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Who will be Sanji's main opponent during the Raid on Onigashima?


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Likely undecided, unless Page is so weak that he can get one-shot.
 

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Sanji won this one, I dont think Sanji will end this arc fighting anything less than a commander level opponent.
With such a badass design I don't see page one going down off pannel.
 

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I know it's an unpopular opinion but Oda went out of his way to say that Sanji needed to finish the battle quick and without getting hurt. Sanji made it clear it was to thin out Kaido's rank and file... When strawhats are put to a mission, they USUALLY dont fail. Sanji isn't going to fail here.

That being said, I wouldn't be surprised is it was left undecided and very shocked if Page 1 wins.
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Ancient Zoans are known for their resilience so if he makes it out of the battle without TOO much damage we cant say we didnt see that coming.

If Sanji can keep P1 down, it speaks to Sanji's strength more than P1's zoan abilities
 

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So how did Sanji vs Page the savage end in your opinion?
  1. Sanji won
  2. Page the savage won
  3. interrupted/undecided
I think that it's the last option, the clash was a setup for a fight later during the arc.
Sanji winning this as Oda is setting up use of RS as well facing one of YCs later on. Makes no sense on it being wasted and Sanji have to show out if Monster Trio he is one that fight both brains and brawn and doesn't mess up like Luffy and Zoro did on their parts. Always been like that.
 

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I also go with 3. It was quite a balanced fight, but nothing hints at Sanji destroying him quickly.
 

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I also go with 3. It was quite a balanced fight, but nothing hints at Sanji destroying him quickly.
Kinda does as so far judging on damage on both sides, Page One is taking more from Sanji from his kicks as he gets push back and screaming in pain. Plus Sanji haven't even use a name move, use Haki, and DJ to add to it. Don't see it equally match if he is feeling that much damage already even before Sanji uses RS, he can push him back with a simple kick with ease.

So all is pointing to Sanji dominating on his side pretty easily.
 
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I also go with 3. It was quite a balanced fight, but nothing hints at Sanji destroying him quickly.
I mean, from what we seen the signs point to Sanji dominating as long as he doesnt try to clash directly with Page 1. Everything else is pointing to a Sanji win, especially since when we left off Page 1 was crying out in a lot of pain.
 

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I mean, from what we seen the signs point to Sanji dominating as long as he doesnt try to clash directly with Page 1. Everything else is pointing to a Sanji win, especially since when we left off Page 1 was crying out in a lot of pain.
So did Luffy in the fight with Katakuri and we all know how long that has been dragged on.
 

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So did Luffy in the fight with Katakuri and we all know how long that has been dragged on.
Luffy won that fight in the end. What you mean?

Plus nothing points on Page One side especially he wants to kill Sanji. I don't see Oda doing anything RS when it will be use later on, let alone Sanji being kill. Idk why you want a bad outcome when nothing shows that especially Law (Oda through him) state the heaviness of the situation that nothing can help with them messing the plans more.
 

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Thinking about it, like with Luffy and his Gears, we got some glimpse of what the raid suit can do. And like with Luffy, we'll likely see the rest later in a serious fight, rather than now. I'm willing to bet the fight will likely be off-paneled.
 

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Oh guys i dont want a bad outcome, i was happy with the fakespoilers, were Sanji snatched a decisive win.

I am just saying... fightinterrupts are much more common currently with Odas storytelling then real fights. I just dont see how Sanji would totally dominate Page One, sure he got some damage but that never has stopped most people from coming back. Especially those friggin zoans.

@Lexus I mean the "crying out in pain". We have seen it pleanty of times for dramatic purposes. Heck some of us thought kaidou got his shit wrecked after Luffys first attack.
 

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Oh guys i dont want a bad outcome, i was happy with the fakespoilers, were Sanji snatched a decisive win.

I am just saying... fightinterrupts are much more common currently with Odas storytelling then real fights. I just dont see how Sanji would totally dominate Page One, sure he got some damage but that never has stopped most people from coming back. Especially those friggin zoans.

@Lexus I mean the "crying out in pain". We have seen it pleanty of times for dramatic purposes. Heck some of us thought kaidou got his shit wrecked after Luffys first attack.
Pretty sure what your comparing to here doesn't make it same situation. No offense especially Kaidou is different compare to this as he didn't make a sound not once while being attack as well didn't visible show it. Page One on the other hand has been visible damage and taken by Sanji's attacks without him even trying more. So not really good comparison on both sides there.
 

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Kinda does as so far judging on damage on both sides, Page One is taking more from Sanji from his kicks as he gets push back and screaming in pain. Plus Sanji haven't even use a name move, use Haki, and DJ to add to it. Don't see it equally match if he is feeling that much damage already even before Sanji uses RS, he can push him back with a simple kick with ease.

So all is pointing to Sanji dominating on his side pretty easily.
they said that page the savages ancient zoan scales protected him from any harm.

So yes he got sent flying but just like sanji recieved no damage. They were on par imo
 

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they said that page the savages ancient zoan scales protected him from any harm.

So yes he got sent flying but just like sanji recieved no damage. They were on par imo
While he is an Ancient Zoan, doesn't mean he won't go down still. Plus he can still be damage, just need more power into it is all and so far he is getting damage hard from last take we saw him in action.

Sanji was testing out the suit than taking it seriously. We haven't even seen him use his techniques, Haki, and DJ yet and already Page gets push back and and in pain. Don't see it on par much as still Sanji damaging him.
 

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While he is an Ancient Zoan, doesn't mean he won't go down still. Plus he can still be damage, just need more power into it is all and so far he is getting damage hard from last take we saw him in action.

Sanji was testing out the suit than taking it seriously. We haven't even seen him use his techniques, Haki, and DJ yet and already Page gets push back and and in pain. Don't see it on par much as still Sanji damaging him.
Dude, Page one was not serious either he underestimated Sanji and his suit, I mean he tried to bite him in full dino mode...

Now that he has turned into his hybrid form savage is taking him a bit more seriously even sending the cake baker flying with one swing of his mighty arm.

Also yes he can feel pain and take damage but so can Sanji, the boy said that his raid suit protected him from most of the damage he would have received, not all of it.
 

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Dude, Page one was not serious either he underestimated Sanji and his suit, I mean he tried to bite him in full dino mode...

Now that he has turned into his hybrid form savage is taking him a bit more seriously even sending the cake baker flying with one swing of his mighty arm.

Also yes he can feel pain and take damage but so can Sanji, the boy said that his raid suit protected him from most of the damage he would have received, not all of it.
Also was hybrid mode and still use power and get damage hard once again. The issue is he is not being observant, but his power is legit.

Sanji isn't even trying on his side, you know that? He been giving no name kicks so far and haven't use more power. Also Sanji has a lot durability with or without RS as shown in his fights. That wouldn't take him down even if the suit was damage. Plus being speedy as well power putting him advantage over Page One even more as shown since he can't seem to keep up.

Still testing it out so it looks he wanted to get hit on purpose to see how durable it is. Again your stretching and trying to downplay things once again, Afro. Gotta stop with the habit when all signs show Sanji being the more dominating person in the fight.

Doing a lot more better than nail-biter (Zoro) when dealing with a much tough headliner. That's for sure.
 

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Fight probably ended with Sanji's win. No point in having him make the declaration to take care of an opponent only to have him fail. Leaving Page One to roam around free with no real comeuppance after destroying other people's shops and food wouldn't be a good look either. Plus it'd go against Sanji's character.

I imagine we'll transition back to the village with Drake and Hawkins finding Page One knocked out and the villagers talking about O Soba Mask. I'm sure Sanji is going to be treated as another local legend like the Witching Hour Boy.
 
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