Games Mafia Game 58 - Umineko: How to play 13 - END GAME

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You ever think it possible the person who wrote vans name was killed before the action?
No that's impossible. If that person was killed before hitting Vand he would've gotten the Death Note instead of me. It can only be a townie prostitute or mafia escort who screwed that up.
 

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Me and Gry will be occupied with the DNs, so if there's still any det around, it should be wise to investigate us to help confirming your sanity, caus we definitely will come as guilty.
 

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Oh! Oh! I can answer that! :question

Since Gry has the Note, that would mean one of his mafia targeted whoever wrote my name, who then lost the priority coin flip to kill me, and Gry was randomized as the member of his mafia to receive the Note. Which possibly means that multiple Notes can only end up in the hands of the same mafia member, so that two members of the same mafia can't use a Note each on the same night.

How's that for an explanation? :edu
It's actually kind of funny how completely wrong you are about everything. But since you already confessed to being mafia, let me thank you for still being a great townie and helping us kill the Mafia Detective, what a great play :heh
 

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It's almost time for me to go to bed guys.
Sorry for not being active today, but something came up.
I'd still go for Van though.
 

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Still doesnt not explain why spirit is alive...really what are the chance someone blocked his killer...
Whats messing me up is three kills last nite but only two on nite 1....
I believe theres only 1 true note that kills....period.
But Demonspeed died on Night 1. His name was written in the same notebook mine is.
 

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So bel,monkey,elusia,desin,griff,spirit
Me and Gry will be occupied with the DNs, so if there's still any det around, it should be wise to investigate us to help confirming your sanity, caus we definitely will come as guilty.
What good is that if you are guaranteed to be guilty....
Only thing a person can deduct from yourclaim is the note is fake if you turn up innocent....how im going about it,sorry x/
 

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@MarmaladeSky as for now I agree with some of your thoughts, but out of the ones here I trust Lambu the most while I also think syx is clean, he's ostly likely playing from shadows. Xnut claims det/doc/spy, I don't think he's lying based on the style he played last games when he had similar roles a she pointed out.

Uncle nut doesn't trust me and I didn't trust him at the start either, but I don't have the feeling he's mafia. If I live enough to pass my note on, I'd hand it to him, Lambu or Gry. What worries me most now is whom we should kill this night.


Yes, we had three dets and one investigator in DBZ game.
You could give it to me, but then I start day 5 with 4 penalty votes once I give it away a night later in night 4. Not sure how risky that is depending on the remaining mafia number, but it's a possible option you could consider. I could also confirm that you spoke the truth about your Note and the names that were written in it.

@Gry you mentioned how the DN that killed Orgz was most likely the Mafia death note, why do you think that it's in your hand now?
Because I have the Note with me right now, and it says Orgz and EmptySoul as the names written in it. So this is the Note that killed them.
 

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I don't understand what you're saying at all. I messed something up? And how do I not respect my contracts exactly? Not lynching the other when you're an obvious mafia wasn't part of any deal.
You said you'd have tried to keep me alive for longer than I usually last if you were mafia. Not reaching N3 isn't exactly an outlier in my statistics, you know :hmph

But you're pulling the same thing again :XD Sometimes I wish we were playing this game in one room irl, I really wonder if you could say that to everyone with a straight face.
That time, I tried to drag gnut down with me after I was betrayed out of the blue by pretending we were teammates. This time, I'm telling everyone I'm mafia and that you're going to be dead by tomorrow morning no matter what. How's that the same thing? :oh (that would be my straight face, by the way)

It's actually kind of funny how completely wrong you are about everything. But since you already confessed to being mafia, let me thank you for still being a great townie and helping us kill the Mafia Detective, what a great play :heh
Right? I'm starting to take pride in my seemingly infallible ability to sniff out Mafia Dets right away. :hee
 

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But Demonspeed died on Night 1. His name was written in the same notebook mine is.
Exactly...why you think the rules say one color is truth and the others half truths....
2 notes are fake or only work 1/2 the time....idk
But only 1 has a 100% kill ratio....take it how you want it....but its a good explaination for nite 1.
Orgz was killed by a townie using the note....
Demon was trolled by niichan....and van or possibly syx.
The only 2 i can think of that would take pleasure in it....

Gry has the real note....where orgz and empty died....

Come on..
What are the chance you and van were protected....
Besides,rules say if name is written you die....explain otherwise?
 

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Still doesnt not explain why spirit is alive...really what are the chance someone blocked his killer...
Whats messing me up is three kills last nite but only two on nite 1....
I believe theres only 1 true note that kills....period.
It may be unlikely but he's alive, so someone either blocked his killer or protected him. And I heavily doubt that only 1 Note is true. Why? Note D has Demonspeed and Vandred written in it. Note O has Orgz and Empty written in it. Asia's Note W has Spirit and Kato written in it. In all 3 of the Notes one or more of the written people died, the same night they were written in. This lets me conclude that they are all very lethal.

We will find out tonight, but it'd be an even bigger coincidence that people died in the same night in the other 2 "fake" Notes.
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Hm... I blocked zimby N1 and Vand N2. But there's the possibility spirit wa sprotected by a doc back then.

If there was only one DN killing, then what explain Orgz and Demon names written and they dying at the same night?
Blocked? Did you reveal Prostitute and I missed that?

I wonder how much blocking zimb/Vand helped. But maybe zimb being blocked explains some of the lacking deaths? Maybe Zimb had Note W at the start.
 

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Exactly...why you think the rules say one color is truth and the others half truths....
2 notes are fake or only work 1/2 the time....idk
But only 1 has a 100% kill ratio....take it how you want it....but its a good explaination for nite 1.
Orgz was killed by a townie using the note....
Demon was trolled by niichan....and van or possibly syx.
The only 2 i can think of that would take pleasure in it....

Gry has the real note....where orgz and empty died....

Come on..
What are the chance you and van were protected....
Besides,rules say if name is written you die....explain otherwise?
I was under the impression that blue meant flat out lie while pink meant partial truth.
 

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Yep, tradition :XD
Also gnut, if the three notes didn't work, just how Demon and orgz died on the same night by sheer coincidence? Their names are clearly written in the note, and they were the first from the respective notes. I think all three of them work.
Do you even need to play in the "beginners mafia", you're reaching all the same conclusions I did :XD
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I would think so...say you are bulletproof.
You cant target anyone....only write their name down.
If the note is false as i pressume....nothing.
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Doesnt make you a lie in this case...just holding a prop xD
That could be interesting. Maybe I should give away one of my Notes to a passive role player to test that theory? Were you active or passive gnut?
 

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Niichan is watching...his nafia buddies are here :lmao
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Do you even need to play in the "beginners mafia", you're reaching all the same conclusions I did :XD
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That could be interesting. Maybe I should give away one of my Notes to a passive role player to test that theory? Were you active or passive gnut?
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Spirit makes a good point.
One is half truth...one is a lie
So we have 1 true,one that works half the time and the last is a phony?
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And niichan is gone:lmao
 

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I think now is the time to start focusing on the truths a bit more. Since somewhere it is said that there is a way to upgrade the note?
 

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So it's a reverse sane,naive,insane scenario xD
 

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I wonder how much blocking zimb/Vand helped. But maybe zimb being blocked explains some of the lacking deaths? Maybe Zimb had Note W at the start.
That's why I've said I probably wouldn't know how to use my role properly, but I do suspect zimby for that, yes.
 
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