ultimate goal. I don't think Rachel is long for this world, knowing what we know now. There is one prophecy and it belongs to Baam.

I have been thinking that rachel is from the floor of death but I find the idea a tad weird also.... Even siu has said bam and rachel know secrets about the outside of the tower. I can understand rachel knowing stuff. Arlene could have told her. But what about bam? Did rachel tell him stuff? Or did he pick it up on his own? If he picked it up on his own then it sound like that would be because he has been there. Now, it does make sense bam and rachel were at the floor of death originally...

I don't think there is more to rachel's goal to be honest. I think she just got to care about arlen, and wants to realize her dream. Who knows what else rachel was told about the outside by her. If they were at the floor of death then the whole thing must have sound like paradise to her.

 

[axl2608]

I don't think that Rachel want's to fulfill Arlen's wish.
I reread the first season and at the end, we see Rachel having a flashback to the first floor.
When Baam past the test before her, she was really upset and started crying that it is not fair that Baam get's to go up the tower and not her.
I don't know why she was nice to Baam before entering the tower, but from what we have seen since, she did everything for her.

I think that even when she made Baam fail the test on the Floor of Tests, she did it because she made a deal with FUG. They wanted to get Baam in their hands and she wanted to be able to climb the tower.

 

[jjrock01]

I don't think there is more to rachel's goal to be honest. I think she just got to care about arlen, and wants to realize her dream. Who knows what else rachel was told about the outside by her. If they were at the floor of death then the whole thing must have sound like paradise to her.

One of the reason's I think there is more to it then just finding paradise is because her actions don't match her words. She says she wants paradise, but at the same time she is climbing the tower, building a team, looking for the thorn and if she says that she will fufill Arlen's wish that entails killing Zahard which is revenge in my book. Now maybe there is another way to break out of the tower, something Arlen might have told her. If that is the case, then why go through all this trouble. We were so close to knowing everything she knew during the Hell Train games when she made that bet with Koon. I am hoping she will eventually spill the beans during this arc.