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T6H. Have to be strong if he same league as Drake. Don't think there is hierarchy in the members as no mention of leader or the strongest, so probably all same lvl.
Pekoms isn't on their lvl. We saw that even in Su-Long mode as Oven took him out easily. Page One is stronger than him especially being an Ancient Zoan more. Unless there is a group above T6H, the T6H are around Perosperos, Daifuku, Oven, etc. lvls which looks to be the case.
Every Yonko crew seems to have around 10 combatants which stand out.
It is the same with Strawhats.
It is the same with Blackbeard Pirates.
It is the same with RedHair Pirates.
It is the same with Beast Pirates as well as with Big Mom Pirates.
For Beast pirates we have Kaido himself, 3 Calamities and 6 FF= 10
For Big Mom pirates we have O-Lin, 4 commanders(Snack included), Perospero, Daifuku, Oven, Amande and Galette who stand out the most. There are several other notable BMP members like Pekoms, Tamago, Mont'd'or, Opera and his brothers, Cinamon, Raisin, Brulee and others but they all seem lower tier than the top 10 I mentioned first. Surely, the quality of BMP seems to be better because other crews have only fodder aside from main 10 members.
Omg i totally LOL'd at this. I totally agree with you guys. But I guess, P1 was strong because he was one of the 6FF. He could've probably been the weakest one among the 6FF. Can't believe people still think that Sanji defeated easily P1, not until ODA the author himself shows it, will it be confirmed. Now just because Sanji presumably defeated P1, does not mean he will go on to fight King, presumably the strongest YC in the Beasts Pirates. There is no HINT that shows Sanji vs. King, it is just in your imagination. Feel free to imagine Sanji vs. Kaido too. And who mentioned the bounties again? How Sanji's bounty is highe than Zolo's by 10 million Berries, means that he is definitely stronger than Zolo. Omg that was tooooo funny. Ya'll got jokes. While bounties do partially show off the person's strength, it is mostly danger to the WG. Dude, Oda just gave Sanji that bounty increase for comedy purposes LOL.
Omg i totally LOL'd at this. I totally agree with you guys. But I guess, P1 was strong because he was one of the 6FF. He could've probably been the weakest one among the 6FF. Can't believe people still think that Sanji defeated easily P1, not until ODA the author himself shows it, will it be confirmed. Now just because Sanji presumably defeated P1, does not mean he will go on to fight King, presumably the strongest YC in the Beasts Pirates. There is no HINT that shows Sanji vs. King, it is just in your imagination. Feel free to imagine Sanji vs. Kaido too. And who mentioned the bounties again? How Sanji's bounty is highe than Zolo's by 10 million Berries, means that he is definitely stronger than Zolo. Omg that was tooooo funny. Ya'll got jokes. While bounties do partially show off the person's strength, it is mostly danger to the WG. Dude, Oda just gave Sanji that bounty increase for comedy purposes LOL.
Dude, are you trolling? If your doing this cause your upset about ZoLo getting knock out easily in latest chapter, then please stop. Don't bring Sanji down just because your upset over it. So far he been doing work and fighting off big threats and please stop with the "We never saw conclusion, so we don't know if it happen" excuse as it's old by now especially why are Drake and Hawkins doing stuff without Page One who was with them early. He defeated easily and set out what he did. It make no sense why he be active especially haven't appear this long as he would be causing a huge stir like before if he was active as well try to get revenge on Sanji to boot, but instead it's Drake who wanted revenge as shown in past few chapters. Why you think he was that steam compare his debut appearance? It's because he find out what happened to PO and thus now want to fight Sanji.
Plus if Sanji did leave Page One active, he would have tell his friends by now about the issue instead of hiding it or not saying anything. That's out of character for him to keep quiet this long if he knows it. Your and the others excuses seems more desperate than facts, so please get over "Page One is still around" as if he was, Oda would have done something with him. Law and Sanji made it clear on requirements on facing him and since Sanji came back one peace and no evidence even slightest point to him being active, the deed been done. We don't need on-screen to see the final hit (Possible could have been that dive that smash into him too) to know results. Oda do off-screen fights and we get results later. We did already once we saw Drake and Hawkins at the bathhouse. They would have been with Page if he was active, since he wasn't there, it's proves more he is down especially Page told them to come to his location, so him not there shows he was beaten badly by Sanji.
This is more your emotions than facts now, dude. Just admit you hate Sanji and love ZoLo and call it a day as your not fooling anyone here on being 'unbiased' person. Also reasons why people see Sanji taking on a YC is because since he easily beaten T6H and no way it was said Page One was the 'weakest' at all especially he is a member of the group while Hawkins never got in, so that shows more of his power and there no hierarchy among members as it look to be as Page and Drake don't address each other in higher status shown. Many fans put out reasons on why Sanji will face King or Queen due to hints and similarities/traits share with them to fight them and since Luffy facing on an Yonko head-on, it make sense Sanji and ZoLo (Though Idk about ZoLo more after latest chapter) to be YC lvl more since they are closest to his lvl among Strawhats.
Bounty wasn't for comical, it was for real threat as Sanji has power to back up the threat, so Idk where you get that it's comical for Luffy and Sanji on their bounty increasions as they did work in WCI and face enemies. Thinking Sanji and others won't get stronger is more laughable and showing biased you just don't want him to succeed when you complain about him not doing more. He is doing it now, so don't be hypocritical over the situation as your making yourself look worse especially adding emotions to your post and denying the clear facts that's been happening. Take the advice and learn to be more on fair judgement please.
@KingMoe, your last reply just demonstrates who is clearly using emotions over facts, thinking of scenarios that haven't been shown in the manga and concluding that because of that Sanji will now face a YC. Tell me this, do you believe Sanji with RS can defeat Doflamingo. Doffy is stronger than 6 FF but weaker or the same as a YC. So do you seriously think Sanji or even ZoLo can defeat Doffy? Wait do not answer, I know you're going to say that Sanji can EASILY defeat Doffy. And the bounty was comical, i'm not downplaying Sanji's threat but what I meant was that Oda decided to put Sanji's bounty only 10mil more than ZoLo, this clearly shows that Oda wanted to show off the rivalry they both have as this gives Sanji a small edge over ZoLo. I can also use my imagination (like you do) and say that by the end of this arc, ZoLo's bounty will be higher than Sanji's. Shit maybe even Usopp's will be higher than Sanji's LOL but that's my imagination. See how dumb it sounds? Nobody here but you is saying that Sanji vs. King, just because Sanji may have taken down a 6 FF, does not mean he is going to fight a YC. It may or may not happen. The same could be said about you about your fanboyism on Sanji. Just stop sucking Sanji's curly eyebrow, and start using FACTS over emotions, please do us a favor. I am not downplaying ZoLo's fight to Kamazu, but in the whole series ZoLo has been shown to tank heavy hits that Sanji could not, and still be able to fight. This particular fight just threw that all away. Also, you may think that ZoLo has been fighting weak opponents in the NW, but you're wrong. Pika was definitely not weak, he also clashed with Fujitora, an admiral who took him down with some resistance. I want to see Sanji do that. Also, if Sanji "clearly" defeated P1 "easily" why did he not fight Hawkins or Drake? hey if he could take down one of the 6 FF, why not take down another and a headliner.
Oh and one more thing i know what you're doing it's kinda obvious, but I know you're trolling, so troll at this:
ZoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLo
Realistically speaking, everyone knows that a demon in human form(Zoro) is much stronger than cook with Okama blood(Sanji).
Also, we all know, Sanji's bounty is only higher for comical reasons and thanks to his daddy, as well as participating in Yonko arc where Zoro didnt.
@KingMoe, your last reply just demonstrates who is clearly using emotions over facts, thinking of scenarios that haven't been shown in the manga and concluding that because of that Sanji will now face a YC. Tell me this, do you believe Sanji with RS can defeat Doflamingo. Doffy is stronger than 6 FF but weaker or the same as a YC. So do you seriously think Sanji or even ZoLo can defeat Doffy? Wait do not answer, I know you're going to say that Sanji can EASILY defeat Doffy. And the bounty was comical, i'm not downplaying Sanji's threat but what I meant was that Oda decided to put Sanji's bounty only 10mil more than ZoLo, this clearly shows that Oda wanted to show off the rivalry they both have as this gives Sanji a small edge over ZoLo. I can also use my imagination (like you do) and say that by the end of this arc, ZoLo's bounty will be higher than Sanji's. Shit maybe even Usopp's will be higher than Sanji's LOL but that's my imagination. See how dumb it sounds? Nobody here but you is saying that Sanji vs. King, just because Sanji may have taken down a 6 FF, does not mean he is going to fight a YC. It may or may not happen. The same could be said about you about your fanboyism on Sanji. Just stop sucking Sanji's curly eyebrow, and start using FACTS over emotions, please do us a favor. I am not downplaying ZoLo's fight to Kamazu, but in the whole series ZoLo has been shown to tank heavy hits that Sanji could not, and still be able to fight. This particular fight just threw that all away. Also, you may think that ZoLo has been fighting weak opponents in the NW, but you're wrong. Pika was definitely not weak, he also clashed with Fujitora, an admiral who took him down with some resistance. I want to see Sanji do that. Also, if Sanji "clearly" defeated P1 "easily" why did he not fight Hawkins or Drake? hey if he could take down one of the 6 FF, why not take down another and a headliner.
Oh and one more thing i know what you're doing it's kinda obvious, but I know you're trolling, so troll at this:
ZoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLoLo
Lol, that's your comeback? Dude, your not making yourself look seriously at all. You seem more upset over my talk than such. You haven't even counter my points at all and just adding more questions than answers (Not that I expect you to answer them with how you acting). Luffy and the others are gonna take on a Yonko head-on. Saying they aren't ready and won't gets stronger is stupid to say as they gets stronger each arc. You can't compare past actions to how they are and think they won't get stronger While Sanji did lose to Doffy in Dressrosa, your saying he and others will be same lvl as always when that's not true at all. After beating T6H and only challenge he can get now is from YC, then possible he is now stronger than Doffy at this point.
Of course Oda did that with the bounty for their rivalry, but that doesn't mean Sanji doesn't have the strength to back it up. You trying to deny that after he defeated someone high-tier is making you look bad than factual as you gotta learn to accept what happens as Oda is making it apparent on him facing someone more challenging if he easily defeated T6H out of it. It's not fanboyism, it's facts and your just denying the truth as you can't admit it at all. Please stop with your ZoLo's fanboyism as again he not having a good showing lately and accept that Sanji is showing more showing and help to others right now.
Pica was weak outside of his DF and plus damaging stone has been a feat for others since pre-timeskip, so not that challenging at all. If he was made of something harder like steel again or diamond, then we can talk more, but still nothing of the sort. Also please don't put Fujitora in this as we will known he wasn't trying with him as after this chapter, ZoLo is not fit to even fight him or challenging match which was apparent since he went harder on Sabo and Luffy compare to ZoLo who easily slammed to the ground.
Also the reason he didn't face Hawkins and Drake is because Nami and others there were in a state of 'undress' and could be liabilities in his fight and plus he needed to get information about Bepo and others to Law before making a move against them. He is smart fighter; he thinks things through before he does it, he isn't like Luffy or ZoLo who the latter got hurt badly going in without thinking and fainted afterwards. You have to be smart and be onguard on environment instead thinking of powering and pushing through as it ends badly for you. Law made it clear everyone shouldn't get hurt before final battle and look what happened to ZoLo.
Take what you want, but there is no denying Sanji is above ZoLo right now on performance and how things are heading, but that doesn't mean I don't see much on ZoLo as he will do things, but don't think many see him fighting one of the YC and possible more Orochi on how his route is heading for final fight. Just saying to you, no need to be defensive as just telling the truth.
Not interested in discussing Sanji vs Zoro for the 100th time but I want to adress the sanji part of the debate.
The problems I have with Sanji facing King, the strongest commander of Kaido are:
When would Sanji have time to train enough to go from losing to DD executives and DD, to beating the kind of guys who can tango with admirals and even damage them as seen in marineford?
Oda introduces power ups via "training arcs" and "after fighting strong opponents" like vs Jabra or vs Mr 2. Here we have neither, unless you consider that Raid suit can make Sanji go from top executive level+ to YC1 which would be ridiculous.
Again don't underestimate Top yonko commanders, they are at the top of the food chain.If Sanji can defeat King one on one in this arc, then it would mean that the 3rd or 4th(Jimbe>Sanji when he joins) underling of Luffy can beat the 2nd strongest of a yonko crew this would kill all the tension as the heroes would be way too powerful for the upcoming fights to be any interesting unless Oda decides to nerf the strawhats.
Yeah according to the chapter, it seems Zoro fainted the moment Gyukimaru turned his back to walk away (danger gone/about to) so it's possible he'd have prevented himself from going unconscious if the guy still meant harm. But it also seemed like Zoro wanted to chase after him before blacking out.
From what we've seen, both opponents Kamazo and Gyukimaru seem stronger than Pica. Zoro acknowledged Kamazo for his strength (virtually all Wano Samurai should be impressively strong) which isn't surprising but downplayed Pica.
He also seemed very capable of taking down Gyukimaru until hero duties made him suspend their duel which Kamazo took advantage of expectedly.
From what I could deduce, he prioritised Kamazo over Gyukimaru for obvious reasons and yes strength is one of them expecting Gyukimaru to understand. Guess he wasn't too cool with being sidelined until the Kamazo defeat.
Another Zoro vs Gyukimaru doesn't seem to interest me anymore since the outcome is presumably known except for the highly informative small talk they keep having while dueling. Probably the reason Zoro didn't take him out early.
Chasing isn't as necessary as making sure there's no danger though, and if Zoro wanted to chase, then no one was in danger. Plus, could he have fought Gyukimaru in his condition?
Well, Pica kept going from stone to stone and was trying to avoid fighting Zoro head-to-head, while Kamazo was fighting Zoro face-to-face. Pica was probably a tougher opponent even though he's weaker. I think Zoro was more than capable of taking down Gyukimaru but didn't want to end it early or kill Gyukimaru by going too hard, as well as the talk.
I assume the 500 Devil Fruit users puts the Beast Pirates on a completely different level. Maybe before Kaido's partnership with Doflamingo started, Big Mom had the "strongest family", but that shouldn't be the case anymore.
Not interested in discussing Sanji vs Zoro for the 100th time but I want to adress the sanji part of the debate.
The problems I have with Sanji facing King, the strongest commander of Kaido are:
When would Sanji have time to train enough to go from losing to DD executives and DD, to beating the kind of guys who can tango with admirals and even damage them as seen in marineford?
Oda introduces power ups via "training arcs" and "after fighting strong opponents" like vs Jabra or vs Mr 2. Here we have neither, unless you consider that Raid suit can make Sanji go from top executive level+ to YC1 which would be ridiculous.
Again don't underestimate Top yonko commanders, they are at the top of the food chain.If Sanji can defeat King one on one in this arc, then it would mean that the 3rd or 4th(Jimbe>Sanji when he joins) underling of Luffy can beat the 2nd strongest of a yonko crew this would kill all the tension as the heroes would be way too powerful for the upcoming fights to be any interesting unless Oda decides to nerf the strawhats.
1. Off-screen just like the others. You know Oda does this before with them training off-screen then showing it on-screen. If you think everyone still on same lvl from past arcs then that's kinda dumb to think, no offense. Also who? No one ever defeated him except for Doffy himself, but hold his own with Vergo with no conclusion, so Idk where you get the idea he can't train or get stronger later on.
2. RS and also we never once seen Sanji at his 100% as he still have more to show. He didn't even defeat PO with DJ, Haki, or named techniques for one, so he has a lot more to show and more stuff he never reveal before. We can get flashback on off-screen stuff until then so to help with them and Idk what you mean 'training arcs' as there wasn't there between Water 7 and Enies Lobby for them to best them later on. They simply train off-screen to get stronger, so same could happen here too.
3. Don't think anyone is. How is it insult for Sanji to face them? They can be still be strong and beaten by someone and well Luffy is going to face Kaido one on one no matter what, so that means someone have to take on YCs which showing to be Sanji as one of them for it. He easily defeated T6H (Stronger than Jimbei until Jimbei beat someone credible and no pushing a Yonko means nothing in her more slimmer and 'weaker' state and she came back from it like nothing. I am waiting for him to defeat credible opponent in NW please), so only challenge is a YC for him to get something and hints are pointing to him facing either King or Queen more and it wouldn't ruin tension nor heroes are too powerful about it either.
Just like Hawkins is a mere Headliner, Drake may actually be much stronger than the other Flying Six.
I assume the 500 Devil Fruit users puts the Beast Pirates on a completely different level. Maybe before Kaido's partnership with Doflamingo started, Big Mom had the "strongest family", but that shouldn't be the case anymore.
They have all been jokes up to this point. Nothing backs up the claim that they are on a "completely different level" and that is as factual as one can be.
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Sanji vs King is as much a none starter as Zoro vs King
Neither have proven themselves capable of standing up to a YC, but that is usually the case.
They wont reach YC level until they grow DURING the battle themselves.
Luffy wasnt Katakuri "level" when their fight started. It wasnt until Katakuri HIMSELF acknowledged Luffy as his equal did we as readers begin to acknowledge Luffy as YC "Tier"
So now you are the guy who saw and knows everything that happened in a supposedly off-screened fight.
Wow you even know what and what techniques Sanji did and didn't use. I think I'm going to give it to you - the title of best Future Sight user in the world (both within and outside One Piece of course).
And I was thinking... What if Sanji never had a 100% cos we've seen him use the 100% unless you think he had something outside DJ before Oda decided to give him the RS.
I mean, as a major character, you don't get a power up until you've used up your current arsenal or your most powerful attacks isn't cutting it out anymore against increasingly stronger enemies.
Come to think of it, Sanji's DJ was so weak it could barely damage an intentionally Hakiless and exhausted Luffy. Had to take multiple hits to cause Luffy damage and even then it wasn't enough to out him out for good.
RS Sanji is a whole new prospect given the RS is a very potent battle suit that gives it's user variations of abilities from near indestructible defence to much powerful offensive, and useful special abilities.
It took me to go through the WCI arc all over again before truly admitting that Pre RS Sanji is kinda weak by New World standards (no bias over here its fact).
Also you keep attacking Zoro for not using Haki to protect himself from getting cuts and bruises in his duels but the same argument could be made with Sanji who got shot during the escape by fodders and would've been riddled with bullets had his Siblings not come to the rescue. Luckily for Sanji, he need not worry about that anymore as RS will cover that weakness for him.
TBH, I don't think we'll see Sanji battling without RS from here on out cos he's not powerful enough to do much (and I'm talking about defeating strong combatants) without it. Now he has a 100% we can't wait to see... Not before.
See what I'm talking about Moe? Bravo! You've seen the future yet again.
We don't know if Luffy's going to take on Kaido one on one, I wouldn't go on saying it won't happen for sure but it's leaning towards a group effort right from day one. Kidd already stated he'd bring Kaido down (even though he's usually all talk). So is Luffy, and I'm betting Law.
Neither one of them is capable of doing it alone going by their current feats so I feel it'll most likely be more than one vs Kaido.
Feel free to fantasise though... It might as well come true.
They have all been jokes up to this point. Nothing backs up the claim that they are on a "completely different level" and that is as factual as one can be.
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Sanji vs King is as much a none starter as Zoro vs King
Neither have proven themselves capable of standing up to a YC, but that is usually the case.
They wont reach YC level until they grow DURING the battle themselves.
Luffy wasnt Katakuri "level" when their fight started. It wasnt until Katakuri HIMSELF acknowledged Luffy as his equal did we as readers begin to acknowledge Luffy as YC "Tier"
I agree with your first point there as all of Kaido's 500 army DF users (presumably all smile users) are nothing much compared with a mid/low-lvl combatant on Big Mom's side and she had a lot of those (mid/low-lvl combatants).
But where I differ is in your acclaim that "It wasnt until Katakuri HIMSELF acknowledged Luffy as his equal did we as readers begin to acknowledge Luffy as YC "Tier""
Luffy was already at YC Tier since defeating Doflamingo and Cracker and at that point in the story, most reader's were expecting him to take down Big Mom next even after Katakuri and Smoothie were introduced at the tea party.
Readers don't get that feeling that a guy is ready to take on a Yonko except that he has equalled or surpassed the level before that (YC Tier).
Many (including myself) were disappointed afterwards when it turned out he was no match for Big Mom and even more so when he was struggling in the battle with Dogtooth. He was already YC tier before that point but turned out some YCs are vastly superior to others especially a Right Hand Man.
He only became Katakuri-lvl which is still YC tier, albeit higher after getting the win against Katakuri according to some readers – not all, which is understandable.
Luffy already became YC tier just not at the very top of that tier even before clashing with Katakuri. After the battle, he's shot up the rank and only a select few within the YC tier should be able to challenge him at this point of the story.
@King Moe so you think that Sanji was training offscreen while being in the predicament that he was in WCI?
At best he trained a few days before going to WCI and a few days going to wano.
In my opinion this makes no sense at all for him to suddenly be at strongest yonko commander level.
In my book page one albeit savage, is weaker than DD and nowhere close to YC. Don't fool thyself.
Not sure why you keep bringing him up as if beating him would mean being YC level. He was just a way to show what RS could do, Oda didn't even bother showing the full fight or confirm if he was dead or alive...
About Vergo, no matter what excuses you come up with, when a character admits that "Had the fight continued it would have been bad" its the same as Zoro saying he was too naive, they know they fucked up.
@Lexusflame The difference between Luffy and Sanji is that Luffy was able to beat doffy in the previous arc and did go through an 11 hours fight with cracker whom he defeated. So when he gets into a 1v1 against katakuri we have less trouble believing that he has chances to win the fight.
@Lexusflame The difference between Luffy and Sanji is that Luffy was able to beat doffy in the previous arc and did go through an 11 hours fight with cracker whom he defeated. So when he gets into a 1v1 against katakuri we have less trouble believing that he has chances to win the fight.
That has nothing do do with what I just said. I made no comparison to Sanji because you cannot compare Sanji to Luffy or Zoro for that matter.
It would be a better arguement to say that Zoro and Sanji have the POTENTIAL to reach YC level during the course of Wano than to outright say they are YC PRESENTLY
My arguement is can be set up easily.
Sanji with the Raid Suit has been shown(not shown? Lol) to be able to easily deal with a top 6 Headliner in Kaido's Army. Beyond Headliners, there are only Jack, Queen, King. If the arguement is made that Sanji is the 3 strongest of the SH Crew (and if Oda is structuring the arc like Enis Lobby) then it stands to reason that Sanji will fight the 3rd strongest of Kaido's Crew.
Luffy = Kaido
Zoro = King
Sanji = Queen
My arguement for Zoro to fight with King is the same as my arguement for Sanji/Queen
Fuck I hate these Zoro/Sanji arguements. They are so toxic and have successfully ruined this forum
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There are so many holes in the arguement that Sanji/Zoro fight Queen/King to begin with idk what to think of matchups this arc
That has nothing do do with what I just said. I made no comparison to Sanji because you cannot compare Sanji to Luffy or Zoro for that matter.
It would be a better arguement to say that Zoro and Sanji have the POTENTIAL to reach YC level during the course of Wano than to outright say they are YC PRESENTLY
My arguement is can be set up easily.
Sanji with the Raid Suit has been shown(not shown? Lol) to be able to easily deal with a top 6 Headliner in Kaido's Army. Beyond Headliners, there are only Jack, Queen, King. If the arguement is made that Sanji is the 3 strongest of the SH Crew (and if Oda is structuring the arc like Enis Lobby) then it stands to reason that Sanji will fight the 3rd strongest of Kaido's Crew.
Luffy = Kaido
Zoro = King
Sanji = Queen
My arguement for Zoro to fight with King is the same as my arguement for Sanji/Queen
Fuck I hate these Zoro/Sanji arguements. They are so toxic and have successfully ruined this forum
Idk Zoro still fight King after last chapter, not because how he got knock out also, but since he is with Hiyori and defeated a underling of Orochi, he be after them more thus the final fight could be Zoro vs Orochi probably.
