Games Mafia Game 65 - Ao no Exoricist Edition - End Game

Asako · Jul 13, 2018

Role list:
GrySun>>>>Paranoid Spy
Seraph>>>>Sane Apprentice
JamesRye>>>>Vengeful Townie
Demonspeed>>>>Naive Doctor
Crescent Jinx>>>>Insane Apprentice
Takuan>>>Mafia Pirate
Belserion>>>>Serial Killer
Holt>>>>Sane Detective
Erinyes>>>>Pirate
SonOfDaws>>>>Hider
MarmaladeSky>>>>Mafia Escort
Vandred>>>>Freeman
Lambu>>>>Insane Doctor
Shinobi>>>>Sane Doctor
Zasz>>>>Mafia Poisoner
TSPanda>>>>Prostitute
goodboy_lawlett>>>Insane Detective
Kato756>>>>Unskilled Mafia Member
Gryffindor>>>>Sickly Townie
Finalbeta>>>Mafia Detective

End of D1 / Start of N1
End of N1 / Start of D2
End of D2 / Start of N2
End of N2 / Start of D3
End of D3 / Start of N3
D4 SKIPPED / Start of N4
End of N4/Start of D5
End of D5/Start of N5
End of N5/Start of D6
End of D6/END GAME

Lady pompom · Jul 21, 2018

Okay, time for the action list:

Action List

DAY 1
James lynched -Take down Grysun

NIGHT 1 ACTIONS
Mafia Killing- zasz poisons lambu
Blocking-Marmalade blocks Demonspeed
Investigating-Finalbeta investigates TSPanda>>>success>>> TSPanda's role is ‘Prostitute’
Pirate Takuan- no action
Kato -no action

Panda - block crescent>>> succeeds
Demon - protect zasz >>>> get blocked by marmalade
Shinobi>>> protect Zasz
Lambu only when protecting>>>>>>flips coin>>>Protects Vandred
Goodboy_lawlett - investigate kato >>>> innocent
Holt - investigate >>>> no action
SonofDaws>>> no action
Gryffindor>>>>>>Infect Zasz
Crescent>>> Learn from Holt>>>>get blocked by panda >>>>failed
Seraph>>>>>Learn from Erinyes >>> successs

Belserion>>>>>Kills Lawlett

DAY 2 - No penalties
Zasz has a flu and cannot vote on Day 2

NIGHT 2 ACTIONS
Finalbeta- Investigates Demonspeed >>> Your target's role is Doctor
Marmaladesky >>>blocks crescentjinx
Kato>>> kill Vandred>>> flip fails
Takuan -steals from TSPanda>>> fails

Panda>>>Blocks Jinx
Demon >>> Protect Jinx>>>>>No effect
Shinobi>>> protects Lambu
Lambu >>> Protects Holt>>> flips coin, success
Holt >>> investigate Takuan >>> result is ‘guilty’
SonofDaws>>>> hides behind demon>>>>succeeds
Gryffindor>>>>>>infects Lambu
Crescent>>>Learns from Holt>>>>blocked, fails
Seraph>>> Learns from Erinyes>>> succeeds>>> Becomes Pirate
Erinyes>>> no action

Belserion>>>>> kill takuan >>>succeeds

DAY 3
Erin gets 3 penalty votes for not posting thrice and 1 penalty vote for not voting.

NIGHT 3 ACTIONS
Finalbeta – investigate Holt>>>>>>Learns role 'Detective'
Marmaladesky >>blocks shinobi
Kato>>> kill erin>>>flip coin>>>succeeds

Panda>>> Block Erinyes
Shinobi>>> Protect Holt>>>blocked by escort
Holt >>>investigates Panda>>> gets innocent
SonofDaws>>>> hides behind Belserion>>>succeeds
Gryffindor>>>>>> infect Vandred
Crescent>>> learn form bel>>>>succeeds>>> has the role stolen, becomes townie
Seraph>>> Steal/Pirate CrescentJinx>>> succeeds, becomes “insane Apprentice”
Erinyes>>> no action

Belserion>>>>> kill Vandred>>>succeeds

DAY 4 SKIPPED

NIGHT 4 ACTIONS
Marmaladesky >Blocks Panda>>>>>Coin flip>>>>>Succeeds
Kato>>> Kills Holt>>>>>coin flip succeeds
Finalbeta >>>>>>Investigates Belserion>>>>Learns Role 'Serial Killer'

Panda>>> Block Kato>>>coin flip fails, blocked by escort
Shinobi>>> no action
Holt >>>Investigates Kato>>>>>Result 'Guilty'
SonofDaws>>>>Hides behind Belserion>>>>Succeeds
Gryffindor>>>>>>infect holt
Seraph>>>Holt

Belserion>>>>> kill shinobi>>>succeeds

DAY 5
CrescentJinx gets 1 penalty vote for not voting

NIGHT 5 ACTIONS
Finalbeta >>> investigate daws>>> get blocked>>>fail
Marmaladesky >>>>> murder Seraph

Panda>>>block Finalbeta
SonofDaws>>>> hide behind seraph
Gryffindor>>>>>> infect bel>>>succeeds
Seraph>>>Learns from TSPanda

Belserion>>>>> kill Gryffindor>>>succeeds

DAY 6
Belserion has a flu and cannot vote

Crescent Jinx · Jul 21, 2018

Demonspeed said:
It's MH, we can all change our genders .

Oh that reminds me, I forgot to include Lambu :lambirb

gnut said:
Yeah....to cook Thanksgiving dinner so us guyscan watch the ball games and nap

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For realz doh

........N1 you better get someone to protect you......

Lawl Po Bia · Jul 21, 2018

Demonspeed said:
It's MH, we can all change our genders . Look at @TSPanda.

But panda is a girl saw her firsthand and secondhand

Copy Panda · Jul 21, 2018

im a cute girl

gnut · Jul 21, 2018

Crescent Jinx said:
Oh that reminds me, I forgot to include Lambu

........N1 you better get someone to protect you......

Oh....cant cook huh?

:outta

Copy Panda · Jul 21, 2018

Crescent Jinx said:
Still waiting on the day, a randomizer will let me be on an all female mafia team

Probably will be waiting a long time for that

You have been on an all female team! With me and Farf :3

Crescent Jinx · Jul 21, 2018

gnut said:
Oh....cant cook huh?

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TSPanda said:
You have been on an all female team! With me and Farf :3

My bad....

Is that why Holt tried to mentor us?

gnut · Jul 21, 2018

Crescent Jinx said:
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My bad....

Is that why Holt tried to mentor us?

No....holt is only trying to smash :heh

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TSPanda said:
im a cute girl

Stop creating pandamonium
:cop

Crescent Jinx · Jul 21, 2018

gnut said:

Still not going to protect you on N1.

gnut · Jul 21, 2018

Crescent Jinx said:
Still not going to protect you on N1.

Its ok....i'll take my birth control

Copy Panda · Jul 21, 2018

G, if we host next month are you in?

gnut · Jul 21, 2018

TSPanda said:
G, if we host next month are you in?

Ofc....
To everyone matter of fact....
What kept me from playing this game has been resolved and im good to go.

Thanks for all the concern....because i bet a bunch of you thought i was dying irl to not play a game :gnut

Lawl Po Bia · Jul 21, 2018

Main host is bullying his helper, plz help

Takuan · Jul 21, 2018

@GrySun i agree that mistakes were made in the end and so it wasnt flawless. But you're telling me that either the avoid if the double lynch, or killing the prostitute, would have made mafia win. You're telling me that one mistake cost mafia the game' when everything was against town from the begining to the end, the freeman the vengeful killing a townie the docs and prostitute useless all game the sk mass killing townies. One mistake from mafia cost the game. Yes it should have been avoided, but this is still one mistake, not killing the prodtitute, thzt we're talking about. Im wondering how the game or setup can be considered balanced if after all these absurdly desperate events for town, one mistake from mafia was able to make town win.
Alright the prostitute should have been killed earlier' but thriughout the game she blocked one kill thats it. Killing her might have saved a doc instead who could have saved someone too. At the end of the day i can hardly consider a better turn of events for mafia, loook at zll the things i listed which made town desperate. Still that was not enough? It should have been enough, thats all im saying.
You're telling me that for mafia to win the game, it would have needed ALL that happened already which was alrrady incredibly lucky, plus killing and o ghe prostitute beforr the kast day, otherxise one mistake makes everything worthless in the end?
Whatever anyway. In my mind if by not killing one particular townie mafia lost the game after an incredibly lucky run with everything goung for them, i can hardly consider how they could have even a chance of winning in normal conditions (because this game, as you yourself noted in the dead pad, was far from normal conditions when looking at towns mess ups and bad lucks throughout the game). Like, take the same setup and run the game 100 times, how many times do you think town, mafia or sk woulD win?

GrySun · Jul 21, 2018

Demonspeed said:
It's MH, we can all change our genders . Look at @TSPanda.

And my fav female @syx

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Crescent Jinx said:
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My bad....

Is that why Holt tried to mentor us?

@Holt explain yourself

Copy Panda · Jul 21, 2018

Takuchi, Id usually meme but since you're cute, my lover against your will and general victim of the disease I am to MG, I'll share with you the absolute most important bit of wisdom required to succeed in MG, love and life at large:

Luck beats skill.

And also, not killing the prostitute I don't think was the bad play. For all intents and purposes, there was this unspoken agreement Id live as long as I cosplayed as a retard, right? By principle, sure, kill prio 1 block, but you made the gameplay decision to not do so.

I'd argue a bunch of other things caused this instead... (in reverse order) that flu Belse got, just 5 people being left because Son killing himself by hiding, Kato's BK claim (the idea was good, but you knew I was prostitute but not wtf i was up to so the execution could've been less obvious), the SK being good, Zasz being uncovered in unfortunate fashion and finally

most importantly

Beta signing up and being assigned mafia

Town didn't beat you Takuchi, Beta lost to town

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You're leaving out the skill factor really... Marma for instance didn't get as far as she did because of her role and Belse almost won by herself (Jinx and I... Well memes got us to the final day so...).

This game is very volatile because they're not being played in a vacuum. If I say more than 1 smart thing a day Im dead. If Gry questions less than 6 people a day, he's dead. If mango signs up (everyone has a bad time and then), she's dead. Hyung has 50% chance of being host killed because fuck it. #demonalwaysmafia etc., basically the better you get, the better your chances become of not tilting harder than everyone else (rich coming from me ik) and you're defo a good player so please dont be too tilted :3

Zasz · Jul 21, 2018

Well, the one thing I'm sure of is that I won't forget this game anytime soon due to many reasons. LOL

GrySun · Jul 21, 2018

Takuan said:
@GrySun i agree that mistakes were made in the end and so it wasnt flawless. But you're telling me that either the avoid if the double lynch, or killing the prostitute, would have made mafia win. You're telling me that one mistake cost mafia the game' when everything was against town from the begining to the end, the freeman the vengeful killing a townie the docs and prostitute useless all game the sk mass killing townies. One mistake from mafia cost the game. Yes it should have been avoided, but this is still one mistake, not killing the prodtitute, thzt we're talking about. Im wondering how the game or setup can be considered balanced if after all these absurdly desperate events for town, one mistake from mafia was able to make town win.
Alright the prostitute should have been killed earlier' but thriughout the game she blocked one kill thats it. Killing her might have saved a doc instead who could have saved someone too. At the end of the day i can hardly consider a better turn of events for mafia, loook at zll the things i listed which made town desperate. Still that was not enough? It should have been enough, thats all im saying.
You're telling me that for mafia to win the game, it would have needed ALL that happened already which was alrrady incredibly lucky, plus killing and o ghe prostitute beforr the kast day, otherxise one mistake makes everything worthless in the end?
Whatever anyway. In my mind if by not killing one particular townie mafia lost the game after an incredibly lucky run with everything goung for them, i can hardly consider how they could have even a chance of winning in normal conditions (because this game, as you yourself noted in the dead pad, was far from normal conditions when looking at towns mess ups and bad lucks throughout the game). Like, take the same setup and run the game 100 times, how many times do you think town, mafia or sk woulD win?

No you misunderstood it Taku. I said that you‘d have won with a double lynch if the Prostitute was dead. This in no way excuses all the other mistakes mafia did. The events that happened were good, but not perfect either. Bunch of townies died, but what‘s the point of that if your team can‘t be trustworthy and end up lynched? There‘s many ways to win this game for mafia even if Prostitute lives, and even if the night deaths are less fortunate. But for all those your team would need to play better. You should consider it amazing it was this close of a game with pure luck only.

You‘re thinking of balance while considering the players we had. Balance is seen by looking at the roles only. And with roles only, I would say it‘s more in mafia‘s favor. Because townies being confused by their roles is guaranteed, and so are some easy lynches. If we run it 100 times, there‘d be more wins of mafia than of town probably.

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Zasz said:
Well, the one thing I'm sure of is that I won't forget this game anytime soon due to many reasons. LOL

What was wrong Zasz?

Asako · Jul 21, 2018

GrySun said:
Oh and @Asako any thoughts you have to share about how it was to host? Including tinkering with role setup, the time you need to host properly, night actions, and learning more in general? How much did you do(did they let you do) compared to the other two hosts?

Honestly I really had fun hosting this game, seeing every fraction, every part, being the dead pad first day, the mafia pad, and the pms and ofc talking with my lovely hosts about how this game will process, about how much I did, well i honestly think I didn't do much compare to pompom and spriggan, but I did some part.

About the roles, I think it's balanced because even though there was a lot of learning roles needed to know when to use their role, or luck the mafia also had those role being unskilled mafia and the pirate that need the det help, mafia were really lucky to get the prostitute first day, but other then that the paranoid spy was for them if they ever stole it to mess with them, also the naive doc if they ever decided to steal it, the best roles for mafia were VT or prostitute ( that I was scared that they get, as imagine how broken they will be with two blocking roles )

The SK was a lone one, and they were the only one not needing luck only target the right person and surviving.

The insane apprentice was if they ever became an unskilled mafia or SK ( but especial SK we wanted that to happen ) but sadly everytime she got blocked and then her role stolen ( it broke my heart honestly )

The pirate was for boa, simple and also it was for the mafia pirate if they ever decide to hint pirate not expecting there was an other one ( that taku was going to do before getting killed )

The night action were interesting... and sad, ( lambu protecting vand as a loyal member before getting killed and guessing his role somehow, crescent never using her role, shinobi going for zasz wanting to be insane and kill him while the insane one wanted to save XD )

Also anyone want to ask @shinobi why she did that hint out of all the hints :cookiearf

@Crescent Jinx I'm for an all girl mafia one day, could be a beautiful pad to be in :evil

The only think that I hated in this game is finalbeta not being in the mafia pad and only coming in to say what he got and then go to be never seen again :nah