Games Mafia Game 69 - Overlord - Postgame

[Lambu]

The sun rises on Nazarick, it was a cold day with icy wind howling outside, and the surviving members of The Tomb gathered once again around Lord Ainz. He had an important announcement to make.
They had found Pandora's Actor body, lifeless in the snow. No signs of violence were found.

Spoiler: Night Results

James Rye
Doctor

What a terrible loss, everyone was already losing faith and even Lord Ainz, with all his might, looked kind of depressed with the news...










But... suddenly, the body raised on its own feet... (?)

"It was all an act guys"



What the..? How could this happen?! Albedo had checked the body and it was definitely dead! What's the meaning of this...

Oh my! Santa Claus has come!! He had been handing gifts secretly to all the members of Nazarick to cheer them up, and as a 5th gift he gave Pandora's actor a superprotection charm!


What a Christmas Miracle! \=3=/


THIRD PARTY WINS!!!

The Grynch

GrySun
Santa Claus


Congratulations and Merry Christmas everyone!!!

 

[Lambu]

Role list

• @Asako as Brain Unglaus >>> Sane Apprentice >>> Becomes Detective in N2 >>> Lynched D3
• @lindananahayashida as Cocytus >>> Mafia Detective
• @Belserion as Sebas >>> Death Miller
• @MarmaladeSky as Momon >>> Innocent Child >>> Lynched D2
• @Seraph as Yuri Alpha >>> Spy >>> Daykilled D3
• @James Rye as Pandora's Actor >>> Sane Doctor
• @Takuan as Mare Bello Fiore >>> Hider
• @GrySun as Lupus Regina Beta >>> Santa Claus >>> Winner!
• @Crescent Jinx as Shalltear >>> Noble >>> Lynched D1
• @Jammin as Hamsuke >>> Shapeshifter >>> Lynched D5
• @Zasz as Aura Bello Fiore >>> Daytime Vigilante >>> Turns into Illusion in N3
• @Juviii as Narberal Gamma >>> Mortician
• @gnut as Gazef >>> Sane Doctor >>> Becomes Freeman in D3 >>> Killed N3
• @desin24 as Shasuryu Shasha >>> Mafia Boss >>> Turns into Illusion in N2
• @SonOfDaws as Entoma Vasilissa Zeta >>> Prostitute >>> Killed N1
• @Gryffindor as Demiurge >>> Mafia Janitor >>> Turns into Illusion in N4
• @revo as Climb >>> Mafia Gambler
• @digitaldude as Solution Epsilon >>> Sane Detective >>> Killed N2
• @Vandred as Jirnic >>> Insane Detective >>> Dies due to poison in N2

 

[Lambu]

Ok guys, here are the Night Actions! o/

Spoiler: NIGHT ACTIONS

Night 1 Actions:

Vandred >>>>> Investigates Seraph >>>>> Guilty!
DD >>>>> Investigates Jammin >>>>> Guilty!
Seraph >>>>> Spies on Belserion >>>>> Gets Nothing
Gnut >>>>> Protects Belserion >>>>> Success!
James Rye >>>>> Protects GrySun >>>>> Success!
Asako >>>>> Learns from Vandred >>>>> Success!
GrySun >>>>> Gives Gift #1 to Vandred >>>>> Success! Vandred is poisoned
Daws >>>>> Blocks desin >>>>> Fails! due to 12% chance of fail on desin (lol)
Linda >>>>> Investigates DD >>>>> Success! Gets he's Det
Gryffindor >>>>> Janitorizes Daws >>>>>> Success! Gets Daws' role.
Takuan >>>>> Hides behind nobody
Jammin >>>>> Hides behind GrySun >>>>> Success! but doesn't kill him due to Doc's protection


Night 2 Actions:

Vandred >>>>> Investigates Asako >>>>> Guilty! (But dies due to poison)
DD >>>>> Investigates GrySun >>>>> Guilty! (But is killed by Janitor)
Takuan >>>>> Hides behind Zasz >>>>> Success!
Asako >>>>> Learn from Vandred >>>>> Success! Thanks to 15% chance of assured success becomes Det.
Juviii >>>>> Checks Daws corpse >>>>> Success!
Seraph >>>>> Spies on Asako >>>>> Success! Gets she targetted Van
Jammin >>>>> Hides behind Desin >>>>> Success! desin becomes an illusion.
James >>>>> Protects gnut >>>>> Success!
Gry >>>>> Sends Gift #2 to gnut >>>>> Success! gnut becomes Freeman
gnut >>>>> Protects Jammin >>>>> Success!
Gryffindor >>>>> Kills DD >>>>> Success! he gets his role.
Linda >>>>> Investigates Belserion >>>>> Success! Gets she's DM


Night 3 Actions:

Juviii >>>>> Checks Vandred's corpse >>>>> Success!
James Rye >>>>>> Protects Takuan >>>>> Success!
Takuan >>>>> Hides behind Linda >>>>> Fails! Hides behind Gryff's teammate!
Gry >>>>> Gives Gift #3 Gryffindor >>>>> Success! His stats are reset to zero (heh)
Jammin >>>>> Hides behind Zasz >>>>> Success! Zasz becomes an Illusion.
Linda >>>>> Investigates Jammin >>>>> Success! Gets he's SS
Gryffindor >>>>> Janitorizes gnut >>>>> Success! Gets his role and D4 is skipped


Night 4 Actions:

Juviii >>>>> Checks digitaldude's corpse >>>>> Success!
James Rye >>>>> Protects Takuan >>>>> Success! (Good call)
Gry >>>>> Gives Gift #4 to linda >>>>> Success! She gets NVD
Jammin >>>>> Hides Behind Gryff >>>>> Success! He becomes an Illusion
Linda >>>>> Investigates James >>>>> Success! Gets he's Doc
Gryff >>>>> Janitorizes Takuan >>>>> Fails!
Takuan >>>>>> Hides behind linda >>>>>> Fails! Hides behind Gryff's teammate!


Night 5 Actions

Juviii >>>>> Checks desin's corpse >>>>> Success!
James Rye >>>>> Protects Gry >>>>> Success!
Gry >>>>> Gives Gift #5 to James >>>>> Success! Wins the game!
Linda >>>>>> Investigates Gry >>>>> Success!
Revo >>>>>> Kills James >>>>>> Fails thanks to the magic of xmas! =3=



Nice Trivia!:

• James saved the Grynch on N1
• Seraph was on point in almost all his deduction during DayPhases
• DD investigated both TPs in two nights, shame he was caught first.
• Gry betrays Van once more (even if he didn't know it...heh)

Also we were quite surprised with how underrated Agility was. It certainly had potential to change a lot of developments if more points were spent on it. Defense was good, but against strength users it was pretty much useless.

 

[Elusia]

Ofc they help with roles, but meant the specific case of Apprentice‘s self-rule of not learning when teacher dies/is blocked. Does Str go through that and let the Apprentice learn?
Just trying to understand just how deep Str‘s influence actually goes, to the point of even changing how some roles themselves work

Yep. The stats in this game are strong enough to even bend some of the initial roles.

And a question for fun, if someone forgot to PM would Str stat still make an action possible?

No, that's impossible XP
Since we, the hosts, don't know if the player wanted to use his or her points on Str, Def or Agi during that day phase.

 

[Seraph]

Seriously now a Det is the next?
Van

I kinda get why you keep asking about the role hints...this is my first time being a townie (well this is just my second game), but my role is useless more than anything, and I honestly can't see how it can contribute to townies that much (that's why I said it kinda fits the Climb avi, sorry to any fan of him if there's one here ).

Being honest to you I want to wait some hours to give more hints and maybe a final reveal of my role. Gotta reread the pages because I don't want to take a dumb decision on who to votekill anymore

I'll take you by your word,definitely looking forward to this.

Gratify mafia maybe I really shouldn't have said that I did learn form vand but I was so paranoid yesterday in case of that 1% he was mafia and I did die no one could have suspected him, sorry vand
Dis doesn't seem good, and yes I'm det now but because of vand death no sanity yet

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Also if DD was really a det he did say that even if he got killed he left enough hints to figure out his targets so I guess it's time to dig around in DD posts.

So you claimed apprentice,learned from Van twice and are now the same as him? Hmm... You know it is funny that Van dies in the exact Night that you become a Detective,there is also the Janitor Kill...

Tbh, Im also interested in what those 3 (Asako, Revo & Zasz) are going to say. I'll cast my 1st vote after reading their reveals & reading others thoughts about it. But like you said, a mafia would definitely try not to say anything too suspicious.

Since I don't have much to suspect taku either. If nothing interesting comes up, my first vote would probably be him. (So, that I could change it later.)

About gry, do you consider him more of a threat than those 3 that may reveal?

No raising guns on Gry yet,against him i got nothing substantial as of yet.

Yep. The stats in this game are strong enough to even bend some of the initial roles.

That is interesting,thanks for clarifying!

 

[James Rye]

Atm if townies put their points into def they got 27% chance of surviving a kill as long as the kill user has no str or failed his str check. So sooner or later we should have nights with 0 kills.

I see. Thanks for pointing them out. Honestly, 4 might be the worst so I hope its not the case. Since if a detective hinted about their role & someone tried to protect them causing it to backfire!

Well, judging by what you are saying, I think me saying anything about it would be pointless atm. Since I'm new I dont know how previous hosts acted anyways.

DD seemed to have pointed out to have left hints in case the worst happens. So, I wouldn't completely neglect it. Specially since DD got eliminated just after mentioning him revealing his identity. If they (mafia) took such an extreme measure, I can only think they were either panicking or DD did have an important role.

Both you & seraph are talking about gry. Honestly, I by myself didnt suspect anything about him. He seemed to be plying in a similar manner to vand? Also, it could be a nice strategy for mafias to keep him alive if everyone thinks jim living longer could potentially mean he is a mafia. We alreasy eliminated many without much valid reason. Do you have other reason to suspect him tho?

But seraphs hint suggests he might be a bomber tho?

I think the det could just tell them during the night period? Besides, we have eliminated pretty much all the good guys so far. I dont think they will take such a risk to post any hints. Specially since everything is pretty much going just as they are planning to far.

The best way you can get trust is in providing hints to your role or revealing your role. Usually around day 3 or 4 people start revealing mostly outta desperation because we keep losing too many townies by then. That way mafias who refuse to take on a role can be flushed out or mafias who take on a role but made a mistake "using" it can be found and lynched. It is hard though. For example, if a Mafia claims passive then we need the luck that a spy comes out and says "hey that can't be, that guy targeted somebody last night" if said somebody happened to die last night then that guy is most likely a risk to townie and better off dead.

I think we should for today focus on the ones who voted for the Innocent Child to die. Chances are quite big that at least one or two are Mafia. So the more we force those people to give hints and reveal their roles, the better for us in finding out who's who and who might be townie and who might be a liar.

 

[Seraph]

Iirc. in my first game i was an apprentice myself and back then it was called a Popular Mafia Cover,chances are that Asako is lying to us in regards of her Role.
I can confirm that her target last night was infact Van though...

 

[James Rye]

Iirc. in my first game i was an apprentice myself and back then it was called a Popular Mafia Cover,chances are that Asako is lying to us in regards of her Role.
I can confirm that her target last night was infact Van though...

Well, then @Asako has some explaining to do. Also thanks for sharing, feels like we gonna get a mafia today.

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Who were the ones who voted for Marmalade to die? And for who did Asako vote?

 

[Asako]

Well, then @Asako has some explaining to do. Also thanks for sharing, feels like we gonna get a mafia today.

i already did say that my target was vand i even hinted at it yesterday.......

 

[Zasz]

Okay guys, I'll be away for a while.
See ya later for the votekill.

 

[Seraph]

i already did say that my target was vand i even hinted at it yesterday.......

Why did you pick Van? As Town he isn't exactly a safe bet imo. He'd be on the Mafia's List for sure. And your first attempt at learning from him was an immediate success? Mind sharing where you put your Points on?

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 20, 2018, Original Post Date: Dec 20, 2018 ---

I wanted to mention that i believe that the Mafia Det. investigated DD and they chose the Janitor to kill him to keep us in the Dark about a possible 2nd Detective in our Team.

Van must've been killed by a TP.

 

[Asako]

Why did you pick Van? As Town he isn't exactly a safe bet imo. He'd be on the Mafia's List for sure. And your first attempt at learning from him was an immediate success? Mind sharing where you put your Points on?

no i learned form him n1 and n2, and its because i trusted vand plus his hint seemed for a good role tho i didnt think it was det., for my points no but i can say that strength was the most lvl up one

 

[revo]

Well good morning here /

Who were the ones who voted for Marmalade to die? And for who did Asako vote?

Asako, Jammin, Gry, Takuan and me voted for Marma. I'm not sure if I'm missing anyone else.
I started votekilling her because I considered it a random killing, but then she suddenly went to top most voted, when the most voted in that moment was Asako and I think Takuan, if I'm not wrong (I can't find the list of the votekilled from last day, so don't trust my memory there xD),.

 

[Seraph]

no i learned form him n1 and n2, and its because i trusted vand plus his hint seemed for a good role tho i didnt think it was det., for my points no but i can say that strength was the most lvl up one

Didn't he just hint at something related to his Character from the wiki though? What did you think his role was?

 

[Asako]

Well good morning here /

Asako, Jammin, Gry, Takuan and me voted for Marma. I'm not sure if I'm missing anyone else.
I started votekilling her because I considered it a random killing, but then she suddenly went to top most voted, when the most voted in that moment was Asako and I think Takuan, if I'm not wrong (I can't find the list of the votekilled from last day, so don't trust my memory there xD),.

i voted right after you voted then after some hour, jammin first then gry then taku to save himself

Didn't he just hint at something related to his Character from the wiki though? What did you think his role was?

a day kill role...
it was before zasz hinted at being one, so in D2 that was proven wrong

 

[Belserion]

3) There is one mafia and a Mentor who recruited a mentee first night so on second night they have done a kill

I'm leaning towards this after seeing Asako's reveal. The mentor role, well specifically the mentee, most closely resembles the apprentice. Sticking as close as possible to your actual role is the best way to avoid slip ups usually. Plus the night we know she targets Van turning out to be the night he dies is way too coincidental.

 

[Asako]

@Seraph who did you spy on N1 ?

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 20, 2018, Original Post Date: Dec 20, 2018 ---

I'm leaning towards this after seeing Asako's reveal. The mentor role, well specifically the mentee, most closely resembles the apprentice. Sticking as close as possible to your actual role is the best way to avoid slip ups usually. Plus the night we know she targets Van turning out to be the night he dies is way too coincidental.

its not coincidental because i did hint that it was vand im sure the mafia oe 3rd party killed vand because of that to stop me form learning (too bad for them becasue i got lucky ) and frame me even gry knew who it was before i did annonce it.

 

[Belserion]

its not coincidental because i did hint that it was vand im sure the mafia oe 3rd party killed vand because of that to stop me form learning (too bad for them becasue i got lucky ) and frame me even gry knew who it was before i did annonce it.

Hinting it was Van could have just been your way of covering your tracks since you already had it in your mind to kill him on N2. Those are just my thoughts. It'll be interesting to see what the others make of it.

 

[Seraph]

@Seraph who did you spy on N1 ?

I'd prefer to keep my N1 target to myself for now,when the time comes my result from that night may give us insight on the Targets Role.

 

[Takuan]

With one of my suspects gone now, I'll probably focus on Asako and Takuan, because tey're being a bit...how do I say it? Elusive?

You have nothing against me, aside from my inactivity in Day 1.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but we're currently at 9 points earned; last night Asako had put 6 points (and then gained her last 3), which means that if she put everything in Strength she had a 18% bonus. That's too little for me to bet on the possibility of her actions succeeding despite Vandred dying. Imo that's a slip up on her part: she even admitted that she had forgotten that an Apprentice can't learn if the target dies the same night.
So i'll be the first to Votekill Asako.

 

[Seraph]

Having said that,i'd give my initial vote now.

Votekill Asako

There are some things about her Apprentice Claim that line up way to smoothly for me. If we are going for a Kill i'd say she is the safest bet.

 

[gnut]

Having said that,i'd give my initial vote now.

Votekill Asako

There are some things about her Apprentice Claim that line up way to smoothly for me. If we are going for a Kill i'd say she is the safest bet.

I dont believe period she learned from a dead player...no matter how many points she had.
Like saying someone survives a pgo because they had 6points toward defense.

--- Double Post Merged, Dec 20, 2018, Original Post Date: Dec 20, 2018 ---

If she said she was maxing agility maybe...it specifically states agility helps prioritize an action over others...strength only helps your success rate.
Nothing about strength stat says it supersedes priorities.

 

[Seraph]

and frame me even gry knew who it was before i did annonce it.

I'm only seeing this now but Gry "knew" who it was before you announced it? He KNEW who it was...Afaik Gry said that it "seems" like Van is the target you learned from...i wonder if you just gave away your Mafia Bud. Or Mentor for that matter.