No they weren't, and if they were that doesnt make Motherglare look any better. It makes her look worse. If the mere byproduct of an attack from Rogue and Natsu is damaging Motherglare then what does that tell us someone of Augusts level would do?
Yeah from others, not from each other.
See now here is the difference. What you have for August is ACTUALLY PiS whereas what you have listed for Irene is just what you think shouldn't have happened. PiS = Plot induced stupidity, none of what you listed is Irene being stupid unlike with August, so its hardly an argument.
yes august could most likely beat motherglare if he ds magic.
zeref and acno exist.
so it was still stated. Even if it was from another character.
Pis/asspulls.
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that wasnt Irene trump card tho. It was the strongest move she shown but unlike august she didn't need to kill herself in the process.
How do you know it wasn't her strongest move? She never used any other move stronger than Deus Sema. Go by feats pls
i never said it wasn't. i said it was the strongest move she shown but unlike august she didn't need to kill herself.
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He could take out the entire GMG dragon squad if he had DS magic.
Zeref is considered an immortal and I am really starting to doubt he is stronger then August given that he is currently sparring with base Natsu, something akin to what Jacob did. Acno is considered a dragon.
It was stated that Irene was the only one who isn't outclassed by August. Good on Irene I guess, that doesn't change the fact that August is above her, and I'd wager by a decent amount.
ok
not it wasn't. It was stated that both are the strongest individuals. While august is the strongest male Irene is the strongest female and that they both are peerless in skill It was also stated they she is the only person capable of standing up to him.
I never said it wasn't. I just said that even tho it is the strongest spell she shown it doesn't mean it's her trump card cause unlike august she doesn't need to kill herself or is even tired after using it. Melt is not better than deus sama.
Zeref did not no-sell IgNatsus attack, and now that he is getting damaged by base Natsu his durability is becoming more and more questionable.
Yeah I don't see that at all. If he can tank a fully powered attack (to the point that Gildartses arm broke) with zero damage from someone at Gildartses level then I see absolutely no reason why he couldn't take Irenes dragon hits. He'd need magic against her dragon magic and damage her dragon form, but in as far as physical attacks go I don't see a problem in him avoiding them or taking them (at least in moderation).
Zeref was able to almost immediately recover from Igneel-powered Natsu sending him through the side of a cliff]He still survived multiple attacks from Igneel's power, and Igneel's power is several times greater than Gildarts'. Base Natsu can take out a few Spriggans, so being mildly scratched by him isn't really an argument against Zeref's durability. By the same standards, we've seen August impaled by Brandish. Zeref might be scratched, but he's still in good fighting shape. August resorted to a suicide attack after taking just one attack from Gildarts.
He takes out spriggan with FDK moves. And those are the lesser spriggan at that. Those arent really the same standards because August was caught completely off guard and in his regular grandpa form to boot. I don't see how you can possibly label it as "resorted" when he was virtually unharmed by Gildartses attack, in fact he got even more jacked up on magical power afterwards. The kamikaze was full on plot convenience to get him out of the plot as quickly as possible and nothing to do with Gildarts, its pretty obvious that if he so wished, he could have beaten down on Gildarts with his bare hands at that very moment. Thats a very dishonest argument you're making there and I think you know it.
Neinhart was taken out in base mode, and Neinhart was enchanted by Irene to be beyond that of Brandish. I didn't find it obvious that August could have beaten down on Gildarts. If August could have easily dealt with Gildarts without resorting to his suicide attack, then it makes no sense why he didn't. It's not like wasting fodders, which is all that attack would have accomplished besides taking down Gildarts, was really worth dying for. In any case it doesn't matter. Zeref was able to take Igneel-powered Natsu sending him through a mountain. That attack had far greater AoE, and Igneel's power is far greater than Gildart's power, and Zeref recovered in a swift fashion. Zeref has the greater durability feat.
Minor scratches aren't really anything. The only time Zeref seemed to have his composure compromised was after Natsu went FDK mode. Up until then, he was still in good fighting shape. If you want to get super technical, technically Zeref took zero damage from the whole exchange because his immortality healed him up afterwards.