August can easily nullify magic like he did to Gildarts, until he used the prosthesis. If he can undo the magic on any object Irene enchants, I assume he'd be able to do the same to Gildarts prosthesis. But the fact that he couldn't leads me to believe objects are out of his scope, which Gildarts hypothesised in the chapter imo.
What do you picture happening then, her beating August continuously with her enhanced stick? Thats not happening.
...............with magic. Anyone can technically land a hit on anyone with magic, at least the people who have nigh instantaneous attacks. That does not at all translate into her landing a hit in CQC. A solitary hit wouldn't do anything to August anyways.
If August fights as he fought Gildarts then sure, she wouldn't get curbed (albeit still loose without dealing any real damage). If he fights using his arsenal then she does get curbed, there is no other way about it. I could come up with a hundred different combos he could screw her over with with just the magic he would have from the 12 alone.
Scans?
brandish may know about her dragon form but i doubt it. Irene said it herself that the last they met it was when she was young. I doubt she has seen her dragon form. It was not just based on mp it was also based of skill, because she said that Irene is also the only person capable of defeating him. How would she do that with just MP?
I see no reason as to why she would know much about either of them. Its a statement based on MP and its been said through out time and time again that they seem frighteningly strong because of their MP. She never said Irene is the only one capable of defeating August, she said that Irene is the only one who is not completely out-matched by August, quite a massive difference. And again, its likely a statement based on MP as MP has been the go-to measuring stick in FT since the beginning, just like its likely a measuring stick for hiro himself, so he doesnt have to come up with and take into account the intricate abilities when he is just initially trying to set a bar of hype.
Thats fine.
that was not all do to natsu future was also there and damaging motherglare with his attacks.
I see no reason as to why she would know much about either of them. Its a statement based on MP and its been said through out time and time again that they seem frighteningly strong because of their MP. She never said Irene is the only one capable of defeating August, she said that Irene is the only one who is not completely out-matched by August, quite a massive difference. And again, its likely a statement based on MP as MP has been the go-to measuring stick in FT since the beginning, just like its likely a measuring stick for hiro himself, so he doesnt have to come up with and take into account the intricate abilities when he is just initially trying to set a bar of hype.
Thats fine.
Huh? Future Rogue wasn't damaging Motherglare, they were on the same team. And if he had damaged Motherglare, that doesn't exactly make the dragon look any better lol. If all it takes it Future Rogue to damage Motherglare, then a spriggan would utterly slaughter one. Don't even get me started on the strongest mage who has ever lived (Warrods words).
That doesnt mean anything though. I've never seen my dad mad, believe it or not. Thats my dad (and im an old fuck). Unless August fought right in front of Brandish she would have had no way of knowing anything, and I find it hard to believe that Alvarez encountered a problem that a regular spriggan couldnt handle and August had to deal with. Both are peerless in MP, Brandish probably assumed. Makarov made the audacious claim that August was in a whole other league from the other spriggan and he had nothing but MP to go off of either. As did Natsu and co. Like I said before, MP is used as a measuring stick for peoples power, its not actually the end all be all of hype.
There was a decent amount of PiS in the Irene fight, though there was at least as much in August fight. The dude didnt use ANYTHING. He could have used Larcade's magic, or Age Seal, for instance, and instantly win, but nah, he toyed around and got actuallly hurt. Just like Irene toyed and stared at Erza stabbing her.
Imbuing something with magical power would give a power-boost regardless. It probably wasn't anything ground breaking, but it would still be a boost.
I think August would be able to copy Irene's enchant magic itself, and be able to dispel Irene's enchantments in the same way Wendy did. He doesn't have to copy the staff itself.Just on August' magic, is it fair to say that he can Instantaneous Copy magic on people, but not objects? Holder magic, and magic tools then? Such is Gildarts prosthesis...
So would a magic tool be much different from this?
In my opinion, Irene made a magic tool via enchantment, albeit briefly. So it's quite possible for Irene to defeat August as a human imo.
However, in a battle, could Irene figure it out? Would she bother affixing magic to a weapon? Or if she used her staff, maybe then she could gather enough info like Gildarts did to form the same hypothesis?
Irene edges on feats. August edges on portrayal. Calling this fairly even.
I don't think August can dragonize even if he did copy dragon slaying magic, and so Irene would have a definite advantage when it comes to a physical fight. Still the melt nuke was probably August using Natsu's dragon slaying magic, so he can probably knock Irene from her dragon form if he can land an attack. Of course, Irene can probably shatter most of August's bones with a claw swipe, so really it could go either way IMO. The two were hyped to be equals, and so that's basically where I have them.
I think he can copy enchantment (the magic) and use Deus Zero. He wouldn't be able to stop an enchanted weapon though, he can dodge it.
they were fighting on top of her and both causing damage. Who is this strongest mage that ever lived?Huh? Future Rogue wasn't damaging Motherglare, they were on the same team. And if he had damaged Motherglare, that doesn't exactly make the dragon look any better lol. If all it takes it Future Rogue to damage Motherglare, then a spriggan would utterly slaughter one. Don't even get me started on the strongest mage who has ever lived (Warrods words).
Looks a lot worse when you take in account that Rogue took the brunt of that attack and got up before Motherglare doesnt it
it literaly says both on peerless in skills.
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the amount of pis is not even close in their fights.
Hmmm... That's fair. Although I actually wouldn't give August the benefit of the doubt here. If he hasn't shown to use a certain kind of magic, then I won't assume he has it for the purposes of these battles. Just like how I personally don't give Bradman all of Tartaros' curses even though he claims he has them.
There is a difference between PIS and asspull. Not a single one of these are examples of PIS.
Haha, maybe. Mid diffing the GoI is certainly better than losing to Ikaurga, Azuma and Kyoka, but busting a Meteor is a pretty decent feat.
But what can we see from her fight against Acno? The only physical aspect of that fight was dodging his nuke, still doesnt give us an example of any particularly good CQC. At best it shows that if August were to attack her she'd be pretty good at dodging. She still hasnt shown anything on the level of overpowering enraged Gildarts in CQC, and August did that without any additional boosts like Racer's or Cobra's magic.
That's what I mean. August can copy Irene's magic, and then dispel her enchantment. Even if he doesn't dodge, Irene's staff should just hit him with the force of a wooden stick. He's got a staff of his own, so he's not completely defenseless either.
I'm fine with that, as long as he's constantly on the go ready to use Deus Zero.
