Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2018] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Nemesis]

A manga about Youtubers

A manga about Virtual Youtuber would be better lol

 

[TyVip]

I don't see why future series cannot have pirates or superheroes or ninjas. What's important are the characters an execution of plot. There actually was another hero manga, though it was an ecchi manga.

Lady Justice is a masterpiece!!

 

[xAsum0x]

My next question would be what type of setting/class do you want/wish to be in Jump? I think Steampunk + Cowboy would make some really cool setting/story line.

This is hard because it feels like everything has been done to death.

 

[shoyoboyo]

Something we can discuss since no TOC this week
Will a manga about ninja or monster hunter be success nowadays if they serialize right now? or will they be overshadow by its predecessor? For on going manga, will a manga about pirate or superheroes or something similar make it to the magazine? Or Do the editors stop them completely? We see plenty of exorcist manga in Jump, why not the other setting?

My next question would be what type of setting/class do you want/wish to be in Jump? I think Steampunk + Cowboy would make some really cool setting/story line.

Exorcist manga is a really broad premise, so a lot of manga that fall into that category are able to distinguish themselves from one another, even if the premise is very common. It's the same situation with those Kirara style "cute girls doing cute things" anime that are made every season. I think shonen mangaka try to avoid the ninja or pirate premise mainly because it's inevitable that they're going to be compared to One Piece and Naruto. It doesn't help that both of them are still going strong.

As for a setting I would like to see, space adventure is an obvious one. I'm hoping Eden's Zero can ease that urge for now, but Mashima's content can be pretty shaky quality wise. Nevertheless, it's still enjoyable enough to read it weekly. I'd still like to see a space manga in Jump though.

How about a cyberpunk or an space opera-like manga?

Glad we were both thinking the same thing.

 

[xAsum0x]

I like series like Stealth symphony where multiple settings and fantasies can be combined and utilized in the same world.

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 8, 2018, Original Post Date: Aug 8, 2018 ---

Exorcist manga is a really broad premise, so a lot of manga that fall into that category are able to distinguish themselves from one another, even if the premise is very common. It's the same situation with those Kirara style "cute girls doing cute things" anime that are made every season. I think shonen mangaka try to avoid the ninja or pirate premise mainly because it's inevitable that they're going to be compared to One Piece and Naruto. It doesn't help that both of them are still going strong.

As for a setting I would like to see, space adventure is an obvious one. I'm hoping Eden's Zero can ease that urge for now, but Mashima's content can be pretty shaky quality wise. Nevertheless, it's still enjoyable enough to read it weekly. I'd still like to see a space manga in Jump though.


Glad we were both thinking the same thing.

Space One Piece

 

[Mr.Fujimaster]

I just want a Space Battle manga, Surf manga and eSports manga.

 

[savethecat]

Is the newest Black Clover arc really amazing like ppl are hyping it up to be

 

[shoyoboyo]

The latest arc is pretty much what a lot of early plot threads have been leading up to. It's not amazing per say, but it's one of the better arcs.

 

[Caiops]

We need "HOT" to become a series.

It will be Haikyuu level of sales.

 

[Franz]

Question is will MHA ever reach peak Haikyuu sales? At this point, Haikyuu's volume 19 had sold over 1 million copies.

HQ is 30 million, My Hero 16. It should minimum double sales.

 

[CallMeTsuyu]

Doesn't even need to be said. Jump and this thread's frequenters will know in due time

Aside from that, I'd love to see a skateboarding manga or another historical manga like Kenshin(not necessarily about samurais or even in Japan, mind you). Maybe a traditional romcom manga without the wish fulfillment harem nonsense, too.

 

[Mankichi Togawa]

I once said next spokon should be handball or ice hockey, and then Hot appeared.

Next action manga...we haven't had any space opera since Cobra. A time travelers series could also be interesting.

Another thing that Jump never had is a viking series. And only succesful western Jump had was Koya no Shonen Isamu in 1973.

 

[101nemesis]

I say this every time people talk about potential new series and genres, but like whatever the fuck happened to wonderful wonder world oneshot?

Spoiler

The art was also quite messy in places so I had quite some trouble making out the action. I expected something since this is a sports series and its from a veteran. It seems to be the thing now to make sports series that have mediocre execution.

Yep, I felt the art was bland and incomplete. I kinda expected more from her.

 

[nonowa]

A lot of you are terrible at reading and understanding sales charts

What a drop...

The Neverland volume 7 number is for 137 days.

 

[Franz]

A lot of you are terrible at reading and understanding sales charts



The Neverland volume 7 number is for 137 days.

This is the 10 volume.

 

[nonowa]

This is the 10 volume.

If you unironically think WotaKoi sold more in a week and less days than Haikyuu I don't know what to tell you.

Just look at this:

8/6 漫画ランキング コミック売上BEST500【ハイキュー!!33】

1 9784088815381 ハイキュー！！　３３ 集英社 古舘春一 2018.8.3
2 9784088815565 ワンパンマン　１７ 集英社 村田雄介 2018.8.3
3 9784088815343 約束のネバーランド　１０ 集英社 出水ぽすか 2018.8.3
4 9784088815671 ブラッククローバー　１７ 集英社 田畠裕基 2018.8.3
5 9784758009874 ヲタクに恋は難しい 講談社一迅 ふじた 2018.7.31
6 9784065124710 １日外出録ハンチョウ　４ 講談社 上原求 2018.8.6
7 9784088815404 鬼滅の刃　１２ 集英社 吾峠呼世晴 2018.8.3
8 9784088815374 銀魂－ぎんたま－　７４ 集英社 空知英秋 2018.8.3
9 9784088815398 斉木楠雄のΨ難　２６ 集英社 麻生周一 2018.8.3
10 9784088815442 花のち晴れ～花男　Ｎｅｘｔ　Ｓｅａｓｏ　１０ 集英社 神尾葉子 2018.8.3
11 9784757557956 黒執事　２７ スクウェア 枢やな 2018.7.27

This is from August 6 and Haikyuu, OPM and Neverland are already back at 1-3.

 

[iceemperor]

Oricon Chart 7/30-8/5
267683 *267683 Haikyuu
147422 *147422 Neverland
118882 *118882 Slam Dunk 11
117206 *117206 Slam Dunk 12
114082 *114082 Slam Dunk 13
112070 *112070 Slam Dunk 14
*83957 **83957 BC
*75653 **75653 Gintama
*64061 **64061 Kimetsu
*48122 **48122 Saiki
*45210 **45210 Hananochi
*32792 *577867 Heroaca
*23923 *589670 Haikyuu 32
*17233 2003749 OP

07/02-08/05 Monthly rankings
589670 *589670 Haikyuu 32
577867 *577867 Heroaca
302689 *302689 Soma
267683 *267683 Haikyuu 33
173699 *173699 Harem
150479 *188128 S7
148023 *184189 S9
147891 *184899 S8
147422 *147422 Neverland
145622 *181327 S10
122106 2003749 OP
118882 *118882 S11
117206 *117206 S12
114082 *114082 S13
112070 *112070 S14
108433 *108433 Bokuben
*99075 **99075 Yuragi
*97798 **97798 Dr. Stone
*83957 **83957 BC

The sales data for 51-100 should some out tomorrow but there is a bit of a drop for some series.
Looking at previous volumes with the same amount of days in the first week (3 days):

Black Clover:
102907 (3)│193778│226022│------│------┃*,294,282 (*80)┃2018/03｜ブラッククローバー 15
│*83957 (3)│------│------│------│------┃*,*83,957 (**3)┃2018/08｜ブラッククローバー 17

Kimetsu:
│*65861 (3)│118511│133976│------│------┃*,133,976 (*17)┃2018/03｜鬼滅の刃 10
│*64061 (3)│------│------│------│------┃*,*64,061 (**3)┃2018/08｜鬼滅の刃 12

Gintama
│*78770 (3)│140881│164070│------│------┃*,164,070 (*17)┃2018/03｜銀魂 72
│*75653 (3)│------│------│------│------┃*,*75,653 (**3)┃2018/08｜銀魂 74

These could be due to various factors of course.

 

[MangAniMY]

OP finally reaching that 2M mark

can't wait for digital argument to go up in this thread again. /s


in all seriousness the terrible weather in Japan right might be one of the reason for the drop.

 

[savethecat]

Do you guys think Haikyuu season 4 is realistic at this point?

 

[SharkBait]

Do you guys think Haikyuu season 4 is realistic at this point?

why would it be unrealistic?

With ancient properties even being given new animes, anything is possible.