Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[xAsum0x]

General consensus seems to pacing, but my personal issue with the series is mainly Luffy, the series redundancy and the sense of danger.

 

[Leoat12]

I think the majority of criticism towards One Piece, from both readers and non-readers are related to length. Non-readers doesn't read the series because they think it is too long and will need a very long time to catch up. The readers criticize some arcs because of it length and sometimes the lack of purpose from some characters (aka running around the entire arc). I am aware of these problems as a reader, but I think there isn't much Oda can do about it. One Piece is an epic manga, it has a lot of characters and the events happening in that moment will influence the story for a long time and in many places in the world of the story. The arcs generally has a lot of fronts that has to be showed, ones more important and others less important. Oda has to manage a lot of variables to make it good, really... I think the length and sometimes the lack of purpose from some characters are a small price to pay. In the end, everything comes together magnificently well, it is astonishing how Oda can relate things that looked unrelated.

Dressrosa was a key arc and we will feel its impact for a long time so it is sad to see people dropping the series in this arc, I saw a lot of people doing such a thing. The series has becoming better and better lately mostly because of Dressrosa events. So it is always important to have in mind the big picture when reading One Piece, not only what is happening at that moment. Sanji disappearance in Dressrosa, which was the joke of the entire arc, was the trigger for a huge chain of events that brought up things from way back to Fisherman Island, which is in turn is considered by a lot of people a filler arc.

 

[G_I_A]

On last week's jump that were a preview image about the

Spoiler

Straw Haw Hat pirates X Big Mom Pirates.

I think the shit will get serious from here on.

 

[Koi Kage]

I think the majority of criticism towards One Piece, from both readers and non-readers are related to length. Non-readers doesn't read the series because they think it is too long and will need a very long time to catch up. The readers criticize some arcs because of it length and sometimes the lack of purpose from some characters (aka running around the entire arc). I am aware of these problems as a reader, but I think there isn't much Oda can do about it. One Piece is an epic manga, it has a lot of characters and the events happening in that moment will influence the story for a long time and in many places in the world of the story. The arcs generally has a lot of fronts that has to be showed, ones more important and others less important. Oda has to manage a lot of variables to make it good, really... I think the length and sometimes the lack of purpose from some characters are a small price to pay. In the end, everything comes together magnificently well, it is astonishing how Oda can relate things that looked unrelated.

Dressrosa was a key arc and we will feel its impact for a long time so it is sad to see people dropping the series in this arc, I saw a lot of people doing such a thing. The series has becoming better and better lately mostly because of Dressrosa events. So it is always important to have in mind the big picture when reading One Piece, not only what is happening at that moment. Sanji disappearance in Dressrosa, which was the joke of the entire arc, was the trigger for a huge chain of events that brought up things from way back to Fisherman Island, which is in turn is considered by a lot of people a filler arc.

No ones discounting that things connect from other arcs, but think the arcs themselves could be shorten by a small margin, as for the characters that lack a purpose if they don't actually help the arc along then they shouldn't be show cased to cut down on the needles page buffers.

 

[Ecchi Boy]

I think people dropped One Piece because its becoming a chore to do instead of fun most of the complaints I been hearing is that one piece rehashes the plot with each island or land they visit, they say its always about a land being controlled by the villian of that arc and People being enslaved by him or her and Luffy and the strawhats always come to save the day. this happens with 70% of the manga I think some just got bored with it. but then all long running manga suffer from getting stale I hope This does't happen with MHA or other current manga.

 

[WyldViolet]

I don't know anyone who disliked Zou.

 

[TM2]

I think people dropped One Piece because its becoming a chore to do instead of fun most of the complaints I been hearing is that one piece rehashes the plot with each island or land they visit, they say its always about a land being controlled by the villian of that arc and People being enslaved by him or her and Luffy and the strawhats always come to save the day. this happens with 70% of the manga I think some just got bored with it. but then all long running manga suffer from getting stale I hope This does't happen with MHA or other current manga.

I think it has something to do with the sheer amount of time One Piece has been running. Unless OP goes for a genre or tone shift there are only so many ways the audience can see the main cast in certain lights. Superhero comics seem to have this issue after going on for so long, so the universe reboots itself every so often to provide new avenues to explore established characters with. Not necessarily for the better though as seen in DC'New 52 lineup. However it can breath new life into a character if done right as seen in the Rebirth line or anything post-Crisis on Infinite Earth.

 

[Ecchi Boy]

I don't know anyone who disliked Zou.

I like Zou, Carrot is my Favorite but yeah I don't know anyone that hated it

 

[tirakai]

I saw one guy saying he didn't like Zou because it didn't have enough fights.

He then went on to praise Fishman Island for mixing the lore and crew shenanigans into the action really well and complained about Zou lacking those though so I think he was just trolling.

 

[Kadir0]

Did Oda ever talk about why the boobs of his female characters are getting bigger? That's my only complaint about One Piece.

 

[Leoat12]

No ones discounting that things connect from other arcs, but think the arcs themselves could be shorten by a small margin, as for the characters that lack a purpose if they don't actually help the arc along then they shouldn't be show cased to cut down on the needles page buffers.

Like I said, due to multiples fronts it is very hard to be short with 20 pages per week. I doesn't matter if it is long as long as the chapters are useful to the story as a whole and Oda has the ability to do it, all chapters are meaningful in some way. It is really hard to say "it could be taken out" because it can be relevant later. Oh, they do help the arcs, but they can take a long time to read the point where they are useful, it is a problem in a big world like One Piece. Any manga in Jump right now have arcs in such large places like One Piece, this is insane, it is an entire island most of the arcs.

I think Big Mom's arc has been shorter than the recent ones, I think they are already going to the climax when other arcs were just beginning at this stage.

--- Double Post Merged, Feb 27, 2017, Original Post Date: Feb 27, 2017 ---

Did Oda ever talk about why the boobs of his female characters are getting bigger? That's my only complaint about One Piece.

I know what you mean... Big Mom ones are especially big.
I can only see base for this complain when it comes to figures, but in the manga... Not that much...

 

[Tamil]

Did Oda ever talk about why the boobs of his female characters are getting bigger? That's my only complaint about One Piece.

Somewhat explained in volume 78 SBS. D stands for Dokusha (Reader) and O stands for Oda.

D: We realized that Robin has huge breasts.

We checked from the side, and Nami also has huge breasts.

Why do they both have such huge breasts?

And could it be Oda-san's preference?

That was a question from us two 10-year-olds. P.N. Sakucchan & Yuzu-chan

O: I keep saying this, but I'm just bringing the young boys' dreams to life! All of humanity on earth! I command your breasts to grow~!

Read more
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_78

 

[Leoat12]

Oda said the words! Boobs for all tastes!

 

[Kadir0]

Somewhat explained in volume 78 SBS. D stands for Dokusha (Reader) and O stands for Oda.

Lol, OK that's fair enough.

 

[Doughboy]

That's the greatest explanation I've ever heard in my life. Dicks out for Oda. Seeing 10 year olds write that though makes me feel old and I'm not even old.

 

[xAsum0x]

I liked U19 3rd chapter alot. The cast of characters seem to be enjoyable.

 

[Koi Kage]

I liked U19 3rd chapter alot. The cast of characters seem to be enjoyable.

Mind if I ask where you read it?

 

[xAsum0x]

Mind if I ask where you read it?

Viz

 

[TyVip]

Poro chapter 2 is fun to read. Although it still failed to make me laugh. Although, I like it much more than Samon-kun summoner.

U19 is still meh. If Viz dropped it I wouldn't miss it too much. However, I did vote for Poro/U19 on the 3rd and 4th spot (totally forgot to vote for Hungry Marie haha).

But regardless, if they do well then good for the authors.

 

[HIGAN0]

Poro chapter 2 is kinda meh,no comedy & because the MC is OP as fu*k , the fight was boring.
U19 pacing is really slow.....