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Which of these magic types do you want in the rating?


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What pisses me off about Jerza is the fact that Jellal killed friggin Simon right in front of her and Erza doesnt give a shit anymore. Oh, so he loses his memories and its all good? Erza tells Jellal that if he doesnt remember the people he's hurt, she'll stab him through the heart, yet when he admits he doesnt immediately after, she not only doesnt kill the little shit, but tells him not to sacrifice himself and tries to save him? Why? And when Midnight actually calls Jellal out on all the evil things he's done, Erza even has the gall to say that "she still sees the goodness in him", disgusting.

Erza shouldve been what Kagura was, desperate to kill Jellal the moment she saw him. But no, instead she pines for the bastard throughout the whole arc, and when it ends she doesnt want Jellal to pay for his crimes, she wants him to stay with her and be her boyfriend or whatever. Of course team Natsu were trying to get him free as well, so screw those assholes too, but at least Jellal didnt kill any of their friends.
Erza disgraced Simon's memory the moment she didnt let Jellal sacrifice himself, everything after that is just her taking a shit on his grave. Honestly every time i see a shipping moment between these two i start wishing Kagura would show up and butcher both of them.
man this is fairytail what can you expect?
 

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moment between these two i start wishing Kagura would show up and butcher both of them.

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.............This Kagura?




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I’m sorry @Seven777 I couldn’t help it..... that’s the first thing I thought of at that sentence.
 

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What pisses me off about Jerza is the fact that Jellal killed friggin Simon right in front of her and Erza doesnt give a shit anymore.
Jellal who was being possessed by Ultear and not in control of his actions at the time. A normal Jellal would never kill anyone who wasn't his enemy, him not killing the Oracion Seis despite them being out to kill him is a perfect indicator of that.
Simon jumped in the way to take an attack that was aimed at Erza. How is that Jellal killing him willingly? Plus she admitted in the Kagura fight that she's responsible for Simon's death, so that's not something you can solely blame Jellal for:

Ultear even admitted that she's the one who was controlling Jellal the whole time in the Tower of Heaven. How do you expect Erza to be angry at him after that? It's pretty much an event that was outside of hers and Jellal's control after all.
 

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Wait....


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I’m sorry @Seven777 I couldn’t help it..... that’s the first thing I thought of at that sentence.
Ha, yeah, i really was hoping that Kagura would slit his throat that chapter, but this is Fairy Tail afterall.
Jellal who was being possessed by Ultear and not in control of his actions at the time. A normal Jellal would never kill anyone who wasn't his enemy, him not killing the Oracion Seis despite them being out to kill him is a perfect indicator of that.
Simon jumped in the way to take an attack that was aimed at Erza. How is that Jellal killing him willingly? Plus she admitted in the Kagura fight that she's responsible for Simon's death, so that's not something you can solely blame Jellal for:

Ultear even admitted that she's the one who was controlling Jellal the whole time in the Tower of Heaven. How do you expect Erza to be angry at him after that? It's pretty much an event that was outside of hers and Jellal's control after all.
Irrelevant, everything you mentioned here is irrelevant, because Erza didnt know any of this. In the Orecion Seis arc all Erza knew was that Jellal killed her friend, and instead of trying to slaughter him, she saved him. Erza didnt find out about Ultear's manipulation until the very end of the GMG arc and by that point Erza had already forgiven him. This bitch even had the nerve to tell Miliana not to seek revenge on Jellal simply because she wouldnt get anything out of it, can you believe that? It's like justice for Simon means literally nothing to her.
So yeah, the whole Jerza shit is basically one big turd taken on Simon's grave and it makes me sick. The only ship comparable to this is Zervis.
 

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Gold level post my man. Can't stop laughing because it's true.
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Can't believe the top 2 is between "Your Dad beat me up, enslaved people, and killed my friend" and "Your Dad beat me up, tortured me, and crucified me in front of everyone".

Like I can see the girls' being fine with being acquaintances or friends at best, but no way (in reality) would they ever date someone who has done that to them. You have to have some serious mental problems to stick with a person who has abused you emotionally and physically to that extent.

These relationships should've never been romanticized.
 
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@Emperor Spriggan it's not like Ultear was controlling every action Jellal was doing she just insert in his head false dream that he was chasing, after all, that was done was done by Jellal himself << That's just my take on that whole thing..

Jellal is as responsible for every life lost in ToH just like Ultear..

@Jko this may be one of the first times where I agree with... The more Levy was showing affection towards Gajeel the less respect I had for her as a character tbh..
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Ultear even admitted that she's the one who was controlling Jellal the whole time in the Tower of Heaven. How do you expect Erza to be angry at him after that? It's pretty much an event that was outside of hers and Jellal's control after all.

For me, it means nothing she was going to sacrifice herself so she wanted to take as much burden away from Jellal as she could ( and take Millianna hate also )..

She never shows to have magic to manipulate someone actions all she shows to have illusion magic and being very good at deceiving and lie to people this is what she used on Jellal lie and deception nothing more or less...


At the end, you are aware that I like Jellal but I have much different view on the aspect of his " Innocence "
 
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Irrelevant, everything you mentioned here is irrelevant, because Erza didnt know any of this. In the Orecion Seis arc all Erza knew was that Jellal killed her friend, and instead of trying to slaughter him, she saved him. Erza didnt find out about Ultear's manipulation until the very end of the GMG arc and by that point Erza had already forgiven him. This bitch even had the nerve to tell Miliana not to seek revenge on Jellal simply because she wouldnt get anything out of it, can you believe that? It's like justice for Simon means literally nothing to her.
So yeah, the whole Jerza shit is basically one big turd taken on Simon's grave and it makes me sick. The only ship comparable to this is Zervis.

So Erza didn't know that Simon jumped in the way of Altaris to take the attack for her? That spell was initially meant to kill Natsu, and she was about to sacrifice herself to protect him, then Simon was the one who took the final attack for her. You're acting like Jellal killed Simon intentionally when it was unintentional as he wasn't even the initial target.
Justice for Simon.......Jellal already paid for that in full by being in prison :fail And practically becoming a renegade till the end of the series, it's not like he suddenly joined Fairy Tail after crucifying three of their members and became butt buddies with everyone else :derp
Why would she slaughter Jellal when he's the ONE who saved her from the Tower in the end? No, seriously, explain that logic to me. Erza is supposed to believe that her childhood friend who became a cold blooded killer is going to bother saving her from her death? How can she even kill him after that? The reason she even prevented Jellal from sacrificing himself was because it's a cheap way of not owning up to what you did. Plus earlier on Natsu had told her to live for her friends, how can she watch another of her friends sacrifice themselves for her and do nothing?
@Emperor Spriggan it's not like Ultear was controlling every action Jellal was doing she just insert in his head false dream that he was chasing, after all, that was done was done by Jellal himself << That's just my take on that whole thing..

Jellal is as responsible for every life lost in ToH just like Ultear..
Oh, I don't deny that, my point with the Ultear manipulation is that Jellal wasn't himself and we know normal Jellal can't kill anyone.:p

For me, it means nothing she was going to sacrifice herself so she wanted to take as much burden away from Jellal as she could ( and take Millianna hate also )..

She never shows to have magic to manipulate someone actions all she shows to have illusion magic and being very good at deceiving and lie to people this is what she used on Jellal lie and deception nothing more or less...


At the end, you are aware that I like Jellal but I have much different view on the aspect of his " Innocence "

Yeah, it was obvious when she told Millianna everything then she just wanted to clear Jellal's name as she was intending on casting Lost Ages minutes later which would kill her.
This was mostly to clear up the misunderstanding with Millianna (and Kagura) since she was watching nearby.
 

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So Erza didn't know that Simon jumped in the way of Altaris to take the attack for her? That spell was initially meant to kill Natsu, and she was about to sacrifice herself to protect him, then Simon was the one who took the final attack for her. You're acting like Jellal killed Simon intentionally when it was unintentional as he wasn't even the initial target.
How is Jellal's actual target being Natsu rather than Simon supposed to paint Jellal in a better light from Erza's perspective? Your acting like this makes things better. If anything it makes things worse, because not only did Jellal kill Erza's dear friend AND LAUGH ABOUT IT AFTERWARDS, but he also killed the guy who saved her life and the life of her beloved Natsu.
Justice for Simon.......Jellal already paid for that in full by being in prison :fail And practically becoming a renegade till the end of the series, it's not like he suddenly joined Fairy Tail after crucifying three of their members and became butt buddies with everyone else :derp
Paid in full? What? Seriously? I cant even... :twitch Since when is a 7 year stay in prison(probably not even that since Ultear got him out) fair payment for killing a man?
Fair payment is an exchange of equal value, like what Gajeel did. After beating the shit out of a few of members of Fairy Tail, he let them beat the shit out him back, plus Laxus as well for good measure, now thats fair payment.
Fair payment for Jellal IS DEATH, or something equally horrifying. If Jellal sacrificed himself and died saving Erza, then that'd be fair payment and i'd give Jerza my full support.
Why would she slaughter Jellal when he's the ONE who saved her from the Tower in the end? No, seriously, explain that logic to me. Erza is supposed to believe that her childhood friend who became a cold blooded killer is going to bother saving her from her death? How can she even kill him after that? The reason she even prevented Jellal from sacrificing himself was because it's a cheap way of not owning up to what you did. Plus earlier on Natsu had told her to live for her friends, how can she watch another of her friends sacrifice themselves for her and do nothing?
Because he killed her friend?? Should be obvious. Saving her life should count for nothing.
Besides, she obviously knows Jellal is responsible for his action since she initially blames him for Simons death when they met again, which i liked. But slowly as the OS arc went by not only did Erza stop being pissed at Jellal for killing her friend, she starts comforting him like an old friend. By that point, Jellal should no longer have been her friend, and she should have had no qualms letting him die, the fact that she still considers him one is in itself, despicable.
 

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So Erza didn't know that Simon jumped in the way of Altaris to take the attack for her? That spell was initially meant to kill Natsu, and she was about to sacrifice herself to protect him, then Simon was the one who took the final attack for her. You're acting like Jellal killed Simon intentionally when it was unintentional as he wasn't even the initial target.
Justice for Simon.......Jellal already paid for that in full by being in prison :fail And practically becoming a renegade till the end of the series, it's not like he suddenly joined Fairy Tail after crucifying three of their members and became butt buddies with everyone else :derp
Why would she slaughter Jellal when he's the ONE who saved her from the Tower in the end? No, seriously, explain that logic to me. Erza is supposed to believe that her childhood friend who became a cold blooded killer is going to bother saving her from her death? How can she even kill him after that? The reason she even prevented Jellal from sacrificing himself was because it's a cheap way of not owning up to what you did. Plus earlier on Natsu had told her to live for her friends, how can she watch another of her friends sacrifice themselves for her and do nothing?

Oh, I don't deny that, my point with the Ultear manipulation is that Jellal wasn't himself and we know normal Jellal can't kill anyone.:p


Yeah, it was obvious when she told Millianna everything then she just wanted to clear Jellal's name as she was intending on casting Lost Ages minutes later which would kill her.
This was mostly to clear up the misunderstanding with Millianna (and Kagura) since she was watching nearby.
Jellal seems like a pussy who would need Erza to kill spiders/flies for him. He was only on a villain because he wanted to be a big boy who could show to world how badass he was but we all know Ultear was using that to make him think he was in power so she could play the innocent damsel card.

Jerza works because they fit personality wise. Erza acts a little more feminine but she doesn’t act like a doormat. We all know she wears the pants in the relationship and Jellal is her bitch, which he enjoys.
 

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It all comes down to this...




















Who goes down in rate history as the winner with the lowest average ever?
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I just had to make a mention of it.
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#2



Gajeel and Levy (Gajevy)
Score: 7,400


Highest score:
11 x 2 (@Seven777, @Takuan), 10 x 9 (@First Devilslayer, @Tirl, @Lenny, @EmptySoul, @Elusia, @Raijin 雷神, @Raven, @Axiomus, @BluePegasus)
Lowest score: 1 x 3 (@Nemispelled, @kira, @PluePegasus)
My score: 10/10

Oh well, who would’ve thought it would come down to this? They once were enemies – not in a rivalry way, but a true brutal way. Gajeel has done some horrendous things to Levy, like attaching her to a tree and stamping the guild logo of Phantom Lotd on her stomach. Oop!

After Gajeel joined Fairy Tail, Levy didn’t feel very good about it, but all this changed after they became partners for the S-Class Trial at Tenrou Island. The Iron Dragon Slayer saved her from Grimoire Heart members, before making a striking remark.

"It is really hard looking for someone so small, so don't leave my side please."



Throughout the years, Levy has shown to care a lot about Redfox – she takes care of him and tries her best to prevent him from doing dumb stuff. On the other side, Gajeel is ready to give up his life (!) for Levy as seen in the final arc.

For now, let’s take a look at the comment section for the second-last time.

The “Gajeel should have stayed dead”-club
MLG Bradman said:
tbh I’m being mega-biased here, still salty over Bradman
Jko said:
Never saw the hype of this relationship tbh. Kind of weird they started getting closer after what he did to her. The fake death only made it worse.
The “Romance in Fairy Tail is actually a thing”-club
Tirl said:
Best canon love pair, had more growth
Emperor Spriggan said:
have..never really cared for this ship, or any of the characters in it, but the Bradman stuff was seriously beautiful, it's part of why the Bradman fight is in my top 5 fights in the final arc
Takuan said:
The best ship imo. They are cute together, are legit in love, and contrary to other top tier ships, they actually porked in the end.
The “nah mate she’s mine”-club
kira said:
Levy is mine too :hmph
So where are they now? Parents incoming.

Check out: the manga







Have fun with #1! Now enjoy this picture that’s completely out of place in December.

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@Elusia said:

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@Lenny said:

My OTP. I have rewatched FT several times, and Jellal’s arrest in episode 68 never fails to make me cry.​

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@Jko said:

It would've better if they spent more time together instead of Jellal spontaneously saving Erza, and Erza stopped acting like schoolgirl when she saw him.​

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@Emperor Spriggan said:

I wasnt a huge fan of this in the beginning due to primarily shipping Natsu x Erza and thinking Jellal was in the way, but the GMG really made me warm up to them. Plus they got some really good moments in the last arc with Neinhart and Acnologia stuff​

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@Takuan said:

My personal favourite ship. I didn't place them first because, i mean, JELLAL DO SOMETHING ALREADY jeez.​

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#1
Jellal Fernandes and Erza Scarlet​

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Highest Score: 11 x 4(@Lenny, @EmptySoul, @Elusia, @Gryffindor)
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Since Nalu and Jerza are the two most fairy tale like to me,
I am also going to write this post as a story.

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Once upon a time, there lived a beautiful Dragon Queen who had a baby....​

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But because of circumstances beyond her control, she had to give that daughter up.​




Leaving her soon after birth at a village where the girl grew in happiness until tragedy struck and the village was attacked by zealots of dark cult, which enslaved all the children.



And where the girl saw the dark side of humanity.



But she also saw the light. There she met a boy, kind and gentle Jellal. He decided to give her the surname "Scarlet" after her scarlet hair so they would never forget it. Despite the harsh conditions of her enslavement and labor, Erza became close friends with the other children.​

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The kids eventually planned to escape. They were unfortunately caught by the guards, who decided to send the escape's mastermind to the tower's disciplinary chamber, while the rest would be deprived of food for three days. Seeing how fearful Shô was, Erza prepared to take the blame herself, but Jellal announced himself as the mastermind instead. However, the guards reasoned that Erza was the one responsible and sent her to the disciplinary chamber, where she was tortured to the brink of death and lost her right eye. Jellal rescued her, but was captured soon after. Finally fed up with their torment, Erza staged a revolt against their captors so they could escape and save Jellal​


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But the boy she knew and loved could not be saved.
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Jellal was put under a spell - the kind and compassionate boy she knew him to be was suddenly twisted and violent. He had been possessed by what he claimed to be the spirit of Zeref, and decided that the only way for them to attain true freedom was to complete the Tower of Heaven and revive Zeref. Erza refused to help him, prompting Jellal to cast her out of the tower by herself, only letting her live because she helped take care of all the guards who would have opposed him. Before letting her escape, Jellal told Erza to keep the Tower of Heaven a secret from the government, as well as to never return to the tower, threatening to destroy the tower and kill everyone in it, including their friends, if she disobeyed.
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He exiled Erza from the island and took control of the construction of the Tower of Heaven in order to resurrect Zeref, and thus create a world of "true freedom". He bombed the ship that was supposed to take the slaves off the island, and told them afterward that it was Erza's doing, as she had gone insane with her newfound Magic Powers. Believing that she had truly escaped on her own and thus betrayed them, the slaves helped him build the tower for the next eight years as a way of showing their gratitude for saving them from certain death.



While growing up, Jellal was taken under the tutelage of the Oración Seis leader Brain, cultivated to be a protegee and eventually creating an illusion that infiltrated the Wizard Council.​

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Years later they met again.

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He wanted her to be his sacrificial lamb for his dreams. It has to be her.​



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Erza wanted to kill him and herself in the process.
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But it was all according to his plan... He knew what she would do. Jellal was counting on that indomitable spirit, so full of love, to fall right into his trap.​




Everything had been for this moment, to revive Zeref,​

(Even though Zeref was really alive, of course)



And even after Jellal was defeated by Natsu and thought dead, Erza told Lucy that she thought Jellal was the one that saved Erza and Natsu from the tower by infusing with the tower himself.



Then Jellal returned... ​

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No he didn’t return like that.​

This is a shonen fairy tale not shojo.....​

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Oh wait..... maybe it is?​




He lost his memory but his only memory was her...


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They were together again, but everything wanted to tear them apart.




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But in the end, they were still separated.
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So while Nalu might be the ship that wants to be together forever. Jerza is the ship that always symbolizes longing and that wish to see the other out though they might not see each other, they will always find each other. In Erza vs Azuma when Jellal was tortured in prison, the two shared a mutual vibe. ​

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The Grand Magic games had the two reunited again.​

The two reunited to fight along side each other as the main badass couple of fairy tail.​

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The two finally had some fun at a water part.​

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Wait didn't Natsu do the same thing to Lucy at one point and everyone freaked? ​

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They almost kissed.... Or did they? This has long been debated by the fandom, but long before Zervis taught us how to kiss could lead to death and pregnancy, Jellal and Erza had their moonlight, shadow kiss. ​

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He saved her (And I don't see why this is a bad thing).​

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And then this scene....​

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Ok..... that didn't really happen but it was totally implied...​

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When she was made small, she thought he may not be interested in her again.​

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He trusts in her to be the light to his darkness. The strength to his weakness.​

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And in the timeskip, she learned his magic as she was working for CS.​

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She gets flustered over how he sees her, just like a normal girl. He makes her normal. Not a monster that has to be strong and put up a front before everyone. She can be just like Levy, Juvia, or Lucy. ​

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And he fights for her. Jellal wants to protect Erza.​


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Because this is what love is...​

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But will they ever be together?​

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But she also saw the light. There she met a boy, kind and gentle Jellal. He decided to give her the surname "Scarlet" after her scarlet hair so they would never forget it.

He wanted her to be his sacrificial lamb for his dreams. It has to be her.​
Nope it could be anyone with WS magic power level Jellal would be as satisfied the same with Jura in that moment :kappa:whistle
 

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Next time I'm going to hand out 1s to stop the trolls. Because crap like this get put at the top otherwise.

I hope no one here or whoever read the manga never ever gets into a relationship like either of these two. It would be horrible.

This rate was definetely a fail of fails. Most of the top 10 is horrendous.

@BluePegasus and @Crescent_jinxgrace Love the way you guys did your posts. They were very funny (especially @BluePegasus doing a play by play of Quotes), and very engaging reads.

All in all it was fun and spiced up the FT section. For that I thank the Hosts.
 

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Ooooh, so here's top 3! :D
First, Alzack and Bisca - totally neutral about them. They are canon of canons, but totally irrelevant to the story. Asuka is cute tho :zomg
Now, I don't mind Jerza winning this, I like this ship, becasue except for last scenes with them (you know, in the BP ship) and filler, I don't recall any fanservis scenes between them; there were only subtle signs, that they share feelings for each other, but can't overcome their common harsh past - quite mature for FT standards :) It would be better, if Mashima let Jellal wear trousers tho.
Personally, Gajevy is higher in my ranking, but it's runner up, so I'm satisfied. It may give vibes of Stockholm syndrome, but I see it more as proof of change, that happened in Gajeel. If Levy forgave him, what he did to her and fell for him, then he can't be such complete jerk. Besides, we girls like bad boys :fan

So this is it! Thank you everyone, who participated and commented here in this thread and as always, huge thanks for our hosts: @Crescent_jinxgrace, @BluePegasus, @Emperor Spriggan and @Gryffindor - thank you all for your hard work! :worship How many rankings do you guys still have in stock? :teehee
 

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1) Jellal and Erza-7.683333333
2) Gajeel and Levy-7.4
3)Alzack and Bisca-7.15
4)Sting and Rogue-7.05
5)Brandish and DiMaria-6.816666667
6)Elfman and Evergreen-6.75
7)Gray and Ultear-6.7
8)Gray and Lucy-6.466666667
9)Mirajane and Laxus-6.45
10)Wendy and Sherria-6.366666667
11) Kyoka and Seilah-6.35
12) Lucy and Loke-6.333333333
13)Gray and Juvia-6.283333333
14)Natsu and Lucy-6.233333333
15)Erik and Kinana-6.116666667
16)Scorpio and Aquarius-5.6
17)Jellal and Ultear-5.483333333
18)Gray and Natsu-5.466666667
19)Erza and Kagura-5.383333333
20)Zeref and Mavis-5.35
21)Sting and Yukino-5.183333333
22)Freed and Laxus-5.15
23)Makarov and Porlyusica-4.95
24)Hibiki and Jenny-4.9
25)Rogue and Minerva-4.883333333
26)Lyon and Meredy-4.866666667
27)Ichiya and Anna-4.85
28)Kagura and Millianna-4.833333333
29)Ren and Sherry-4.75
30)Natsu and Lisanna-4.65
31)Gray and Mirajane-4.583333333
32)Gray and Erza-4.533333333
33)Laxus and Cana-4.35
34) Natsu and Erza-4.116666667
35)Hibiki and Cana-3.316666667
36)Brandish and Laxus-3.05
37)Jellal and Hisui-2.766666667


Before I end this rate officially, I just want to thank everyone who took part in it. It was tamer than all the others so far (Possibly the one with the least number of comments), but it was still interesting to tackle something other than good old power rankings. After all:


Thank you to everyone who voted, and even to those who didn't, the discussion in this thread has been incredibly interesting and outright entertaining. Plus of course the obligatory salt and the difference between facts and opinions :derp
I'd also like to extend my thanks to my felllow hosts @BluePegasus, @Crescent_jinxgrace and @Gryffindor @MLG Bradman couldn't be with us this time, but his injury is almost healed up so he should make a return to the field soon :wtf
Thank you to @Brandish and @DiMaria Yesta as well for participating as mods of the section.
I hope everyone enjoyed that the rate, as now....
How many rankings do you guys still have in stock? :teehee


.........Not :derp






EARTHLAND MAGIC RATE-THE ULTIMATE MAGIC RANKING

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Finally I will be participate after being late in the previous one

@Seven777 it is a Japanese custom to give a sinner second chance in life.See how Vageta has been given a chance to lead a happy and loving life with Bulma after having killed millions of living beings in various planets,much more than Jellal ever did.


Next time I'm going to hand out 1s to stop the trolls. Because crap like this get put at the top otherwise.

I hope no one here or whoever read the manga never ever gets into a relationship like either of these two. It would be horrible.

This rate was definetely a fail of fails. Most of the top 10 is horrendous.

@BluePegasus and @Crescent_jinxgrace Love the way you guys did your posts. They were very funny (especially @BluePegasus doing a play by play of Quotes), and very engaging reads.

All in all it was fun and spiced up the FT section. For that I thank the Hosts.
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Cant say i didnt expect Jerza to win, but its still pisses me off. Ever since i saw the scene where Jellal gets turned over to the cops in the Orecion Seis arc i've hated Jerza. I mean fair enough on Jura and the rest of them wanting Jellal to have a second chance, he hasnt hurt them and he helped them out. But Erza? Natsu? These two watched an innocent man die at his hands, a friend, and they're acting like this piece of shit deserves to be free? Just thinking about it makes me want to vomit.
@Seven777 it is a Japanese custom to give a sinner second chance in life.See how Vageta has been given a chance to lead a happy and loving life with Bulma after having killed millions of living beings in various planets,much more than Jellal ever did.
I know, and I dont have a problem with sinners going unpunished(not in fiction anyway). I have a problem with people forgiving those sinners, because the only person who has the right to forgive a murderer is the person who got murdered. Friends, extended family, whatever, all have an obligation to their lost loved ones to hate the piece of shit that killed them. They dont necessarily need to seek revenge, but they should at the very least despise the person responsible. They shouldnt be trying to save their bloody lives or friggin comforting them, which is what pisses me off about Jerza. If Jellal was trying to get with Mirajane or whatever i wouldnt give a shit, because Mira has no obligation to hate Jellal, but Erza in this situation, betrayed her friendship to Simon by forgiving Jellal, by treating him as more than sub-human garbage, by telling him he should live instead of sacrificing himself.

Simon loved Erza, and he gave up his life to protect her. But right now Erza is pretty much saying "Hahaha, you thought you had a chance with me you dumb fuck? I care so little about you and our friendship that im actually gonna make the guy who killed you my man, suck on that retard".

Vegeta i dont give a shit about anymore because Yamcha and Tien dont give a shit about being killed by his lackey anymore(plus they're alive). The Z warriors dont know any of the other people Vegeta has killed, so they dont need to be pissed about it..
 
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