Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2017] - Discussion and TOC Talk

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It was like 5 named girls introduced in this new arc so far, the test with Shion is if she'll be a regular or like Karura who appears here and there. Kogarshi's harem unfortunately will get bigger but he's a better mc than Raku ever was so he can handle it
 

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How is this current arc not great? Everything that people have been clamoring for (development for side characters, longer fights, a threat, story progression, world building) is happening this arc. Shit Shigarakis development is amazing.
True, but it's just not as exciting. Maybe its the lack of focus on main characters? Deku, Kirishima and Aizawa are the only ones really in this arc, and Deku and Aizawa have had very small roles so far. Focusing on both new villains and new heroes at once and having them fight removes me emotionally from the events and I just cant get excited. Just me (although it seems not)?

Someone before mentioned the lack of actual villains, and now I'm getting excited at the thought of a jailbreak arc where the traitor takes action and reveals themelves.

1. Neverland: It's been pretty good, though the style of storytelling is completely different to what the series built for itself and strived off. I think it will do great with some more time.

2. Yuragi: Delinquents are always great, but she didn't really do it for me. As stupid as this sounds, I think Yuragi needs to introduce another male character with a decent role to give the series new perspective. Kogarashi alone with an ever increasing number of girls all falling for him is getting a bit much imo. Most of them are just obvious fodder at this point and need to be given value in the story outside of their relationship (lack there of) to Kogarashi.

3&4:
Robo: It had by far the most solid start of those 6 series, but it hasn't changed at all. Its still exactly how it was, which is good that it's consistent, but it has never been truly exciting. Its kinda bland and I thought I would enjoy this current match much more than I am.

Stone: Much much better than the first arc, but its still got issues. Am I the only one who feels it's too childish? It comes across as one of those cartoons you show to 10yr olds to get them interested in science. Its over-glorification of science is getting cringier by the week. And the sudden tone shift is jarring considering the first arc was about some psychotic teenager wanting to kill people in the apocalypse. Hopefully it finds some balance, I am both excited and worried to see where this goes. The potential is enormous, but it has yet to impress me so far,

What are peoples thoughts on Shudan?
I caught up a few days ago and have to say I'm enjoying it more than any of the other new series this year. Its typical Yokota with his focus on relationships, but that's exactly why I feel it works. It doesn't take itself seriously and isnt over the top, it's just there having a good time. Hopefully with HZ going, this can survive as long as Sesuji and give us something great again.
 

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I'm only up-to-date with 5 series in Jump at the moment. I'm a bit behind on Gintama, Yuragi, and HZ. The scans for Saiki haven't caught got close to Japan either.

MHA- I think I've expressed my opinion on current events enough, haha.

The Promised Neverland-
As I said before, I'm more invested in the series than I ever was. Glad to say that since once they escaped, I wasn't happy where it was going at first. I'm finally getting interested in the world, and the art is simply stunning.

Hunter x Hunter- I honestly can only get so excited in the current arc due to the fact that it could go back on hiatus at any moment. While there are times where I'm completely enthralled in the dialogue, and the seeing the ways the characters think, there are other times where I'm bored by the walls of text, and overexplanations.

Kimetsu no Yaiba- The 3 MCs are so lovable, and fun to watch. The current arc is capitalising on this by really amping up the comedy. The arc's villain so far is okay, but not amazing yet. I need to see more.

Black Clover- This tournament arc is really boring. I saw that people were excited about Noelle's development in the latest chapter, but it felt super rushed to me.
 

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Robo I more or less like, though I'm extremely behind on it. Dr. Stone I've been a little up and down on but I like the current arc. Neverland and Yaiba are both some of my favorite things in the magazine right now, esp. Yaiba everyone should read it. HxH current arc has been dragging for me a little so I figured I'd wait until the pace picks up and then marathon it. Black Clover tournament's been fun because I always like the manga best when it focuses on side characters.
 

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I thought I would enjoy the BC tournament arc a lot more than I am now. It seems like every round is going to follow the same order.
>X acts arrogant and underestimates Y
>Y team is "surprisingly" powerful
>Y team wins
I guess it's nice to see Noelle getting some development, but the execution in the recent chapter was so bland and shallow.
At this point, the only thing I'm looking forward to is more Zax panel time. It's amusing to see him mess with Asta and get in his head.
 

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What do you guys think it will be the next phase of BC's tournament? The first phase was a crystal destruction battle, but the 2nd...?
 

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What do you guys think it will be the next phase of BC's tournament? The first phase was a crystal destruction battle, but the 2nd...?
Not really the place for this, but I think hideout invasion could be the next phase.
 

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surprised this wasn't posted here yet

Hearing how seriously the mangaka took competition back in the day was interesting. Also surprised by how blunt the Editor in Chief was about the paper quality.
 

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I wonder if mangakas today consider themselves rivals, I would think not.
 

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I'm only up-to-date with 5 series in Jump at the moment. I'm a bit behind on Gintama, Yuragi, and HZ. The scans for Saiki haven't caught got close to Japan either.

MHA- I think I've expressed my opinion on current events enough, haha.

The Promised Neverland-
As I said before, I'm more invested in the series than I ever was. Glad to say that since once they escaped, I wasn't happy where it was going at first. I'm finally getting interested in the world, and the art is simply stunning.

Hunter x Hunter- I honestly can only get so excited in the current arc due to the fact that it could go back on hiatus at any moment. While there are times where I'm completely enthralled in the dialogue, and the seeing the ways the characters think, there are other times where I'm bored by the walls of text, and overexplanations.

Kimetsu no Yaiba- The 3 MCs are so lovable, and fun to watch. The current arc is capitalising on this by really amping up the comedy. The arc's villain so far is okay, but not amazing yet. I need to see more.

Black Clover- This tournament arc is really boring. I saw that people were excited about Noelle's development in the latest chapter, but it felt super rushed to me.
People that are "excited" about Noelle are clearly FT fans if you know what I mean haha.

EDIT: JESUS FUCKING CHRIST, the original One Piece colorspread showed in that video is BEYOND awesome looking it that way.
 
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I wonder if mangakas today consider themselves rivals, I would think not.
Yep, I don't see why most won't since it's the most competitive magazine. We've seen friendly rivals, such as Shimabu x Oda. I don't think all rivals are like the ones with Akimoto x Yudetamago x Takahashi and I hope people don't start assuming that. Even though this rivalry isn't representative, it's still very intriguing to learn about.
 

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Yep, I don't see why most won't since it's the most competitive magazine. We've seen friendly rivals, such as Shimabu x Oda. I don't think all rivals are like the ones with Akimoto x Yudetamago x Takahashi and I hope people don't start assuming that. Even though this rivalry isn't representative, it's still very intriguing to learn about.
I wouldnt even consider them 2 rivals. Kishi and Oda are rivals and I believe they acknowledged it during their joint interview.
 

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So a funny thing: Which mangakas (of the current lineup) do you think are rivals?
 

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So a funny thing: Which mangakas (of the current lineup) do you think are rivals?
Tabata and Tamura are the closest I can think of. In terms of friendly rivals. I'm not implying Hungry Marie is competition for Black Clover.
 

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I wouldnt even consider them 2 rivals. Kishi and Oda are rivals and I believe they acknowledged it during their joint interview.
Well it's clearly stated/implied in the Memories of Oda one shot that they are rivals. Oda called him a rival in a interview


Unless you're going to tell me that you know more than Oda about who should/shouldn't be considered a rival? Takeshi was super popular and never reached it's full potential in popularity since it had no anime and you know Shimabu got into that sex scandal. It was one of the pillars of WSJ at the time, along with One Piece/HxH.
 

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Curious, has any staff from Jump spoken about their content being leaked online, several days before their magazine goes on sale?

It seems they're not too bothered to take any action, which implies they're okay with what's going on right now?
 

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I wonder if mangakas today consider themselves rivals, I would think not.
Horikoshi did say that he was well acquainted with Tsukuda and Furudate but not to a point where they could be considered good friends and that now they're in fierce competition in the magazine so they might not be on that good terms. I think the case in that video is an exception rather than the norm that was instilled in the combo by the editor to bring out the best they possibly can. The downside however is that consistency and coherency are thrown out as Oda did mention that in Kinnikuman, characters would disappear and appear out of nowhere. The competitive atmosphere among mangaka is certainly helpful to making as many hits as Jump has created.
 

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I don't think we can compare the atmosphere from jump of the 80's and the current one despite the good rivals/friends discussion... As the Yudetamago duo said, there were lots of series that used to fight each other for the top... Not only Kochikame, Hokuto no Ken and Captain Tsubasa... Untill 85 we had besides the ones aforementioned (and not counting ring ni kakero that ended in 81):

Dragon Ball, City Hunter, High School! Kimengumi...

In 86 Saint Seiya started and well you know... Right after, Jojo...

Nowadays what we really have fighting for the top excluding One Piece that shouldn't even bein ranked and HxH that clearly is not: MHA, Neverland and Black Clover that are by no means what those series were in their time.

It's just sad
 

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I'm not sure what Toriko even has over One Piece for it to be considered a rivalry, but for sure they're best friends. Thats why I understand Kishimoto, because while One Piece was vastly more popular in Japan, Kishi won over the West (and you can make an argument for Naruto doing alot of things better than One Piece). I mean maybe its not that black and white, but that was just my thought process.
 
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