Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[razerxs]

Shudan! #1 - November 2nd
Cross Account #1 - October 4th.

A month earlier even though it came a week later. It's like it's already cancelled.

So it apparently bombed but came in 5th place?

Movie sales tend to drop ~50% after their premieres. It didn't even make a third of Gintama's opening.

 

[Tamil]

I didn't know it's a 50% drop...Well that sucks but I still want to see this.

On the bright side, Vento Aureo anime should be announced at the JoJo festival. I keep hearing its one of the more popular parts in Japan too so I want to see how it does in sales. Its also one of my personal fav. parts too

 

[Mr.Fujimaster]

Any predictions for the next toc?
Me: Bolsonaro's Life - New Series by Tite Kubo.
Harapeko no Marie will be canceled.

LoL
Dude, don't make this.
Not here.
Please.

 

[Tanzo]

Kimetsu no Yaiba PV, Norio Wakamoto-narrated version.

 

[crazybear1337]

Kimetsu no Yaiba PV, Norio Wakamoto-narrated version.

I like the voice of Wakamoto but in this PV I found it unsuitable, I prefer the voiceless one.

 

[Pietro]

Why we still haven't TOC?

 

[Newkerzy]

We're on break this week, if I recall. We should go back to normal nest week.

 

[vampire killer]

Lol hol horse is doing voice over. This is what happen when Dio is dead.

 

[HIGAN0]

1452075 1452075 Ｏ One Piece　86
*274229 *274229 ハ Haikyuu!! 27
**69741 **69741 ブ Black Clover 12
**57083 **57083 鬼 Kimetsu no Yaiba 07
**30080 **30080 ぼ We Never Learn　02
**28822 **28822 花 Hana Nochi Hare: HanaDan Next Season 07
**20264 **20264 ハ Haikyuu!! 27 (Limited Edition)
**16879 2573729 Ｏ One Piece　85
**16615 1184765 Ｈ Hunter x Hunter 34
**16171 **16171 フ Fire Punch 06
**15062 **15062 青 Ao no Flag 02
**15051 **15051 左 Samon-kun wa Summoner 10

 

[Tamil]

I thought it was going to be a new PV with voice acting included. This voice actor (narrator?) sounds obnoxious lol.

 

[Tanzo]

1452075 1452075 Ｏ One Piece　86
*274229 *274229 ハ Haikyuu!! 27
**69741 **69741 ブ Black Clover 12
**57083 **57083 鬼 Kimetsu no Yaiba 07
**30080 **30080 ぼ We Never Learn　02
**28822 **28822 花 Hana Nochi Hare: HanaDan Next Season 07
**20264 **20264 ハ Fire Punch 06
**16879 2573729 Ｏ One Piece　85
**16615 1184765 Ｈ Hunter x Hunter 34
**16171 **16171 フ One Piece Party 03
**15062 **15062 青 Ao no Flag 02
**15051 **15051 左 Kanata no Astra 04

Full sales of Haikyuu!! 27 (including Limited Edition) - 294,493
Source: http://www.geocities.jp/jump_manga/

 

[jagman1x3]

1452075 1452075 Ｏ One Piece　86
*274229 *274229 ハ Haikyuu!! 27
**69741 **69741 ブ Black Clover 12
**57083 **57083 鬼 Kimetsu no Yaiba 07
**30080 **30080 ぼ We Never Learn　02
**28822 **28822 花 Hana Nochi Hare: HanaDan Next Season 07
**20264 **20264 ハ Fire Punch 06
**16879 2573729 Ｏ One Piece　85
**16615 1184765 Ｈ Hunter x Hunter 34
**16171 **16171 フ One Piece Party 03
**15062 **15062 青 Ao no Flag 02
**15051 **15051 左 Kanata no Astra 04

Isn't that last one Samon?

 

[HIGAN0]

Isn't that last one Samon?

Yeah, My bad.....

 

[Leoat12]

30k in 3 days if I'm not mistaken? Great sales for the second volume, I think it is selling 50k+ in one week.
I will make a comparison with Nisekoi to see how well it is going.

 

[Kave]

30k in 3 days if I'm not mistaken? Great sales for the second volume, I think it is selling 50k+ in one week.
I will make a comparison with Nisekoi to see how well it is going.

│*45317 (5)│------│------│------│------┃*,*45,317 (**5)┃2012/05｜ニセコイ 1
│*73216 (5)│*94559│------│------│------┃*,*94,559 (*12)┃2012/07｜ニセコイ 2

│*16014 (3)│------│------│------│------┃*,*16,014 (**3)┃2017/06｜ぼくたちは勉強ができない 1
│*30080 (3)│------│------│------│------┃*,*30,080 (**3)┃2017/08｜ぼくたちは勉強ができない 2

 

[Leoat12]

Maybe the years made me forget how extraordinary was Nisekoi popularity at the beginning.
Assuming that "We Never Learn" has a linear increase through the days (which is not accurate, but for a demonstration...) we can divide 30080 by 3 and then multiply by 5 which gives us around 50k, it is not even close to Nisekoi volume 2, but we have to consider all the digital edition stuff, so it may be very close, who knows...

 

[iceemperor]

1452075 1452075 Ｏ One Piece　86
*274229 *274229 ハ Haikyuu!! 27
**69741 **69741 ブ Black Clover 12
**57083 **57083 鬼 Kimetsu no Yaiba 07
**30080 **30080 ぼ We Never Learn　02
**28822 **28822 花 Hana Nochi Hare: HanaDan Next Season 07
**20264 **20264 ハ Fire Punch 06
**16879 2573729 Ｏ One Piece　85
**16615 1184765 Ｈ Hunter x Hunter 34
**16171 **16171 フ One Piece Party 03
**15062 **15062 青 Ao no Flag 02
**15051 **15051 左 Samon-kun wa Summoner 10

Once again, this is not a good sign for a huge Black Clover boost starting in October. While its 3 day first week sales are slowly growing,

|*59814 (3)│113151│131749│------│------┃*,200,980 (171)┃2016/12｜ブラッククローバー 9
|*66723 (3)│121879│140385│------│------┃*,140,385 (*17)┃2017/03｜ブラッククローバー 10
|*69741 (3)│------│------│------│------┃*,*69,741 (**3)┃2017/08｜ブラッククローバー 12
Its still unable to break 100k in the first week despite already being at volume 12. For the amount of color pages, and pushing in general its gotten these past 2 years its really surprising to see how people are just not hooking onto it. The least that a series that is expected to become mainstay in Jump, especially a battle manga, is around 100k first week. In comparison, Kimetsu no Yaiba in the same 3 days is only around 8k lower and if its able to stay in the top 30 (due to all the Kodansha series released this week including AoT) , it might potentially reach 100k or close to 100k.

 

[Caiops]

Curious if the Black Clover anime fail to boost the series, then Jump will stop advertising so much Black Clover and move to something else(Neverland?).

The way they are doing now, its like Black Clover its in the TOP 4 of the most important series today, just behind OP,BNH and Haikyuu. I don't think Black Clover will be what Nanatsu no Taizan turned out to be after the anime, i think will reach Beelzebub level of sales and stop there.

 

[Leoat12]

They will certainly move their attention to The Promised Neverland at some point because it is clearly more popular, they are already doing that. They could be reluctant to go all out with TPN because of its possible short length, I don't think it will be the kind of series that lasts forever, it will be Assassination Classroom level of length.

Black Clover on the other hand is similar to Naruto in some ways, like we are tired of complaining, so they maybe see it as the perfect replacement for Naruto fandom. That's my impression, no idea if it is true.

 

[Koi Kage]

Curious if the Black Clover anime fail to boost the series, then Jump will stop advertising so much Black Clover and move to something else(Neverland?).

The way they are doing now, its like Black Clover its in the TOP 4 of the most important series today, just behind OP,BNH and Haikyuu. I don't think Black Clover will be what Nanatsu no Taizan turned out to be after the anime, i think will reach Beelzebub level of sales and stop there.

The reason I think they promote it the way they have is because they see that Black Clover has the potential to be a a pretty long running series within the magazine that could span multiple years similar to Naruto/Toriko/Gintama/Bleach/OP (I'm not saying that to readers its as good or bad as those series just using them as an example)and be a somewhat stable source of income with a steady increase every so often. As for why I think they don't push Neverland as much is because it's not set up to be a long series nor would it be a good idea, in my opinion, to try and extend it so why promote a series heavily if it could end very soon because of story and not from editors.