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Is It a Requirement for Zoro to have Conqueror's Haki?


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Neither of those you mention in first place were one-shotted. Zoro uses multiple name techniques on most if them. Where you get one shot? Especially Kaku fight was hardly a one-shot fight XD!
They all were one-shots. As I said, there was some cat and mouse play, some foreplay to make the fight interesting instead of ending it in one swing but none of them has tanked more than 1 injury from Zoro.

Mr 1 was defeated from a single shot once Zoro became able to cut steel.
Kaku was defeated from a single shot once Zoro became able to cut through his tekkai.
Both opponents took no damage previously before that final one strike.

Seems like Zoro is giving Saitama a run for his money. 😏
 

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I doubt it's and if he does, that's too much for Zoro. I know things might be implying Beast Pirates' YC are stronger than Big Mom Pirates' which might be what Oda is doing since stronger enemies in each arc. Though the latter are no joke. If Luffy struggle to beat 2 of them barely, then Zoro won't last long and plus he can't actually hurt a women from all his fights with them, so handicap himself more. Plus even if he did beat Smoothie, it be extreme different for him and be no condition to face Orochi or King afterwards.

We know Zoro will face a high tier as his final fight, but doubt he can do what Luffy can when he can even get injury last chapter by a underling of Orochi's. Just saying on it.
Just a feeling I got and that's why Oda didn't do much with Smoothie because he was saving her for Zoro. You're forgetting soon as Zoro got a 3rd weapon he 1 shot him. Not to mention he only received that wound because a surprise attack from behide. I wouldn't call him fodder just because Zoro 1 shot him just like I don't think Pageone is fodder.
 

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They all were one-shots. As I said, there was some cat and mouse play, some foreplay to make the fight interesting instead of ending it in one swing but none of them has tanked more than 1 injury from Zoro.

Mr 1 was defeated from a single shot once Zoro became able to cut steel.
Kaku was defeated from a single shot once Zoro became able to cut through his tekkai.
Both opponents took no damage previously before that final one strike.

Seems like Zoro is giving Saitama a run for his money. 😏
Final attacks aren't one-shots. If he only used one name move like he did to defeat Hody (Before Steroids), then that's one-shot. Using multiple named attacks and his opponents don't go down from them until the last final move like Mr. 1 and Kaku weren't one-shots. I think your confusing between that with final hits.
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Just a feeling I got and that's why Oda didn't do much with Smoothie because he was saving her for Zoro. You're forgetting soon as Zoro got a 3rd weapon he 1 shot him. Not to mention he only received that wound because a surprise attack from behide. I wouldn't call him fodder just because Zoro 1 shot him just like I don't think Pageone is fodder.
Doesn't mean she is Zoro's opponent as seem like she might be more Jimbei when he comes actually. Zoro can't defeat two YC lvl characters in same arc. He isn't Luffy who barely survived his fights, so don't think that's his future fighting Smoothie especially we seen him unable to cut a woman, so that put him heavily handicapped on holding back. Doesn't matter if he has 2 or 3 swords, Smoothie isn't ideal for him to defeat especially going for her first before Orochi or King which be too much even for him if Orochi's underling got passed his defenses. Ehhh....Idk, him getting one-shot we usually see with regular Headliners getting defeated easily as Sanji and Luffy did that. If he goes down next chapter, kinda make him feel the same. Though if he can get back up and fight a bit more, we can put him above others. Page One isn't fodder, he was a threat since it took more than one hit and been established he is a Top 6 Headliner, but for this guy, it's hard to determine where he stand as nothing says he is up there with them as well.

Whether distracted or not, he have to be aware of his surroundings since when they at the festival, there be an all-out war and not many will valued one on one fighting, so Zoro gonna need to be observant on not getting damage on all angles. It's a war, so you gotta expect the unexpected, just saying.
 

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Final attacks aren't one-shots. If he only used one name move like he did to defeat Hody (Before Steroids), then that's one-shot. Using multiple named attacks and his opponents don't go down from them until the last final move like Mr. 1 and Kaku weren't one-shots. I think your confusing between that with final hits.
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Doesn't mean she is Zoro's opponent as seem like she might be more Jimbei when he comes actually. Zoro can't defeat two YC lvl characters in same arc. He isn't Luffy who barely survived his fights, so don't think that's his future fighting Smoothie especially we seen him unable to cut a woman, so that put him heavily handicapped on holding back. Doesn't matter if he has 2 or 3 swords, Smoothie isn't ideal for him to defeat especially going for her first before Orochi or King which be too much even for him if Orochi's underling got passed his defenses. Ehhh....Idk, him getting one-shot we usually see with regular Headliners getting defeated easily as Sanji and Luffy did that. If he goes down next chapter, kinda make him feel the same. Though if he can get back up and fight a bit more, we can put him above others. Page One isn't fodder, he was a threat since it took more than one hit and been established he is a Top 6 Headliner, but for this guy, it's hard to determine where he stand as nothing says he is up there with them as well.

Whether distracted or not, he have to be aware of his surroundings since when they at the festival, there be an all-out war and not many will valued one on one fighting, so Zoro gonna need to be observant on not getting damage on all angles. It's a war, so you gotta expect the unexpected, just saying.
Well Jinbie was in Totland so that was a perfect chance for him vs Smoothie but Oda didn't do it. He cut Monet and he greatest rival was a girl so if the woman strong enough he will imo. So usually 1 shots his opponents Daz comes to mind soon as could cut steel it took 1 hit to k.o him. Sorry but being handicapped, protecting a woman/child and being attacked from behide anyone would struggle. Even Whitebeard got hit by fodder during Marineford.
 

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Oh boi, Moe-kun is asking for a jab at Sanji. :toc

Final attacks aren't one-shots. If he only used one name move like he did to defeat Hody (Before Steroids), then that's one-shot. Using multiple named attacks and his opponents don't go down from them until the last final move like Mr. 1 and Kaku weren't one-shots. I think your confusing between that with final hits.
Not a single opponent has survived more than 1 damaging hit from Zoro. The hit that damaged them, took them out. On the other hand opponents can tank countless damaging hits from Luffy and Sanji while Zoro needs only 1 slice at their body. That's how dangerous One-Slice Zoro is.

Doesn't mean she is Zoro's opponent as seem like she might be more Jimbei when he comes actually. Zoro can't defeat two YC lvl characters in same arc. He isn't Luffy who barely survived his fights, so don't think that's his future fighting Smoothie especially we seen him unable to cut a woman, so that put him heavily handicapped on holding back. Doesn't matter if he has 2 or 3 swords, Smoothie isn't ideal for him to defeat especially going for her first before Orochi or King which be too much even for him if Orochi's underling got passed his defenses. Ehhh....Idk, him getting one-shot we usually see with regular Headliners getting defeated easily as Sanji and Luffy did that. If he goes down next chapter, kinda make him feel the same. Though if he can get back up and fight a bit more, we can put him above others. Page One isn't fodder, he was a threat since it took more than one hit and been established he is a Top 6 Headliner, but for this guy, it's hard to determine where he stand as nothing says he is up there with them as well.
Why is Smoothie not ideal for Zoro? He has no problem with hurting women, look back at Whiskey Peak, broke the head to that bodybuilder woman and sliced a nun and a child. "Have you seen a wild animal you were sure it wouldnt bite?" I havent. :cheez

Whether distracted or not, he have to be aware of his surroundings since when they at the festival, there be an all-out war and not many will valued one on one fighting, so Zoro gonna need to be observant on not getting damage on all angles. It's a war, so you gotta expect the unexpected, just saying.

Sanji should be aware of his surroundings and more observant so he doesnt eat dirt. His "amazing observation" didnt help him much here and his "super speed" couldn't outrun a genie. Overrated feats, just saying. :3c

Moral of the story, you are underestimating Zoro too much Moe-kun, he will rule this arc. You are in for a surprise.
 

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Oh boi, Moe-kun is asking for a jab at Sanji. :toc


Not a single opponent has survived more than 1 damaging hit from Zoro. The hit that damaged them, took them out. On the other hand opponents can tank countless damaging hits from Luffy and Sanji while Zoro needs only 1 slice at their body. That's how dangerous One-Slice Zoro is.


Why is Smoothie not ideal for Zoro? He has no problem with hurting women, look back at Whiskey Peak, broke the head to that bodybuilder woman and sliced a nun and a child. "Have you seen a wild animal you were sure it wouldnt bite?" I havent. :cheez



Sanji should be aware of his surroundings and more observant so he doesnt eat dirt. His "amazing observation" didnt help him much here and his "super speed" couldn't outrun a genie. Overrated feats, just saying. :3c

Moral of the story, you are underestimating Zoro too much Moe-kun, he will rule this arc. You are in for a surprise.
Still not one-shots. Final attacks after many attacks. You also know there are others who survive Zoro's cuts and still kept fighting. If they weren't down by first cut, then it's no one shot no matter what you say.

Yet so far he never once hit or cut a woman since then. The guy can't hurt women really and hold back with them more at end if the day. Trying to denied it is ignorant when Zoro have many chances for that. Thus until that change, Smoothie probably be too much for him cause of that trait of his. Don't see her as next big opponent or final one. Don't overhype him too much now.

Since your trying to change subject again, not gonna deal with you. Idk why you bringing Sanji in here when I was using him and Luffy as examples on gouging power. Can't be help if Zoro lacking in certain departments than them.
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Well Jinbie was in Totland so that was a perfect chance for him vs Smoothie but Oda didn't do it. He cut Monet and he greatest rival was a girl so if the woman strong enough he will imo. So usually 1 shots his opponents Daz comes to mind soon as could cut steel it took 1 hit to k.o him. Sorry but being handicapped, protecting a woman/child and being attacked from behide anyone would struggle. Even Whitebeard got hit by fodder during Marineford.
Jimbei coming to Wano though. What makes you think it won't happened again?

Can't compare Kuina and Monet to Smoothie with their power and different circumstances. Smoothie won't scared off when she knows she us more afraid of a pissed off Big Mom if she lose. That won't happen with Zoro if fight seriously.

I don't understand your bottom posts, sorry. What you said?

Don't compare Zoro to Whitebeard, now your overhyping him too much than he already is.
 

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Still not one-shots. Final attacks after many attacks. You also know there are others who survive Zoro's cuts and still kept fighting. If they weren't down by first cut, then it's no one shot no matter what you say.
He needed only 1 damaging hit. Prove me wrong. 😏
Who survived 1 damaging hit from Zoro and kept fighting? 😏
Zoro is basically a better version of Saitama. One-Slash Zoro. 😎
Yet so far he never once hit or cut a woman since then. The guy can't hurt women really and hold back with them more at end if the day. Trying to denied it is ignorant when Zoro have many chances for that. Thus until that change, Smoothie probably be too much for him cause of that trait of his. Don't see her as next big opponent or final one. Don't overhype him too much now.
He didnt want to cut naked men either, doesnt mean anything. He will cut naked men and women if they become his opponent. I just showed you that he has no trouble with hurting them, he chooses not to when it fits the story. Smoothie, even tho YC2, isnt hyped to be anything special so she is definitely not looking like something that is too much for One-Slash Zoro. Dont overhype Zoro in samurai arc? LoL, you are dreaming, the opposite will happen. The guy didnt even start fighting properly and he's already giving us rape face. 😏
Since your trying to change subject again, not gonna deal with you. Idk why you bringing Sanji in here when I was using him and Luffy as examples on gouging power. Can't be help if Zoro lacking in certain departments than them.
I know the truth hurts, when you try to shit on Zoro and downplay him I find the same scene with Sanji and then you are "not gonna deal with me". 😏
 

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I see what you did there.... :cheez

but one shot after 100 shots doesnt count. Nevertheless, i really like that title :one slash Zoro"
So do I.

It's a high exaggeration. Kaku took more than 1 of Zoro's attack. Zoro doesn't land many of his attacks squarely. They are even dodged or deflected or very rarely endured.

Stop mentioning Sanji in comparison of him eating dirt and Zoro getting stabbed..Shessh have we be not learned our lesson yet..

Zoro's attack are the most dangerous amongst the group. Yes many moves or final moves are 1 Hit kills.
 

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He needed only 1 damaging hit. Prove me wrong. 😏
Who survived 1 damaging hit from Zoro and kept fighting? 😏
Zoro is basically a better version of Saitama. One-Slash Zoro. 😎

He didnt want to cut naked men either, doesnt mean anything. He will cut naked men and women if they become his opponent. I just showed you that he has no trouble with hurting them, he chooses not to when it fits the story. Smoothie, even tho YC2, isnt hyped to be anything special so she is definitely not looking like something that is too much for One-Slash Zoro. Dont overhype Zoro in samurai arc? LoL, you are dreaming, the opposite will happen. The guy didnt even start fighting properly and he's already giving us rape face. 😏

I know the truth hurts, when you try to shit on Zoro and downplay him I find the same scene with Sanji and then you are "not gonna deal with me". 😏
Aren't you same person who denied my theories like stolen sword, Zoro getting injured AGAIN (Emphasizing), etc.. How's that working out as I got those right while you said they would never happen? Not saying you can't have your opinion, but thinking others can't be right hasn't been working for you.

Of course Zoro will do stuff in the arc, but not gonna overhype him he be at lvl of Luffy and Sanji who are only one truly doing work on their enemies and the plan while Zoro is on his misadventures ;).
 

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Aren't you same person who denied my theories like stolen sword, Zoro getting injured AGAIN (Emphasizing), etc.. How's that working out as I got those right while you said they would never happen? Not saying you can't have your opinion, but thinking others can't be right hasn't been working for you.

Of course Zoro will do stuff in the arc, but not gonna overhype him he be at lvl of Luffy and Sanji who are only one truly doing work on their enemies and the plan while Zoro is on his misadventures ;).
Are you the same person who responds with headcanon when he is out of options? Yep, still the same person. 😏
You predicted Zoro getting injured again? Wow, that's some Nostradamus shiet right there. People get injured in fights? I didnt know. 😂
Keep trying to trash Zoro but so far it's backfiring on you.
Yeah, you are right, Zoro is not on lvl of Luffy and Sanji. He is better. :3c
 

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Stop mentioning Sanji in comparison of him eating dirt and Zoro getting stabbed..Shessh have we be not learned our lesson yet..

Zoro's attack are the most dangerous amongst the group. Yes many moves or final moves are 1 Hit kills.
I dont know about that. Luffy's gear 4 will tank Zoro's attack anyday. I will even argue that Jinbei's attacks are way stronger than Zoro's at this point of time.
 

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Luffy's gear 4 will tank Zoro's attack anyday.
If Luffy takes the same hit like Kamazou just did... Luffy will walk that injury off like it's nothing? :blink
 

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If Luffy takes the same hit like Kamazou just did... Luffy will walk that injury off like it's nothing? :blink
Your really asking that after Luffy kept fighting Katakuri after he pierce through his his ribcage when they fought? That's not even the first time he got pierced through by an emery before and still kept moving and even fighting :-_- .
 

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Your really asking that after Luffy kept fighting Katakuri after he pierce through his his ribcage when they fought? That's not even the first time he got pierced through by an emery before and still kept moving and even fighting :-_- .
Yes. If you didnt notice Zoro sliced Hitokiri like a pizza(6 slices instead 8 tho) and that's more dangerous than Katakuri's spear which almost missed and hit a hip/kidney area. No one yet has sliced Luffy open like One-Slash Zoro can.
 

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Still not one-shots. Final attacks after many attacks. You also know there are others who survive Zoro's cuts and still kept fighting. If they weren't down by first cut, then it's no one shot no matter what you say.

Yet so far he never once hit or cut a woman since then. The guy can't hurt women really and hold back with them more at end if the day. Trying to denied it is ignorant when Zoro have many chances for that. Thus until that change, Smoothie probably be too much for him cause of that trait of his. Don't see her as next big opponent or final one. Don't overhype him too much now.

Since your trying to change subject again, not gonna deal with you. Idk why you bringing Sanji in here when I was using him and Luffy as examples on gouging power. Can't be help if Zoro lacking in certain departments than them.
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Jimbei coming to Wano though. What makes you think it won't happened again?

Can't compare Kuina and Monet to Smoothie with their power and different circumstances. Smoothie won't scared off when she knows she us more afraid of a pissed off Big Mom if she lose. That won't happen with Zoro if fight seriously.

I don't understand your bottom posts, sorry. What you said?

Don't compare Zoro to Whitebeard, now your overhyping him too much than he already is.
I don't think Jinbie is at that level. Zoro for the most part 1 hit k.o his opponents no matter how powerful they are. That's what I'm saying even Whitebeard can get hurt when caught off guard.
 

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I just had a very long discussion with a group of my friends about Zoro's "Black Blade" development.

Shusui is a Black blade (Cue the "No shit, sherlock!!!!") And it is EARNED by rigerous, extreme battle prowess thought the course of a swordsman's battles. (Now how to obtain a black black is still to be 100% confirmed but this is about what we know so far)

These blades are a much higher quality than none black blades and that IS a certainty.

Now, Zoro (while skilled) did nothing to earn such a weapon outside of earning "Sword God" Ryuma's respect.

Following that train of thought, Zoro's acquisition of that weapon is damn near equivalent than Nami getting her Climatact upgraded or Sanji using a Raid Suit. While it didnt give Zoro his skills, it did boost them!

The arguement would of course be " No, Zoro's skill is his alone" and that is true, but he didnt EARN Shusui like say Mihawk.

Stemming from this, I dont think Zoro is going to require Shunsui. I think he is going to acquire the cursed blade Luffy was using and both cursed blades he is going to somehow make them black blades in the future.

I think Shusui stays on Wano.
 

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Morgan defeated in one shot, Cabaji defeated in one shot, Hatchan defeated in one shot, Mr 5 defeated in one shot, Mr 1 defeated in one shot, Braham defeated in one shot, Ohm defeated in one shot, Kaku defeated in one shot, Ryuma defeated in one shot, Hyozou defeated in one shot, Monet defeated without even a single shot 😎 , Pica defeated in one shot and now Kamazou defeated in one shot.
No opponent has survived more than one shot from Zoro. There is cat and mouse play until he gets them but when he does they are out.
This is so wrong. Kaku defeated in one shot? Who are you trying to kid on that? That's like saying Luffy defeated Katakuri in one shot because his last attack was literally a single punch.
 

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This is so wrong. Kaku defeated in one shot? Who are you trying to kid on that? That's like saying Luffy defeated Katakuri in one shot because his last attack was literally a single punch.
Go back and re-read. Only one hit injured Kaku, the one which took him out. 😏
 

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The definition of one-shot is beating an opponent in one hit. Zoro usually was unable to do that, whether by choice (against Monet) or incapable of doing so (against Mr. 1 or Kaku), even if he won with just one attack. A perfect example of this is what Luffy did to Bellamy when he actually fought back after Bellamy stole the diamond-head's gold. Took him one attempt to bring down Bellamy. I can't remember when Zoro did that, other than the pacifista, though, but we know he could have done that to Monet and would have likely done that if Monet didn't go batshit crazy.
 
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