One Piece Power Level Discussion Thread

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As of now these topics are shelved due to repetitiveness or until the manga can present us with material to further discussions:

1. Shanks v Mihawk
2. Hand to hand fighters > Swordsmen
3. Zoro > Luffy
4. Zoro v Sanji
5. Is Smoker a top 30 character?
6. Mihawk's rank within the story
7. Law having CoC currently.
8. Katakuri > Kaido/Luffy/Etc.

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[AINSOOALGOWN_SAMA]

Pretty sure he is as it mention him having the highest bounty of the Yonko now after Whitebeard passed away.

Where are you getting this? I haven't seen any mention of it in the Manga or Anime.

Yonko being ridiculously powerful is nothing new. But how their strength is showcased in the Manga is what I'm looking forward to.
Big Mom hasn't been handled too well IMO.
Kaido? Still too early to judge.
BB and Shanks better live up to their hype once we get to that point of the story is all I'm hoping for.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 6, 2019, Original Post Date: Apr 6, 2019 ---

You all keep missing that purposely and it's getting annoying not on me, but others who are taking against you guys on your thoughts

So now you can read people's emotions as well?
Your CoO is best in class.

 

[XXGenesis]

THat's debatable, given how you constantly bring up Zoro whenever Sanji gets criticized. But then again, majority of members in this thread have been heavily biased, and in an annoying way. Usually ends up in another character being brought up and then another war.


Anyhoo, back to Shanks. I hope we get to see him fight and see just how powerful he is.

Exactly. Bias is natural. Being Annoyingly bias, is different, it's unbearable after several post of response and other members chimming.

If I can remember the root of the conversation, and thread topic. Sanji W RS, has risen to that benchmark of being under a YC similar to Oven,Daifuku,Perospero tiers. Where I believe most SuperNovas Captain fall. Takeaway his suit I believe Sanji then falls to the bottom of the barrel of a Tier thst consist of ppl like Tamago, Pedro & Pekoms

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 6, 2019, Original Post Date: Apr 6, 2019 ---

Saying Sanji is 'weak' without his RS or is 'helpless' is a lying nature as he isn't like that either you didn't mean it or you meant which can lead to either lying or just ignorance as you guys are acting out as if RS make Sanji unable to handle challenges without it when it been stated he using it for other purposes and plus will have Usopp and Franky modify it so he can fight better as his own, not as Germa. You all keep missing that purposely and it's getting annoying not on me, but others who are taking against you guys on your thoughts. Also as Eiyuu said, Zoro and his fans are zealous when it comes to Sanji, so Idk what you meant there as your sounding hypocritical than factual as you can't admit on your side.

Plus Sanji is in the lead for awhile especially after this chapter with Zoro losing out in one hit as despite Sanji's struggles, we never seen him like that even badly hurt, so Idk where you think Zoro 'is in the lead' when the guys lost out two a fodder-like enemy and Sanji defeating an credible opponent being a T6H. You can try to denied it, but right now Sanji doing most work in Wano.

Nah, I write with facts and logic like the others. So far you guys are just writing just to bash and divert attention away from Zoro who originally we were discussing only before you guys try to force it as a Sanji thing when so far his performance been more stellar than his quite lately. I have prove my statements, but it seem your in denial and now making excuses not to even try to counter my statements at al these posts honestly.

Nah, never enforce my biased as again Idk where Oda will go and thus I stay neutral about it, never I said 100% it happened unlike you guys promoting and saying 'This will be Zoro's arc to shine and he be unstoppable' which soon fall flat after the recent chapters as you can't force your ideals of the story as if you know what Oda is gonna do. He doesn't play favorites and now your lashing out onto others just cause they call you out and criticizing Zoro. We not Overhyping Sanji, his performance speak for himself this arc, Zoro on the other hand, you guys are trying to overhype badly and make excuses why he lost when he admits it's his fault in same chapter. As fans you have to accept faults of your character whether you like them or not, but don't make excuses or 'reasons' on subject like this if Oda didn't hint or said otherwise about the fault that happened.

Right now you been on the side of Zoro fans, so Idk where your saying your 'neutral' about this as you don't show it. Please don't lie and just admit your a Zoro fan and be done with that as your hurting your stance more saying your more 'unbiased' when your not. Nah, he isn't weak without it as shown lately. He isn't like Zoro without his swords as he been trained to fight more physically, so he isn't dependent on it for power or fighting. It already been shown, he been using it for disguise and espionage tactics, not for needing power. It's not gonna stop him from training on his own without it nor that he won't get power ups on his own body. You guys are overthinking again on Oda's direction when it's clear it's not like that as been mention through Sanji as his character. Just telling you the truth, nothing biased about it, but even as others tell you, you still want ot ignore and choose your own 'image' on how things are regardless. Please learn to not get carried away in your own thoughts like you know Oda's every step he is heading.

So plz list of the truths of Sanji thst many are lying abiut. What is this truth that you shine light on?

You are picking and choosing facets of ppls arguments and not addressing the context of them.

Sanji is weak in comparison to the current threats. W/O his Raid Suit. Only credible win was due to his equipment boost.

You deny a lot and havent seen to find common ground with anyone of opposing ideas. Which is why debating with you is fruitless and non productive, at least for me. documented for bring as neutral or fair as possible. My post in Zoro's thread shows that..Sanji's critism is warranted, honest and it's fan frustration or having their expectations not met. You've started something so unhealthy that spiraled into somewhat if a split fandom. Fanboying pushback to harsh critisim , sparked stronger feelings of resentment towards the character. Justification of faults gave way to more ridicule and harsher analysis. Your post start if ok, but turn into feelings and headcannon or just a stretch of your personal bias. Idc abiut personal bias, until you make it a point of argument to say Sanji is leading ahead of Zoro.lol

Sanji will & can train to become stronger. He hasn't gotten that, he was given a tool for his recent power up. .

That's the same as Usopp, or Nami getting new tools/weapons to use..which in turn raises their threat of to others..but all in they are still easy to deal with

 

[Hannibal Psyche]

Hm, I actually reread chapter 931 and there was this line by Sanji that invisibility could be used to help his friends. I missed that part completely so I made wrong conclusions. I apologize.

But whether the fight concluded there and then I'm still not convinced. If that final attack was in fact final then there would be no reason for the rest of the group to leave Sanji behind. If the fight have ended there and then Sanji could catch up with Law and everyone in a matter of seconds, but given that they're saying: "why do we leave Sanji behind? Because he told us to." suggests that the fight went on.

Anyhow, it's irrelevant to the initial argument.

I apologise too. Not intending to upset you or anyone. Hopefully we can put aside everything and restart on a positive slate.

Fair, you don't think it was concluded.

Assuming the fight concluded, there would be reason to leave since it'd have concluded. There'd be no reason for them to stay since they'd either know Sanji is on his way. Either way they trusted that Sanji would do as he said which was to end the fight really quickly.

Assuming the fight ended there, Sanji would easily catch up with Law and the group easily. He could just fly to them.

Also, if we go to what he said exactly in the panel, he told them to go ahead because he'd defeat Page One in no time and wouldn't get hurt. They trusted him to do as he promised.

Another thing to take into consideration is this fight happened on day 4 which was during chapter 932. Day 5 is what we're currently on. Why would Oda show a relatively unimportant fight that happened a day ago when he's now advancing to different plots?

If there was really more than what we saw when Law and co. ran off, wouldn't it make more sense to simply have drawn more of the fight (If there really was more to it) rather than progress to Day 5?

What purpose would it serve since we already know Page One was taken care of? It wouldn't advance the story. It makes sense that, that was where the fight ended and Oda advanced to other sub=plots that needed to be transitioned to in order to further the arc progress.

Either way, not intending to change your mind. If there's really more to the fight, I guess we'll see in future chapters.

Again, apologies.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 6, 2019, Original Post Date: Apr 6, 2019 ---

Funny given how Zoro himself does the same.

It's scenes like this that make me wonder why Oda does this to Sanji, here they look like they'd be equal to the other. Their portrayal from pre-skip up until this point looked equal to me at least.

Things started getting weird at Punk Hazard and then Dressrosa, the discrepancies just became pretty noticeable. I will still give Oda the benefit of the doubt regarding Sanji, will see how Sanji does in his next fight, but after Sanji said he's putting pride aside, I feel he'll be using the suit a lot.

 

[King Moe]

Where are you getting this? I haven't seen any mention of it in the Manga or Anime.

Yonko being ridiculously powerful is nothing new. But how their strength is showcased in the Manga is what I'm looking forward to.
Big Mom hasn't been handled too well IMO.
Kaido? Still too early to judge.
BB and Shanks better live up to their hype once we get to that point of the story is all I'm hoping for.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 6, 2019, Original Post Date: Apr 6, 2019 ---

So now you can read people's emotions as well?
Your CoO is best in class.

So far all Yonkos are proving to why they got their bounties. Shanks while we haven't seen a full fight from him, has shown he is quite dangerous as a Haki user, so no doubt he can back up what yes said especially his feats that were already mention off-screen. Blackbeard included as well with his heavy potential too. Idk why you think BM and Kaido aren't worthy of their titles as so far they are proving it still.

Also what you mean? It was stated in the databook Shanks has the highest bounty of current Yonkos. Where you been reading?

Yep, I can read. What's your excuse? Can't tell if your trying read our side though.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 6, 2019 ---

Exactly. Bias is natural. Being Annoyingly bias, is different, it's unbearable after several post of response and other members chimming.

If I can remember the root of the conversation, and thread topic. Sanji W RS, has risen to that benchmark of being under a YC similar to Oven,Daifuku,Perospero tiers. Where I believe most SuperNovas Captain fall. Takeaway his suit I believe Sanji then falls to the bottom of the barrel of a Tier thst consist of ppl like Tamago, Pedro & Pekoms

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 6, 2019, Original Post Date: Apr 6, 2019 ---

So plz list of the truths of Sanji thst many are lying abiut. What is this truth that you shine light on?

You are picking and choosing facets of ppls arguments and not addressing the context of them.

Sanji is weak in comparison to the current threats. W/O his Raid Suit. Only credible win was due to his equipment boost.

You deny a lot and havent seen to find common ground with anyone of opposing ideas. Which is why debating with you is fruitless and non productive, at least for me. documented for bring as neutral or fair as possible. My post in Zoro's thread shows that..Sanji's critism is warranted, honest and it's fan frustration or having their expectations not met. You've started something so unhealthy that spiraled into somewhat if a split fandom. Fanboying pushback to harsh critisim , sparked stronger feelings of resentment towards the character. Justification of faults gave way to more ridicule and harsher analysis. Your post start if ok, but turn into feelings and headcannon or just a stretch of your personal bias. Idc abiut personal bias, until you make it a point of argument to say Sanji is leading ahead of Zoro.lol

Sanji will & can train to become stronger. He hasn't gotten that, he was given a tool for his recent power up. .

That's the same as Usopp, or Nami getting new tools/weapons to use..which in turn raises their threat of to others..but all in they are still easy to deal with

What many? Few people on here? Lol, now your counting yourself as the majority now is really sad XD. Well for starters saying Sanji is 'weak' without his RS is a lie, saying he forgives Germa now is a lie, saying he stop training out of RS is a lie again, etc.. You guys live on Sanji bashing, so not gonna waste my breath on listing every statement you have against Sanji, so think your post here prove my point and your attitude as of late.

Nah, that be you guys as you have yet to counter my talk and instead keep bringing things back in circle to try to prove a point when your wrong. You act like no one is disagree with you when actuality me, Pea, M3J, Lexus, and Eiyuu have spoken against you, yet you ignored and think of yourself as always right even when Oda showcase it in the seires how it going.

I have found common ground with those that can give me a true point and I can agree with like Hokageji who is more neutral and have I have spoke to in respecting his opinion and knows how he feels unlike you guys who want to force your way to be right with disregarding your debater on what he has to said even evidence behind them. I am fine with critic on Sanji, but it has to make sense, not flatout biased by you all like you know where he going put Sanji in the story and be proven wrong and can't admit your side. Please take your own advice Genesis as your acting more on emotions here than me as not even taking it serious to heart as you are as you can't stop accusing and not even trying to counter my posts at all. I will respect your opinon more if you start acting like how you preach especially lately with Zoro's performance, but yet you refused to critic him when originally this talk was solely about him.

What evidence do you have Sanji will stop training or without RS is can't do anything? That's again your personal opinion, not the situation's canon. Your not even trying to read context as of late on how Sanji been using the RS and just going off by feelings than legit facts about it. The difference with Sanji and the others that without his RS, he can still take care of himself. Never it was stated he needs it for power. Already been said he use it for disguise and espionage for the crew, not for his main strength about it which your not even trying to understand about that at all. Plus even with RS, it takes one skill to master it, it's not something anyone can use and know how to do it right even if you give it to random person. It's not simply to use as shown when he was testing with PO as he didn't know how he active the invisibility cloak or using those boosters on his legs, he fight majority by his style as Black Leg, not Germa fighting as you can see clear difference how he fights and his family fights.

 

[AINSOOALGOWN_SAMA]

Idk why you think BM and Kaido aren't worthy of their titles as so far they are proving it still.

Where are you inferring this from?
I stated that I don't like how Big Mom is been handled by Oda and I've seen not enough of Kaido to come to any conclusion.
Why must you misinterpret/misunderstand every single time?
Why?

Also what you mean? It was stated in the databook Shanks has the highest bounty of current Yonkos. Where you been reading?

I haven't read this yet so not gonna argue. It'd help though if you can show me some evidence of it.

 

[King Moe]

Where are you inferring this from?
I stated that I don't like how Big Mom is been handled by Oda and I've seen not enough of Kaido to come to any conclusion.
Why must you misinterpret/misunderstand every single time?
Why?



I haven't read this yet so not gonna argue. It'd help though if you can show me some evidence of it.

It make sense though as Big Mom have mental issues since she was a child and how she got to that state make sense since DF user are always still weak to seawater in the end. Kaido already proven it as he is shown to easily one-shot Luffy that no character has done and destroy landscape by a simple blast like Oden's Castle. Sure we haven't seen more, but his power is truly Yonko already from what we seen. Why do you have to have a issue when your question? I don't even have emotions in my post when I told you that .

It's in the Threads as someone posted it came from there. You never seen it yet?

 

[Deleted member 169696]

Also, if we go to what he said exactly in the panel, he told them to go ahead because he'd defeat Page One in no time and wouldn't get hurt. They trusted him to do as he promised.

Another thing to take into consideration is this fight happened on day 4 which was during chapter 932. Day 5 is what we're currently on. Why would Oda show a relatively unimportant fight that happened a day ago when he's now advancing to different plots?

What I was arguing about initially is that another 5-10 attacks wouldn't prolong the fight that severely. More like another 3-5 minutes. Also even if we attribute this win to the RS it's still kinda hard to believe that two basic attacks could KO one of the stronger fighters of the Beast Pirates. A couple more stronger moves would make more sense imo. Like DJ, haki or both or something entirely new. Maybe Sanji was able to utilize certain qualities of the suit to create new techniques. And as for the reasons to off panel the supposed continuation of the fight — next time Sanji fights someone Oda could totally pull a flashback in order to explain the new moves.

If there's nothing more to the fight then it feels like a missed opportunity. The only thing Sanji learned to utilize in this fight is invisibility. If that's all there is to this power-up then it would feel kinda underwhelming. I hope Sanji doesn't end up like that and uses more of his intrinsic abilities.

 

[Hannibal Psyche]

If there's nothing more to the fight then it feels like a missed opportunity.

It wouldn't really be. This is just the preparation to the actual battle. This fight in particular is not that important, it's essentially filler. The real battle will come when the war start which is where we'll see everything everyone is capable of.

It'd only be a missed opportunity to not showcase everything in the real battle.

next time Sanji fights someone Oda could totally pull a flashback in order to explain the new moves.

It would be pointless to flashback a new attack when you could simply just draw it. It'd be a waste of panels.

As Law explained, the core quality of that suit is the invisibility it provides, that's why it is so difficult to fight against as he said.

Even if Sanji landed a few more attacks, it'd have been because he was utilising the qualities of the suit to end the fight quickly. Invisibility makes ending a fight easy especially if finishing blows can literally be landed at will which is literally the case with such an ability.

 

[AINSOOALGOWN_SAMA]

Sure we haven't seen more, but his power is truly Yonko already from what we seen.

Am I questioning any Yonko's power? No
I'm voicing my opinion of how dissatisfied I am with one Yonko's portrayal (Big Mom), haven't seen much of the other (Kaido), and hoping the final two are portrayed well and you are already dribbling off.

It's in the Threads as someone posted it came from there. You never seen it yet?

No I haven't. I can be lazy sometimes.
Why not help a buddy out and post it.

 

[nik87]

No I haven't. I can be lazy sometimes.
Why not help a buddy out and post it.

He wont post it of course because such information doesnt exist, not like he usually ever posts any proof to back his claims up...
It's not even in databooks, it's just some magazine comment from editors about Yonko in general, which Moe-kun somehow twisted around to a "fact saying Shanks has highest bounty"...

Spoiler: shanks databook

Btw, asking some proof from Moe-kun? We should know better.

 

[AINSOOALGOWN_SAMA]

Btw, asking some proof from Moe-kun? We should know better.

IKR?..

It's funny the data book said they didn't know he could use Observation Haki.
I figured he had it – way back since the chapter where he clashed with Whitebeard. Whitebeard angrily threw a gigantic bowl of Sake at him whilst he was enjoying his own drink with his eyes closed and sitting comfortably, he dodged it like it was nothing without changing his sitting position.
That scene both in Manga and Anime confirmed it for me.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 7, 2019, Original Post Date: Apr 7, 2019 ---

It's not even in databooks

I figured it was his head cannon/fantasy logic.
Wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt since I've never actually read one myself.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 7, 2019 ---

Guys... What's your take on MVP Brook. I know he usually delivers and all. A decent swordsman who keeps getting better with his DF usage.
But since we are in New World, I was hoping he gets Haki (at least CoA). Would really cement his status as "Invaluable" and give him a chance of getting in the SH crew top fighters (if he isn't one already).

 

[nik87]

Guys... What's your take on MVP Brook. I know he usually delivers and all. A decent swordsman who keeps getting better with his DF usage.
But since we are in New World, I was hoping he gets Haki (at least CoA). Would really cement his status as "Invaluable".

Great utility coming from him. Second to none when it comes to potential about spying and gathering intel.
Physically as a combatant to me he looks fragile so he should not be paired with some powerhouses but rather opponents with tricky DF abilities. I wanna see more of his freezing style swordsmanship in combination with his soul powers.

 

[King Moe]

Am I questioning any Yonko's power? No
I'm voicing my opinion of how dissatisfied I am with one Yonko's portrayal (Big Mom), haven't seen much of the other (Kaido), and hoping the final two are portrayed well and you are already dribbling off.




No I haven't. I can be lazy sometimes.
Why not help a buddy out and post it.

Their portrayal been fine so far as I think your overacting a bit with BM when she was shown already to have mental problems and forgetting stuff prior. It's not out of nowhere if it was foreshadowed it can mess with her. Kaido is already showing more on his portrayal and we gonna see a lot more as time goes on. You need patience before judging, come on now.

Sure thing, here it is:

https://orojackson.com/threads/highest-bounty-for-yonko.60103/

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 7, 2019, Original Post Date: Apr 7, 2019 ---

He wont post it of course because such information doesnt exist, not like he usually ever posts any proof to back his claims up...
It's not even in databooks, it's just some magazine comment from editors about Yonko in general, which Moe-kun somehow twisted around to a "fact saying Shanks has highest bounty"...

Spoiler: shanks databook

Btw, asking some proof from Moe-kun? We should know better.

Isn't that databook shown before the information I link to you guys? Lol, I can post information, but I think it's better for guys like you to search for your information than get handouts, I mean you been with OP for years, right? You should know better and seen EVERYTHING (Emphasizing) since you are talking about how you know what Oda is doing, right ?

Next time, learn to do more research than only this one as this wasn't the information I was talking about .

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 7, 2019 ---

IKR?..

It's funny the data book said they didn't know he could use Observation Haki.
I figured he had it – way back since the chapter where he clashed with Whitebeard. Whitebeard angrily threw a gigantic bowl of Sake at him whilst he was enjoying his own drink with his eyes closed and sitting comfortably, he dodged it like it was nothing without changing his sitting position.
That scene both in Manga and Anime confirmed it for me.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 7, 2019, Original Post Date: Apr 7, 2019 ---

I figured it was his head cannon/fantasy logic.
Wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt since I've never actually read one myself.

--- Double Post Merged, Apr 7, 2019 ---

Guys... What's your take on MVP Brook. I know he usually delivers and all. A decent swordsman who keeps getting better with his DF usage.
But since we are in New World, I was hoping he gets Haki (at least CoA). Would really cement his status as "Invaluable" and give him a chance of getting in the SH crew top fighters (if he isn't one already).

Actually my COO been on point as I mention on forums about what Sanji's and Zoro's performance were gonna be and many my theories are coming true. Sorry if your jealous about that and need to work on your COO harder as well get your headcannon out of your mind thinking you know everything. The difference between us I don't brag and claim I know EVERYTHING (Emphasizing), I still don't believe some of my theories will come true and keeping neutral stance, but will stand by those that are heavily hinted to happen as how Oda is heading with his 'routes' within his plot.

So much for keeping the peace, but here you guys bringing back egos 24/7 and getting on others nerves. Geez, how are you guys that you can't learn to stop admit your faults when your wrong. Must me the joys of being in your own 'world', huh XD?

After this chapter, I can say Brook>Zoro as at least he can take a hit and not faint as shown with Big Mom fight as while he lost, you didn't catch him knockout unlike a certain other 'swordsman' .

 

[nik87]

Next time, learn to do more research than only this one as this wasn't the information I was talking about .

I have done my research Moe-kun. And you giving us handouts? Nice joke.

He wont post it of course because such information doesnt exist, not like he usually ever posts any proof to back his claims up...
It's not even in databooks, it's just some magazine comment from editors about Yonko in general, which Moe-kun somehow twisted around to a "fact saying Shanks has highest bounty"...

Spoiler: shanks databook

Btw, asking some proof from Moe-kun? We should know better.

 

[King Moe]

I have done my research Moe-kun. And you giving us handouts? Nice joke.

Nah, unlike yours lol.

It said to be released from Shueshia. You know? The company Oda works for. If they released something like that, I doubt Oda would be ok by it. He is reclusive man on not giving out information unless he feels alright about it.

Though hey, go ahead ignore company he works for and in contacts with him. Your the guy who knows 'EVERY MOVE' Oda is about which is why yyou predicted stolen swords, Zoro getting lost, him struggling, him fainting, etc.-....Oh wait....You didn't. Your actually the guy who spouted Zoro will be 'unstoppable' in his arc from your headcannon only to be proven wrong.

Its fine man, not all of us can predict things on what will happen. Have some humility like Zoro and admit you were naive just like him .

 

[nik87]

It said to be released from Shueshia. You know? The company Oda works for. If they released something like that, I doubt Oda would be ok by it. He is reclusive man on not giving out information unless he feels alright about it.

I am sure Oda wants to save such reveals for manga itself than doing it in a magazine.

Though hey, go ahead ignore company he works for and in contacts with him.

Go ahead, take the bait.

Your the guy who knows 'EVERY MOVE'

Funny how highly you think of yourself for guessing some things. You know, almost every forum member guessed some things? Do you see anyone else bragging about it in every post like you do?
Zoro getting lost? Wow, no one except you could have ever guessed that.
Zoro struggling in his fights? Wow, no one except you could have ever guessed that.
You didnt guess fainting.

Basically, you didnt guess anything except sword being stolen again which is irrelevant to the story overall. People have been guessing Zoro's swords long before you made your guess and that development still has to reach it's conclusion.
When you guess some important things, like what Zoro's final 3 swords will be, then you can brag.

Your actually the guy who spouted Zoro will be 'unstoppable' in his arc from your headcannon only to be proven wrong.

Exactly and he will be unstoppable. Who has stopped Zoro?

Have some humility like Zoro and admit you were naive just like him

Have some honesty, like Sanji and admit that you think Zoro is a hero.

 

[King Moe]

I am sure Oda wants to save such reveals for manga itself than doing it in a magazine.

Go ahead, take the bait.

Funny how highly you think of yourself for guessing some things. You know, almost every forum member guessed some things? Do you see anyone else bragging about it in every post like you do?
Zoro getting lost? Wow, no one except you could have ever guessed that.
Zoro struggling in his fights? Wow, no one except you could have ever guessed that.
You didnt guess fainting.

Basically, you didnt guess anything except sword being stolen again which is irrelevant to the story overall. People have been guessing Zoro's swords long before you made your guess and that development still has to reach it's conclusion.
When you guess some important things, like what Zoro's final 3 swords will be, then you can brag.


Exactly and he will be unstoppable. Who has stopped Zoro?


Have some honesty, like Sanji and admit that you think Zoro is a hero.

Since you didn't counter my post, I take it as a win since you usually troll when defeated .

 

[llaubacher]

@King Moe Moe-kun, have you seen this?


Source is here:

https://thelibraryofohara.com/2019/...F5cm8tqZ0yGeXbbupccwwbOvp1QA6zjLT7_5TEjCEVod0

Just found it last week when I was checking some information. It's been out there for nearly 2 weeks already. I know Oda once said Zoro and Sanji are rivals but this looks like the confirmation that Zoro's stronger as a fighter while Sanji is his rival though he's bit weaker as his position in the crew is cook first, combatant second.

 

[M3J]

You do realize we bring up Zoro only because they bring him to the side in most of their posts as Genesis just did early. We aren't biased, we just speaking the truth on Sanji's how he is compare to Zoro. Your debating with them so you can already see how they been speaking on their end too, M3J.

Pretty sure he is as it mention him having the highest bounty of the Yonko now after Whitebeard passed away.

Still don't need to bring up Zoro or take the bait, especially when nik makes it obvious he's trolling.

Where was that mentioned? I don't remember the manga stating which Emperor had the highest bounty..

I think we'll get to see each Yonko in action before the story concludes. We are already in the Yonko Saga and have seen 2 of the current 4 in action.
I'm more interested in the final 2 TBH.

I hope so. Shanks has so much hype that he needs to deliver well, and I wanna see if Blackbeard has grown. He was so arrogant that he got hit so easily so many times. Plus, he should be used to using both fruits, so that'll be a new fighting style.

Kaidou's also interesting, but that's because of his dragon beam attack.

Guys... What's your take on MVP Brook. I know he usually delivers and all. A decent swordsman who keeps getting better with his DF usage.
But since we are in New World, I was hoping he gets Haki (at least CoA). Would really cement his status as "Invaluable" and give him a chance of getting in the SH crew top fighters (if he isn't one already).

COnfusing because he's a very capable swordsman but scares too easily. He could probably take on most opponents, and especially with his powers like freezing stuff or putting enemies to sleep. I think Brook will also acquire haki at one point, perhaps here if the fights are way too challenging, but isn't CoA something that can only be taught?

 

[nik87]

I wonder if Sanji losing a leg is a possibility that we can expect in future?

It has kinda been hinted at it. Oda never did anything with his bones breaking against Vergo so that could have been the first hint.
The man that Sanji considers his father, Zeff, has also lost his leg and Sanji is basically what red foot Zeff once was, a kicker pirate.

All Calamities in Wano are swordsmen, as well as all samurai, even the Supernova's that work on Kaido's side are swordsmen. Even Apoo who isnt a swordsman has, what seems op cutting ability. If Sanji ends up fighting some of them, could he lose a leg? If so, how would he overcome such handicap?
A peg leg which he can coat in CoA? Cybernetic leg from a joint effort of Franky and Vegapunk? It gets re-attached by Law or with Leo's ability?

The opponents in Wano are without a doubt top tier so, at the end of the arc, we could expect injuries more severe than ever before.