Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[savethecat]

Is that Twitter guy y'all keep posting like a manga blogger or something? Just someone whose opinion on manga people like to hear? Maybe I'm old, but I've missed the context entirely.

Semi-popular anime/manga vlogger in the anime/manga community. Not huge but popular enough to spread news throughout anime fans(partially due to him being friends with bigger youtubers). He makes a lot of Anti-Jump videos due to them cancelling Bleach, his favorite series. Him and a few other anime/manga youtubers often spread false info regarding the magazines to their fanbases

 

[Bigivelfhq]

My point entirely... Anime exist (majority) to promote the media where the series originated.

That is not really true. Like any product, specifically one with many hands on it, it has a ton of stakeholders. Each stakeholder has different interests.

The majority of anime adaptation main stakeholders isn't the source publisher. In fact most of the time in production committee the main one is the disk distributor or merchandise distributor.

About trying to find one reason why anime exists. Remember anime exists for many reasons. Trying to place just one reason, is starting wrong from the start. If you have/want to filter any other reason for existence of an anime then you should focus on its media and what its media directly affects. And that most the times is the TV viewership.

--- Double Post Merged, Mar 4, 2017, Original Post Date: Mar 4, 2017 ---

What makes you so sure he knows how it works himself? The TOC, as far as from what I've seen here that most people believe, doesn't always reflect the ranks a series may have gotten, however the TOC is generally viewed as gauge on how well it's doing in terms of marketability for the magazine: Some of the ones with a possible better market value to the magazine will generally be further up front, those with a lesser market value to the magazine will go further back, and titles that are unranked/oneshotes/gags(<- gags seem to be the genre that are probably the most stable in terms of marketing and readers rankings) are used as buffers to space out the series in the magazine.

And that means "based by popularity"!

Do you know what "based" or "indicative" means right? It is not synonymous of "exact".

 

[vampire killer]

Thank you very much. And yes, hinamatsuri selling more than WT? just wow...

What do you expect mate. The manga is dead. I will be surprised if it even manage to sell 200k this time.

 

[N0R7H]

In the last episode of Koro-sensei Q! they made a teaser of a new series from Yuusei Matsui (also Neuro appeared doing the teaser). Do you think he will return this year?

 

[vampire killer]

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ne...on-u.s-monthly-bookscan-february-list/.112973
BHA is dominating the west. Even One punch man and tokyo ghou look pathetic in terms of sales.

 

[DyanSon]

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/ne...on-u.s-monthly-bookscan-february-list/.112973
BHA is dominating the west. Even One punch man and tokyo ghou look pathetic in terms of sales.

I'm glad to hear that news but Nah west doesn't matter

 

[vampire killer]

west have bigger population than japan and japan is usa bitch so it matter way more than you think. EU matter even more. mate

 

[Kefka Palazzo]

west have bigger population than japan and japan is usa bitch so it matter way more than you think. EU matter even more. mate

Exactly. But it doesn't work this way in the manga market.

 

[savethecat]

west have bigger population than japan and japan is usa bitch so it matter way more than you think. EU matter even more. mate

We have a bigger market, but manga barely sells anything in the US. I do however think it's very good news that MHA is selling so well here

 

[Shinji Hirako]

One Punch Man and Tokyo Ghoul are bigger than My Hero Academia in the US. The Tokyo Ghoul volume which came out in February was released 14 days after the My Hero Academia one. Also One Punch Man did not even have a new volume released in February yet it's January volume still ranked.

 

[Nakura]

I don't think anyone was contesting that.

 

[G_I_A]

One Punch Man and Tokyo Ghoul are bigger than My Hero Academia in the US. The Tokyo Ghoul volume which came out in February was released 14 days after the My Hero Academia one. Also One Punch Man did not even have a new volume released in February yet it's January volume still ranked.

They are bigger than MHA anywhere... Both are "stick to the point manga", not filled with unnecessary bubbles and "hiatus x hiatus" wannabe depth.

 

[Mammo]

once again people are taking vampire killer's very obvious baits, c'mon people he's not even trying

tsutaya daily ranking
http://store-tsutaya.tsite.jp/rank/book_sell.html?r=D059

Moriarty in top 20 and Kemono Jihen is not
this is the darkest timeline

 

[savethecat]

Anyone know how Death Note did in the ToC before and after than anime? Just curious

 

[vampire killer]

Chilling in the middle. Even after the anime it was in the middle.

 

[Mawara]

Exactly. But it doesn't work this way in the manga market.

But why though? I am curious, how mangaka & magazines think about the west as an audience. Are there comments or interviews how they view the USA & EU as a market or is everything beyond the ocean just extra money not worth thinking about it?

 

[Mammo]

Anyone know how Death Note did in the ToC before and after than anime? Just curious

the manga ended during the anime run
you can check out how it was doing here
there's an option to change the year under the wsj tab
http://pharaodopazoplus.blogspot.co.uk/p/weekly-shonen-jump-pure-rankings-2006.html

 

[vampire killer]

But why though? I am curious, how mangaka & magazines think about the west as an audience. Are there comments or interviews how they view the USA & EU as a market or is everything beyond the ocean just extra money not worth thinking about it?

Its the same way DC and Marvel view Japan. Otaku country for 30years old useless people dat have money. Just change Otaku with weebs.

 

[Xzone]

Hinomaru zumou sales are better than the 90% of dc/Marvel volume sales un usa...

 

[G_I_A]

Hinomaru zumou sales are better than the 90% of dc/Marvel volume sales un usa...

Printed sales, right?